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Kerbal Instrument Panel: In-Desk Apollo Themed Hardware Controller
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I'm liking it... Still debating whether or not to include the diagonal line in the Atmosphere scale. I have two saved revisions with and without the diagonal line. The onscreen Atmosphere meter color gradient scale ratios are 1:3:3:2. Mine is 1:4:4:3, to fit the tick marks on my scale. It's close enough. I really wanted numeric values other than percentages for at least ONE meter. Sadly, this day has already mostly gone by, so I probably won't have time to install these today. I need to be able to use the dremel to take down high spots where I trimmed the center ridge on the factory backlit scales, and to drill the holes for the mounting screws (the scales are inserted, and the holes drilled for the polycarbonate and the housing, all at the same time, so when the screws are tightened, the tabs on the end of the polycarbonate pieces pinch down the ends of the scales against the housing of the meter. Hmm... Decisions, decisions... I certainly like the numeric orders of magnitude scale better than the old percent scale. Hmm... I might also need to slide the word "Atmosphere" slightly to the left. I think I somehow left it slightly off centered. I've also decided it's going to be absolutely necessary to cut out a gap in the leftmost meter to make room for the steel beam that supports the horizontal control panel. I absolutely need as much room as I can muster, if I want to fit both the radar altimeter tape meter and the ∆V carriage meter into this thing. The DSKY's added width was not something I counted on, and I really have to conserve space... That steel beam takes about 0.65 inches (16 mm) away from my overall width, but honestly, I think I NEED every spare bit!- 236 replies
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Kerbal Instrument Panel: In-Desk Apollo Themed Hardware Controller
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So, looks like the onscreen meter can be divvied up into 9 equally divisible sections (there are more subticks, but they are not relevant)... I also found the info I need. KSP considers the atmosphere at atmospheric height to be .000001 of 1 ASL atmosphere... That means 18 ticks are being used to display 7 orders of magnitude (1, 0.1, 0.01, 1m, 0.1m, 10µ, and 1µ Atm)... Of course the game would handle atmosphere on 7 orders of magnitude. That's a nice, divisible number! Oh wait... let's divide it by NINE on screen! Welp... Now I'll have to have my physical analog meter use different tick divisions than the onscreen meter. I have definitely decided to use that particular scale though. I like the numeric values for the application. It just means with 7 ticks, there's only 6 primary divisions (and of course 13 total sub ticks / 12 subdivisions). KSP's atmosphere scale's color segments are not equally spaced either, so with different sub ticks, I'll be forced to alter the ratios of the color transitions to other places on the meter to make it match up with he ticks correlating to the order of magnitude changes. Not thrilled about that. I was really hoping to have one to one correlation with what was on screen, but it's just not possible putting numeric ticks that correspond to real numbers. Now, the only question that remains, is do I try to make a smooth gradient, to hide the mismatch, or do I retain 4 color divisions, and try to reshuffle them to match up with particular ticks on the scale?- 236 replies
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Trying to correlate the scale used on screen for the KSP Atmosphere meter, and the actual numeric scale displayed on the meter... The onscreen meter shows 9 equally divisible sections (the number of sub ticks is kinda irrelevant)... to display 7 orders of magnitude (1 Atmosphere ASL through 1µ Atm)... Seriously... Of course the game would handle atmosphere on 7 orders of magnitude. That's a nice, divisible number! Oh... We're gonna divide it by NINE on screen! Thanks absolutely logical atmosphere display, which can never, ever correlate between numeric value and the tick marks shown on screen. Now I will have to have my physical analog meter use different tick divisions than the onscreen meter. Ugh... Whyyyyyy!
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And now you're on topic... cause that is most certainly both a noteworthy complaint, and a great reason to practice your "groaning in disgust" at terrible, terrible pun skills.
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Yeah, I have tried quotes and stuff. I know all those tricks. I even have gone into the advanced search... Google is just oblivious to the fact that tape meters are a thing, outside of my incessant searches and link backs through the forum.
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You realize those are almost exclusively my doing? I counted 41 images that I posted, or videos that I posted on that page, before Google drifts off into showing jewelry. Freakin' Google, man... Literally links right back to this very forum! After enough times dropping images I've posted here into the Google images search by URL function... Well, at least Google is learning something... And yeah... Much of what Isn't my own postings, is just pictures of the shuttle, or mission reports, or wide shots of the cockpit. Very little on there is actually about tape meters. The irony, I I link to several prominent space websites to get the few pictures and info I have. Google doesn't even bother to link directly... It goes through the Kerbal forums first... To get to pictures hot linked from a dedicated space tech website...
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Yeah, it took even me a while to stumble upon those tape meters... I have a pair of test instruments with tape meters in them (but they are not numbered the way I'd like, so I need to print new tapes). Had I known, I could have been working on them for far longer than I have. As for the Epson thing... I think that's just the disk drive. No idea who made the computer. The person who owns that machine had to repair the computer without a replacement for the bad chip. They had to reverse engineer the way the keyboard worked, and recreate the chip using an Arduino! That Apple II clone's keyboard controller has more processing power than the entire computer! As for my complaint... I actually had some good news! The person that made the KSP serial plugin was able to enlighten me on how the plugin handles atmospheric density... It's a raw value in units of kg/m^3. That's fine... Except now I need to look up the ASL atmospheric density for every planet or moon with an atmosphere, program it into my controller, and have it calculate the ratio so it can output an analog value to my Atmospheric Density meter. It's good information... It just means a load of extra work for me, and specifically int he area I'm weak in... programming. I can do this hardware stuff practically blindfolded... Programming... I really have little to no grasp on C. It just isn't sticking to my grey matter. Just a reminder that I'm gonna someday finish building this sweet Kerbal instrument panel... and then realize I need to learn how to program it before I can even use the thing!
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A photo of a Space shuttle tape meter (from the pre-glass cockpit Space Shuttle). Tape meters are literal readouts, as in, meters, gauges, readouts, etc, not as in a unit of distance. Rather than a pointer moving over a fixed scale, you had a fixed pointer, with a tape (either a continuous loop, or on two reels) with a scale much larger than the display window. By scrolling the tape scale passed the window and fixed pointer, you could indicate a much larger range of values than a fixed meter, I'm building one for my KSP instrument panel's radar altimeter. The tape meter shown below is actually 4 meters: The left most meter is a standard analog meter, with a moving pointer. The three meters tot he right though, are tape meters. The orange pointer is fixed, and the scale moves behind it. Epson AP-200 Apple II Disk Drive... It's amazing how HARD Google works to give you ANYTHING but that device as a search result. *last message was worded poorly... There was NO info on the Apple II clone shown... It's not Apple, but even rips off the Open Apple and Closed Apple keys.
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When you need to search for some info, but there is too much "search noise" to get an even remotely usable search result. An example? Searching for tape meters... Google and the like all assume you're talking about tape measures. Adding parameters... +Space shuttle + NASA -measure... It BARELY helps... It's such a chore to find stuff like that. Same for some obscure old computer equipment... Especially if the company is still around... Good luck finding ANY info on old Epson Apple II clone hardware and disk drives. Nothing but modern printers, page after page of search results. Lately, I've been trying to figure out some details about how KSP's atmospheric density display under the altimeter works..., and how the KSP serial IO plugins transmit the data over USB. My searches keep getting derailed, cause the Wiki doesn't quite have the info formatted in a way that really applies to the way the plugin is using it, and the forum search is... Well... Pthhht! I may just have to skim 78 pages of a forum thread, and hope the info is somewhere in there...
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public float Density; //13 air density (presumably kg/m^3, 1.225 at sea level) I was curious how exactly is Atmospheric Density is handled by this plugin. Does the plugin transmit the actual numeric value of the Atmospheric density as a real unit (such as the listed kg/m^3), or as a percentage of a body's maximum value (percentage of kg/m^3 ASL)? I've been trying to read through the thread, and I honestly don't know. What I want to do is display Atmospheric Density as an output on an analog meter. Does the value sent by the plug in function as a percent of 1 atmosphere (and thus be an output compatible with an analog meter), or do I need to keep constants representing each body and perform a calculation on the Arduino end to get the Atmospheric density in a 0-255 scale?
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Kerbal Instrument Panel: In-Desk Apollo Themed Hardware Controller
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I finally tweaked all the meter scales to be what I need them to be. In the end, i decided to put intake air on the main panel, simply cause It ultimately saves me a meter. I was gonna have Max Temp % be it's own meter, but decided I wanted to ditch the meter with the broken movement (my repair is not the best). I also wanted the normal single meter to be my atmospheric density meter, since I had more room for the graphic. I decided to give the diagonal line a try, but I have a copy without that line as well. Also, for Max Temp, I decided to double up on the red LED section. I wanted it to be a little more prominent. Depending on how the colors print out, I may tweak the atmosphere meter a bit I need to see how they illuminate. As for other progress, I cut the final modifications into the last analog meter that needed modding to prep it for a backlight. I only need to cut one more bit of polycarbonate, and bend it to the correct shape, for that meter, and trim the center ridge of the last unmodded factory backlit meter, and they'll all be ready for new scales! Hoping to be finished with that by the end of Monday. It would be pretty incredible to have all the analog meters officially done! One more thing... I know the atmosphere scale doesn't actually show percentage of actual atmosphere... I think it's more of an exponential or logarithmic scale or something. Google is REALLY failing at finding up to date details of how this actually works, and parts of the Kerbal wiki seem to be rather lackluster... If I could change the scale to something more like: .0001 .001 .01 .1 1 ATM |__,__|__,__|__,__|__,__| Something like that'd be my preferred scale. I'm not sure what my low cutoff should be though. I'm also not sure how the game differentiates atmosphere scaling between planets... I have to assume the scale always displays max density at whatever one local atmosphere of pressure at "sea" level is? Like if I land at the lowest surface altitude at Duna... The meter should be at max density, right? I mean, that makes sense. Man, it's been so long since I actually played... It's kinda crazy! Anyway, I'm open to suggestions and facts... Percent atmosphere kinda... It just doesn't feel right. Every other meter is Percent fuel, or percent electric charge, or even percent max temperature... Even the Air intake is a percentage... It'd be nice to have ONE thing read an actual value... Also debating if I ought to have the colored part of the atmosphere meter fill in the entire white space of the meter, or if I should leave some white space bordering it. I'll have to see how it looks, I guess. I'm slightly reluctant to print the scales on the Nekoosa paper till I have the Atmosphere scale finalized. I only have a limited number of sheets of the stuff. Anyone know what KSP considers to be the atmospheric density cutoff before space as a percentage of 1 Atmosphere? Is that percentage consistent between bodies? I guess the last thing to ask, is what is the actual units output by the plug-in? Is it unique to each planetary body with an atmosphere, or is it a fixed % of 1 atmosphere scale? I'd like the meter to appropriately show density, but I'm not quite sure how to show it. === Anyway, a quick update... I got the last polycarbonate panels cut and heat formed to the correct shape, and I even have printer sized sheets of the Nekoosa paper cut! I'll probably have all the scales installed once I have the Atmosphere scale's design 100% finalized! === Another quick update... Found out KSP Serial IO sends the raw value of atmospheric density in units of kg/m^3. That's fine, but it adds complexity to the programing. I'll need to have the controller know what the ASL atmospheric density for every single body is, so I can calculate the percentage of one local atmosphere ASL to output as an analog value for the meter. This includes all the OPM planets and moons that have atmospheres. If anything is ever changed int he stock game, or the mod worlds... I'll have to edit the program's constants and update it... That's gonna be fun... Still trying to find if atmosphere has a universal cutoff point at the transition from atmosphere to space. Also need to find out if the atmosphere gauge on the KSP UI is linear or logarithmic or something.- 236 replies
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Great news! The LEDs showed up today (pays to have Digikey located in the same state where I live), and I was able to mill the long yellow LEDs to the correct size. Tested them all to make sure I didn't damage any of them, and super glued them to the red LEDs that just arrived. The Green LED needs no mods, since I chose to make the green marker a single long marker. Now I need to find my epoxy, so I can bond them to the analog meters. I'm actually very tempted to cut slots into the polycarbonate to reduce the gap between the scale and the LED, to reduce light spill. The angle was intentional, to help accommodate the arc of the analog meter. Not a huge thing, but I did it just cause I could. I'm hoping to have a fully completed analog meter, with full backlighting finished by tomorrow!- 236 replies
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richfiles replied to richfiles's topic in KSP Fan Works
Minor update... I decided to order the Red and Green LED bars. It's too much hassle to cut the wide LED bars into narrow ones, and those are pretty expensive anyway, for LEDs at least. I will still cut down the Yellow bars. I have narrow long ones, which will be super easy to mod into short ones. I can just mill the unnecessary portion off. The cut edge of the Yellow bar LED that will leave the translucent epoxy fill exposed won't matter, cause it'll be glued up against the opaque housing of the Red LED. I kinda wanna try to work on the analog meters this weekend. I think I have a full three day weekend free. It'd be nice to try to work on the linear portion of the carriage meter as well, but I'm not sure if I'll actually get to it. Just hoping Digikey gets my package to me by Saturday.- 236 replies
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Don't let the person who labeled this program any Mars orbiters...
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I had an interesting thought... Maybe something for future versions of OPM, when the existing planets and moons are fully fleshed out... With recent news about the dwarf planet Haumea having been observed to likely have rings, I'm thinking, maybe a future version of OPM ought to give some love to the deeper Kuiper belt dwarf planets. Everyone loves little old Pluto, but I think the scientific community intentionally segregating these smaller dwarf planets from the total planet count actually inhibits the public's interest in learning about them. Pluto is the figurative lead singer of a Kuiper belt band, and the poor guitarist, drummer, and keyboardist just ain't getting as much of the spotlight. Anyway, I think Eris, Makemake, and Haumea deserve some love too, and maybe, in a distant future, they could get stockalike worlds in OPM, much as how Pluto has Plock. It's quite obvious that reaching those worlds would take an incredible degree of effort, and that challenge would be amazing. If I'm not mistaken, Eris from Neptune is at least as far as Neptune from the Sun! They're far out, man! Given the newfound complexity and uniqueness that we've been discovering about these Kuiper belt worlds... Well, I think they could serve as awesome destinations in KSP! Haumea is apparently egg shaped, with the long side being about the same length as Pluto's diameter. There's also it's newly discovered rings, and it has at least two tiny moons. Eris is around the same size as Pluto, but is denser, so would likely be a very rocky world. With one of the highest albedos measured in the Kuiper belt, it's very likely covered with very recently formed (geologically speaking) ice. It has at least one moon, and coming up with a name for the stockalikes could be fun, seeing as it and it's one known moon have both had both an informal name, and an official name. Makemake is about 2/3 pluto's size, and is believed to be covered in multiple types of ice... Methane, ethane, and nitrogen, at least. It has at least one moon as well, and while it doesn't have an official name, outside of a technical label, Makemake's moon does have the nickname "MK 2"... That's begging to be named after a KSP command module! Anyway, I know there are other interesting objects out there, like Sedna, Quaoar, Orcus, Salacia, Varuna, Varda, Ixion... I mean, to be fair, yeah, there's like, A LOT of them. Honestly though, honoring the biggest ones would be amazing. That's why I really would love to see Plock get three Kuiper belt neighbors, someday. Maybe think about it for the future. There's no rush, as OPM is already incredible, but I'll gladly accept the theory of an ever expanding KSP universe! Maybe someday?
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Oh man, that's terrible news! I hope it ultimately does heal. I suppose, if you find a buyer, hopefully they can do something with it. Be sure to pass along the forum info, so if they are so inclined, they can start a continuation thread. Still, So sad to hear, both of your recovery and of the inability to continue... Godspeed, on that recovery... 7
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My mother had an appointment, about two weeks ago. With her bad ankle and other poor joints, going out anytime is always an ordeal. She was tired, worn out, hungry, and in pain when she got home. Then the doorbell rings... Not sure if it was my brother's kids stopping by, she answers the door without looking, only to discover a Kirby Vacuum Salesman at her door... Not sure if you've ever had the misfortune of having one show up at your door, but thanks to a few policies I'll address later, a great number of them are dirty cockroaches that you just can't get rid of! The general way these things work, is you get a person with a strongly overwhelming personality to blast the unassuming consumerist victim (LOL... I misspelled consumerist and the auto-derp suggested communism instead! )... Okay, derailed... back on track... They blast the unassuming victim (who is not communist, usually ) with an overwhelmingly pushy sales pitch that includes a "demonstration"... Mind you, this demonstration is designed to last HOURS... They claim that there is a no obligation, no money down guarantee to try, with a three day cancelation window. at two hours in, my mother decided it would be easier to cancel the purchase the next day, than endure another moment of the sales pitch... You have to understand, these salesmen are SO BAD that people routinely report this as a scam, and Kirby's own website has a page dedicated to "explain why this isn't actually a scam"... Right... That instills confidence... Those people with the experience so bad, that they say "they felt like they almost needed to call the police to get these people to leave their homes"... That's NORMAL!?!?!? That's crazy, is what it is... My mother can't afford a $2000+ vacuum cleaner, yet she willingly believed making the purchase and canceling it the next day would be the "easy" route... So, the next day, she calls to cancel the order, and they let her know someone will come to pick up the vacuum. They show up, and despite her not touching it from how the salesman left it, they had to "fully test it" to verify no damage had occurred... Which was actually a lead in to a SECOND SALES PITCH DEMONSTRATION to try to get her to not cancel the thing she had called them to take away... I can't even... Anyway, a couple days later, she did need to vacuum, so she went to get her old vacuum... which was not there... They "took" her old vacuum, since she "no longer needed it"! It's been nearly two weeks, and she's been demanding it back. Twice they told her someone would return it the next day, and twice, she's been lied too. Monday,t why didn't even answer her calls... Calls that I instructed her on. I told my mother that she needs to call these people and make it clear that two weeks has been ample time to return HER MISSING PROPERTY. As a matter of fact, the "trade in" option was never marked on the contract, thus they had NO RIGHT to take the old vacuum in the first place. Furthermore, if the old vacuum is not returned within 48 hours, it would be reported to the police as a theft, and all paperwork they left behind for the "sale" would be submitted to the police as identifying evidence as to who stole the property. I need to actually call her back, to see if she ever got through to them.
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Kerbal Instrument Panel: In-Desk Apollo Themed Hardware Controller
richfiles replied to richfiles's topic in KSP Fan Works
Oh dear... It's been a full month, and I've literally done nothing. I have realized I can cheat on ordering the yellow narrow bar LEDs... I can just cut them in half. They contain 4 separate LED dies with 8 pins to power them. I can literally split them in the middle. It might be necessary to sacrifice one side to have clearance to cut one to shape, but that is no big deal. I have several dozen of them. I'll still need to order the red and green ones, unless I cut down a few of my larger ones of those too. Not sure if I have enough of those though. Didn't order very many of the wide reds in particular. If I mount them carefully, I could probably mill out opposing corners, and get two red narrow/short LED bars from one wide/long LED bar. Honestly... It'll be easier to just order the correct size. With how busy work has been, I probably will get them before my next build session anyway. I decided to grab another electric typewriter I found at a local thrift shop. It has a long linear rack gear, and the stepper has a pinion that rolls along the length of that rack gear. I think It'll make an exceptionally quick mechanism, which will be nice for those very short burn maneuvers. The typewriter mechanism I already had is built with a pulley and cable mechanism, and I realized it might actually be well suited to linking up with my throttle lever, so i can implement automatic mechanically responding full/kill throttle buttons on the controller. Meanwhile... My Polish stepper motor has started collecting dust. That's $24 I'll never see again...- 236 replies
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So a real complaint now... There's a movie coming out tomorrow, and I'm trying g to get advance tickets, cause so far, only 4 seats are reserved, and my favorite seat of the place is open... For now... ALL NIGHT... Their credit card processing has been down, and is still down. Worse, Is I'm about to go to work, where I KNOW I'm gonna get slammed with about 66% more work, on top of a normal (busy) day of work... I'll be lucky to get out of work 2 hours before it actually starts. At that point, i'm just rushing down in hopes of even GETTING a seat that's decent. If the credit card processing were working, I could just be done with it in 10 seconds! He totally wants me to find a way to produce a "close enough" rendition of "The Horn" from Fury Road... I told him it was a composite of several sounds, done in software... I don't know how many horns that would even take, much less the legality of it!
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Hehe... After my brother finished his tours in Iraq, I guess he decided he missed his old wheels too, so he bought himself a "deuce and a half"... He took two cabs and welded them together to form an extended cab. Gotta have a place for the child seats to go! He has since decided this wasn't "big enough", and has traded it in for a five ton. On both vehicles, he removed the third axle and replaced it with an additional disc brake on the drive shaft (yeah, this originally had SIX wheels) and shortened the box, to reduce weight, and make it a little more suitable as a "grocery getter". It (conveniently) has a winch powerful enough to rip small trees out of the ground, and has an infrared illumination system that, with a monitor accessory that he is totally looking for, would in theory, make it totally possible to drive in complete darkness... I mean, if you wanted to do that... It's probably a bit overkill, but hey! With the US government's proclivity to spend big, then scrap, these things come up for surprisingly low costs at government surplus auctions. It's certainly cheaper than building up some late 1960's Mopar muscle! I've never driven it either!
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Oh, that's all... I swear, some people think it's trivially easy to just create stuff.
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Yeah, I did indeed get one! It's a pretty cool little gadget! Don't pay stupid ebay prices for it though. Nintendo ramped up production, compared the NES classic last year. I wish they had done the controller ports differently. It has a stupid flap covering them... It looks pretty stupid. If I had designed it, I'd have had the ports in a recess in the bottom, with the cords coming out underneath the front edge of the unit. Instead, you have to pop off a flap on the front, to reveal the real connector ports underneath. That's my only gripe... What matters is the games! I started playing a little Earthbound. Then I tried to play the first level of Star Fox (which is required to unlock Star Fox 2)... I died the first try... He moves in with shady people, then is surprised when shady people try to extort money from him. He moves out, then eventually repeats, cause he never learns. Trust me... You're not missing out on anything.
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This week, I got SLAMMED at work... One person called in sick on Tuesday... Another called in stupid on Thursday... I could complain that i'm dead tired, but I really can't... It was for a good cause. I got up at 1:30 int he morning to stand in line in front of a Walmart, to guarantee I'd get a Nintendo SNES Classic Mini. Still dead tired though...
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When a massive portion of an entire fandom is "slighted" by a change... I hardly think "slight" even qualifies as a descriptor for said change. If you call the changes they made to the Klingons slight, then I think you need new glasses... Or vision in the first place! They are not "slightly" changed... The Klingons were drastically altered, primarily visually. Even their behavior and culture was changed to a degree! Come on... Don't make me laugh... If I want a series to feature humans, I damn well want the people to look human. Is that so much to ask? Why then is an iconic species of the Star Trek series automatically supposed to be so fluid? Like I said, people made such a huge fuss over it when the movie first came out in 1979... At least they eventually managed to come up with an excuse for it the first time... This though... This is just absurd! Basically, YES... I want a dang Klingon to look like a dang Klingon! the fans didn't even WANT a reboot. They wanted a prequel. What they got was... Not Star Trek... It's just a generic Sci-Fi using Trek species, settings, and sound effects... But it doesn't fit. So yeah, in this thread to complain about things... I'm really ticked off at how the new Trek was handled. It. Was. not. Good. CBS is making a mistake... They are being openly antagonistic with public relations between them and the die-hard, classic fanbase... CBS wants to attract the young millennial crowd... Get some new blood in. The problem, is in creating a quick and instantly satisfying show to appeal to a new crowd, a crowd with a historical tendency to move on to the next fad when they bore of things... Is asking for Trek to get popular with a select new crowd quick... and then be dumped. And by CBS and the cast dumping the old fandom... Actively... Well, they end up just shooting themselves in the foot. Like I said... Star Trek is more or less dead. I'll be surprised to see another series even be attempted for at least another decade or more after this one inevitably fails. (behind it's paywalled garden)
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The human spawn have begun their educational migration, and are bringing back virulent strains of infectious agents... I have no human spawn, but people around me do... It's only a matter of time... Get well soon.