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I've just had this occur. It popped up asking if I wanted to Delete or Cancel. Because I don't trust such things, I went to my directory for the world I had been playing and made a copy of the quicksave.sfs and then clicked Delete. The action taken then by KSP was to delete the ENTIRE DIRECTORY containing my world and months of work AND my carefully duplicated quicksave.sfs copy. All gone. This was my mainline, production world; all gone. [I'm on Linux Mint 17.2 64-bit and I run directly rather than through Steam. I have MechJeb, Kerbal Alarm Clock, Docking Port and Haystack installed. The upgrade to 64-bits is relatively recent and as a result my normal system backups are not operational, which is why I can't just go and get yesterday's KSP state off another disk.] This happened after a crash and the crash occurred because I had done an f5 quick save and I began typing ahead before it had finished ['Z' for max thrust]. I've noticed in the far past that you can crash KSP by triggering a Quick Save while an Auto Save is in progress which indicates to me that the code around saves[/restores?] is not sufficiently interlocked. And the reason I was doing a quicksave during a very long transfer burn is because as of the last couple of months, the nuke engine heat indicators no longer give you a precise warning of when those engines are going to fail. When the red progress bar for overheat gets level with about the 'v' in Overheat [30%?], the engines explode without warning, effectively ruining your day. This happens in a vacuum [alt:150K] with the 12 running nuke engines being the only source of heat. fwiw, the quicksave.sfs looked normal length. guess the moral of the story is that if you are going to back up anything manually, send it outside KSP's reach. and whenever KSP offers to Delete anything it doesn't want to deal with, fully expect it to take the whole world down irrecoverably. you will be better off in all cases, attempting to do diagnosis/surgery yourself, if you have that capability.

I've been thinking about this post for a long time and finally came looking for it. I'm surprised there aren't more people who've chimed in here. And also surprised the lists seem so esoteric to me. But that is a good thing. I'd start with an honorable mention for the very venerable MechJeb. We have a no-mods policy in my household and when I finally buckled and installed MechJeb, my son (8) wanted to know why. He does question authority. But I'd put Kerbal Alarm Clock as #1. You cannot be a Mission Director (and wear the vest) without it. If one could only have one mod, this would be have to be it. #2 is Haystack. Not very glamourous, maybe, but fills a very huge crater in the UI, especially when the chips are down and you are on a 45-second schedule to pull through... #3 would be MechJeb. In the recent transition from 1.0.4 to 1.0.5, I had to live without it for a few weeks and I did quite very well, thank you. But, long ago, it taught me how to rendez-vous. When I couldn't go any further, I installed it and I took notes. Now it seems pretty mechanical and I turn it off sometimes to do critical pieces (e.g. bypass time-wasting infinitesimal matching of planes or prop-wasting docking maneuvers), but, in the main, it saves me time and allows me to focus on the big picture. I'm gonna review every other contribution here to mine the gems... Thanks.

I may have a slightly different take on this. If you want to land on a pinpoint and use the minimum possible fuel, you'd do what NASA does and let a computer do it. Sure, the math/physics is interesting and you'd need that to program the computer, but that is already done: MechJeb. I am exploring mining operations and efficiency for me is measured in terms of repeatable close grouping of landings of the ore transport lander, to the cluster of drill rigs, the cost being my time to drive the ore transport rover from the drill rigs to the lander... So do you want to do it "by hand"? Well, yeah, baby!! I've been developing a procedure to repeatedly get me within 150 meters of target. I have a standard, multifunction (6) lander that that can carry 15 tons of fuel into low, lo-grav orbit, so fuel on the way down to the surface "empty" is not my problem. On my last try, I crashed into the target , just grazed it, on landing. Don't know yet if it was a fluke, but I've modified the procedure to "detune" the final step in landing. Here's the procedure as it is so far... I start with a 20-30Km orbit around the Mun, about 545 m/s 90 degrees before the target, I perform a rough inclination change to center trajectory over the target. (Yes, maybe this requires an informational target display from Mechjeb; certainly the Surface info panel in Mechjeb is indispensable.) 10-15 degrees before the target, I deorbit by reducing the surface horizontal velocity to 400 m/s, then switch to SFC mode on the navball. I hold attitude stable then and reduce to 300 m/s before 3 degrees before the target; 200 m/s 2 degrees before the target; 100 m/s 1 degree before the target and down to 20 m;/s and less as I approach the target longitude. This I call the asymptotic method. It's not the most efficient but it's compatible with the "suicide burn" and it's manageable for a human pilot Next is "ride the ball" and it is hard to describe and it's what makes this procedure deadly (fireball) accurate. There are 4 symbols on your navball [my notation]: your attitude (+), your retrograde (O), the target (T) and the SFC normal (X) (the middle of the navball)). + (under thrust) drives your retrograde, O, away. Your orbit scrolls from O toward X. O also tends toward X due to gravity! If your target, T, is not inline with O and X, it will scroll past you. So you need to use your attitude to drive your retrograde, O, to be in a line, OTX. Your only control is + which positions O (by driving it away). When O is inline, OTX: O drives T toward X. When you get all 4 coincident (with gravity also somewhat in control), you are descending vertically right over your target (and will hit it and die in a fireball). When you get +OTX close enough (coincident) in a line, use the asymptotic rule again to manage vertical progress to land rather than crash. This is all-attention-consuming so all of these activities get assigned their own phase. Once you start managing the vertical, you have to let go of the target: you are as close as you are going to safely get on this flight. If you did 4 right (too well), you are going to hit the target and die, or at least, lose the tax payers' equipment... So this last step is actually part of 5, the vertical management phase, and it is "detuning the result", As you transition from riding the ball" to "land on terra firma", verify the navball is showing just a little misalignment. If not, work on getting some before it's too late. This explanation is maybe a little cryptic and/or erroneous, so let me know which parts are foggy and I'll do my best. This procedure is still evolving, too, so I'd love to hear better suggestions! Here's a mining site with 7 vehicles, http://imgur.com/nzlPK3v , with a 220m spread N-S and quite a lot closer grouping E-W.

I'll publish 2.0 of my Gossamer Albatross. This machine is superb fun to fly and I've never seen so much of the Mun "up close and personal" as I have in the few test flights of the Albatross that I've conducted so far. [ imgur]eM4DU[/imgur] I've put some materials into a folder on Google Drive for anyone who wants to download it and splice it into a quicksave.sfs and go straight to flying it. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByXEkzQMfWSJNm1ud2JFamhJNm8 (In the Read Me, I forgot to mention that the solar panels are on 1 and the toggle for the OMS Puffers are on 2...) I look forward to any feedback, suggestions or better versions!

An update on this: I tried a bit harder and discovered my major malfunction was that, if one wants to mount more Dawn engines, one should use the 1x1 rover plates and more of them to make the base, since each one provides a mounting point. Result is that I got 9x Dawn engines on it which means I can hover on the Mun with two-thirds and one-tick throttle. Should therefore work on Duna, too. But the fuel draw is much more than I thought, so the duration looks like 30+ minutes... not 3+ hours. @Dfthu, Dv dunno truthfully. I suppose it's 9x Dawns running for 30 minutes except I have 2x OMS Puffers on the stern for horizontal propulsion. Use them once to accelerate and again at the destination to slow up. I have 500 units of MP available so that might be enough with the Puffers to get you into orbit and even rendez-vous. (I ain't suggesting anybody try that, though!) @Rocket In My Pocket: sincere thanks for posting the second link which is the photo. I'll use Imgur from now on and thanks. The first link (first post) was the craft file of my 1.0 which sucked. The Google Drive link for that is: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0ByXEkzQMfWSJei1jRVczQ290T2c just for anyone who wants to play with it. I won't post my 2.0 in case anyone out there does want to build their own vehicle, but I'll post it eventually. Incidentally, I got my "airline mentality" in gear and put 24 seats onto Albatross 2.0. That'll make the headlines around the Kerbol system if one goes down in a mishap... Have fun!

I've built a prototype of a VTOL ion-drive "hover-raft" for lo-grav environments up to and including Duna. Gossamer Albatross 1.0 It's dual purpose is local tourism as well as commuter flights over about a 30-degree radius of the reference body's circumference. It could serve for rescue too. "Hover-raft" and "mono-prop commuter" are two nicknames for it. Unfortunately, I think I've reached the limits of my VAB capability with this project, so I'd like to open a competition. (Maybe something similar has been done before? Please let me know and provide a link and thank you!) Otherwise, I'd like to propose a challenge. Take a look at the craft file above. I want an 8-seater (6 or above). VTOL. Stays aloft on ion-power alone. Is only fueled with xenon and mono-prop. Is fun to fly and OK to require plenty of advance flight planning. You may use monoprop, e.g. OMS, to propel to speed or to initiate/augment ascent. It *must* be equipped with a refueling "spoon" (similar to that included in 1.0 above): a standard-size dock facing downwards for mating with a fuel-truck rover. Mono-prop is used for initial acceleration and final deceleration and the usual attitude adjustments. After that it should have at least 30 minutes duration aloft on ion-power. The v1.0 posted here needs weight reduction and I wanted to remove the stack bi-couplers and replace the retract landing gear with lighter-weight fixed gear. One last comment: "form follows function". I don't care how ugly the result is (check out my effort!!) as long as it is fun to fly and good for exploration, tourism and medium-distance commuting. Apologies to resorting to hoping other people would spend their own valuable time, energy and expertise working on this but I know that a) I am at the limit of what I can do with the VAB, and b ) there are rocket craftsmen out there who might revel in a challenge like this and enjoy producing something that I believe will be very useful and fun to a lot of others. Want to take a crack at it? Be my guest! Please post your work back in this topic and get some recognition/kudos for your ability!

If the root tool performs just one function, you have to ask why it provides two clicks. I think it's possible that in splitting two craft apart, designating the root node will specify the direction in which the connection part splits away. But even so, a one-click solution would set the root node and then detaching would work as normal. You would still need a second tool to make a connection node in some cases where the editor prefers the opposite end. It's when these two use cases are combined that things quickly get muddy. This post was the most helpful I had found: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/128626-editor-transparent-parts/#comment-2336425

Excellent; thank you.

(This is not a question; hopefully, it is an answer.) tl;dr: summary: activate the root tool it doesn't operate on anything transparent the first node you click will become the "connection" node the second node you click will become the new "root" node This tool (counter-intuitively combining two separate functions(?)) allows you to a) set the root node in an assembly of vehicles and b ) set some other part as a "connection" part, which makes it eligible (little, green, spherical marker) to have new (transparent) parts or sub-assemblies attached there. After you've operated with the root tool on an assembly, you'll likely have to save it as a sub-assembly and then manifest it in a subsequent edit to use it but then it will have the attachment point you need... -------------------- (This forum has been very helpful to me and I am very grateful. So I'd like to feed back something I've learned. Feel free to critique the above as it may be misleading or incorrect!) I had to edit a craft that is actually an assembly of several craft. You know the deal: a transfer vehicle delivers a lander into the destination orbit; the lander undocks and then deorbits to drop a rover on the surface but then land separately or re-orbit... I wanted to pull the vehicles apart to edit some and then reassemble them. (I use common components across a family of vehicles.) I needed the root tool but -- as has been remarked in this forum -- it isn't intuitive. (Which is pretty much inline with the whole "philosophy" of the VAB. ) There is some talk in this forum about cookbook step-by-step use of the root tool and some consensus that nobody knows how it works or how it is supposed to be used. Forgive me if there are some definitive articles about it, as I didn't find it. Hope this helps someone else. And, as always, I stand ready to learn from the more knowledgeable.

You're right. The Wiki says: "The conversion rate of this module is far less efficient than the bigger Convert-O-Tron 250's. " (I should have read the fine print!) I just converted 478 units of ore to receive 86.51 fuel and 106 oxidizer which is a fuel:oxidizer ratio of 1:1.23 and a yield of 20%, rather than 200%, so fourfa's 10-fold divisor is accurate. Thanks very much all! It's a relief to know what is going on. The ISRU is not strictly necessary on the ground. I thought I could use a smaller fuel budget on the lander but it's cheaper to produce all the fuel in space (OR take a large ISRU to the ground... which would mean a third type of flight system).

@Snark Yes, first time using any kind of ISRU. It's the small ISRU. @fourfa Interesting. The small ISRU is only 10% as efficient as the large ISRU?? woah. Redesign. I'll put the large ISRU on the rover on the surface. Although truth be told, I am now producing so much ore that it doesn't matter much except for pride. I'll run a test but it's credible that I am getting 150 units total of fuel from that 1500. Or should it be 300? Hmmm. I can also send some ore space-side and use a big ISRU up there to see what yield I get. I'll experiment and report back here. Thanks for the help, gentlemen.

I have empty fuel tanks, 1,500 units of ore in a tank. 4x Gigantor solar panels extended, and 4 of the small, passive radiators. I noticed that the radiators did not pick up a glow. (And I should mention that they were on a docked lander whereas the ISRU was on the rover docked to the lander. Nevertheless, the ISRU status said temp OK, 100% efficiiency.) Small ISRU runs quickly and at 100% efficiency at optimal temperature. I see that I *am* getting fuel converted but from 1,500 units of ore I only got about 20 units of fuel. There was a Kerbonaut sitting on a chair on the rover but I understand the presence or not of a Kerbonaut does not effect ISRU performance. This is KSP 1.0.5. So what gives? I expected to get 3,000 units of fuel from that 1,500 units of ore... Thanks for any assistance and enjoy your Holidays!

Well, guys... thank you. I would never have guessed you could make this so easy for me. I have just performed two successful tests. With the Duna Explorer, I made no changes but started an early gravity turn and then let SAS handle it by tracking Surface Prograde. Easy to orbit and lots of fuel left, too. With Neptune Gemini, I added steerable winglets, unlocked all the engine gimbals, initiated the turn before reaching 100 m/s and tracked Sfc Pro. Nice and steady, longer in the fiery atmosphere than I liked but it too orbited to 100K with lots of fuel left. I didn't even put fairings on the payload. I want to thank you all: John FX, Starhawk, Warzouz, paul23, Jovus, Pecan, fourfa, GoSlash27 for your insightful xepertise and professional courtesy. Brilliant, guys, thank you so much!

Thanks! I am very happy with all the helpful response and I will consider everything carefully. Most helpful to my sanity is to know that I am not alone in going through this and that it is a big subject: thanks!! The suggestion to post the craft file so anyone interested can lay hands on it is great. Here it is: https://mega.nz/#!ZsBwFIqB

(The subject of vehicle design ought probably to have its own section in the forum; I'm posting here... sorry if I've misposted) Background I discovered KSP in Dec 2014 as a result of a Xmas gift. From Dec 25 until the release of KSP 1.0, I spent more time flying in KSP than I spent at my full-time engineering job that pays the bills. With the release of 1.0 and discovering that my growing stable of single-architecture vehicles would no longer fly, I stopped playing KSP -- cold turkey -- thinking that I would "solve the problems" later. Well, I'm back, but struggling and still failing. I would really appreciate general and specific advice from anyone who has had some success making the transition to 1.0. Deeper Background (I just read a post about "what kind of Kerbonaut are you?") I suppose there are two kinds of players in general. Those who like to think that astro-engineering in KSP means they could cut it at NASA as real astrojocks. Maybe they want more and more reality until they can't cut it any more and, hey, it was fun while it lasted. Then maybe there are those like me who want a simplified environment that teaches you real things by offering graduated challenges but leaves plenty of room for imagination, creativity, innovation and fun. As engineering is my day job I can tell you it is detailed, hard, tedious, repetitious, boring, frustrating and exhausting. Whichever kind of Kerbonaut you are (see above), KSP has taught you much more about e.g. solar systems or orbital mechanics than you ever could imagine have learned anywhere other than NASA and given you that education broadly as well (which you would not get at NASA which is why engineers there relax at home (or at work ) flying missions in KSP!). I don't want to avoid worthy challenges! (These are what make recreational pastimes fun.) Orbital mechanics and particularly rendez-vous and docking are enormously hard (the first Russian cosmonaut to try to dock spent a very frustrating hour and then ran out of RCS fuel after having been as close as 1 meter. And he had no idea what he was doing: a space cowboy with the Right Stuff making it up as he went... The Russian-language version of KSP had not yet been released...) Orbital mechanics is challenging but it is my friend because if I understand it, it helps me get to where I want to go. Conversely, atmospheric re-entry is a foe because it does absolutely nothing for me except oppose my progress. While the first kind of Kerbonaut might very well tend to build spacecraft by consciously or unconsciously copying NASA ("mmm, yeah, this looks real"), the second kind of Kerbonaut may produce outlandish and even butt-ugly, preposterously impossible craft that are entertaining only if you don't puke on first sight. (Scott Manley has a couple of early videos of space-suited Kerbonauts sitting atop rockets in the open that demonstrate the concept pretty well!) The first kind of Kerbonaut probably should have tuned out of this post long ago -- and my apologies to any who have stayed with me this far!! Example Before I fell off KSP when 1.0 came out, I had been developing a common architecture for a whole family of multi- purpose vehicles to facilitate exploration of the whole Kerbol system. Yes, they were butt-ugly. But underneath, in my opinion anyway, there were concepts and insights and innovations that I had seen nowhere else. I was having fun. In addition, I came across someone else's craft labeled simply 'Duna Explorer' that I thought was ingenious and inspiring. None of this worked any more with KSP 1.0 and the typical problem was stable ascent for a while, followed by instability and tumbling. It's time to reveal a picture of exactly what I mean by the aerospace term: "butt-ugly". Please take a look at http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/113874-Neptune-Space-Labs and follow it to the Youtube site, Neptune Space Labs. You'll only get to see Neptune Gemini (space station launcher) which is a craft launched in pairs to make a six-spoke space station. It's a member of the Neptune family and the architecture is based upon three tiers: upper deck is payload and varies between family members depending upon mission(s) middle deck is the structural base for the whole vehicle and is also the deorbit stage lower deck contains the staged boosters for ascent and orbital insertion. Neptune tends to be tall which leads to the problem in KSP 1.0. Failed Remedies: I've put fairings onthe high-drag upper deck components I've put extra RCS especially at the top extremities I've put totally big-ass fins at the bottom of the craft (and everywhere else) I've shortened the length of the craft by distributing the payload (spokes) around the girth I've employed dynamic (and static) shifting of fuel mass to control the CoM so that the upper deck does not become comparatively fuel-heavy I've eschewed use of the MechJeb Ascent Guidance to opt for simple, stable, vertical ascent in the initial phase Nothing works. KSP 1.0 aerodynamics has defeated me. Unfairly, I feel because the totally fat-ass tail fins should have totally prevented end- swapping (hmm, well maybe not). To boot, I have lost my mind. (Obviously, when you rerun the tape at Neptune Space Labs...) Some of you will say, "yeah, that's ugly, Squad should revoke your KSP license and refund your purchase price and ban you for life." The Prize I think I've set the stage now with a pretty impossible challenge.. and packed the grandstand with observers. Any one in the very helpful and very knowledgeable KSP community who can identify in particular what is my major malfunction in KSP 1.0 all of a sudden is gonna deserve to comport themselves henceforth on two legs with a John Wayne, or perhaps I should say, Chuck Yeager, style swagger. More seriously... guys. what are the biggest lessons you learned when you hit the KSP Mach 1.0 aerodynamics barrier? How did you break through?

Hey thanks. I tried it again and it worked normally. I think the mystery was because the Pilot's Room simply had no available candidates to automatically load into the cockpit. Today when I tried it in the SPH, I pressed the Crew button to try to load the cockpit before rolling out to the runway and it showed Catula Kerman was already loaded in the cockpit. So it was just a shortage of Kerbal power... thanks for prompting me on this.

May be the first time I've tried any of the space planes since 1.0 came out. I've also moved to a 32-bit Linux system. I notice that none of the STOCK space planes will fly: "This vessel has no remote-controlled or manned command module. It won't be controllable." I looked inside the Stearwing D45.craft file and saw: part = mk2Cockpit.Standard_4290319044 I'd be happy to just get a download of the stock space planes if that would fix the problem. But maybe there are some common causes for this kind of problem? (All of the .craft files in the Ships/SPH folder have a date that is identical to the initial download and installation of KSP on this machine on 2015-10-04. I have: KSP 1.0.4.0 MechJeb2 2.4.2.0 Kerbal Alarm Clock 3.4.0.0 HaystackContinued 0.4.1.0 Navyfish Docking Port Alignment Any clues/hints/tips will be appreciated.

Here is a playlist for the series: The .craft files for all spacecraft will be posted at the end of the series. Neptune provides a platform to build your payloads upon and to pack every payload into space with as much fuel as you can carry. 1. Nothing moves in Kerbal Space without fuel. 2. All fuel comes from Kerbin 3. All that fuel has to be moved into low orbit. The Neptune Maximus fuel tanker will be featured in an upcoming video.

The Neptune class of spacecraft use a common architecture defining a range of multi-function vehicles dedicated to moving fuel and Kerbonauts into space for colonization and exploration. Neptune Space Labs is posting a series of videos on Youtube to introduce the range, beginning with Gemini 1. Please enjoy.