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I'm back on it and managed to solve some of the issues but still I have a errors when going into rotating frame and not packing the vessels.... Unfortunately I would need help from a SQUAD dev for this Or just more time until I get the inspiration

It's in the last part of the https://github.com/LunaMultiplayer/LunaMultiplayer/wiki/Parts-syncronization page. Direct link: https://github.com/LunaMultiplayer/LunaMultiplayer/tree/master/LmpClient/ModuleStore/XML/Squad

Hmmm I don't know exactly what could be the reason as I didn't see it locally. Please fill a bug report with the server files, vessels, steps to reproduce etc on github (https://github.com/LunaMultiplayer/LunaMultiplayer/issues) so I can reproduce it locally. If I cant see the error on my computer is almost impossible for me to fix it

You are right. I forgot to copy a dll aswell in the release. Now it should work. I recommend you to get the debug version and adjust the slider when below 100K meters. I'm trying to find a way to get that exact value but I'm quite lost on that. If someone can help me (need to know how ksp orbit works) I think I would be able to solve it and finish the mod. The only thing left is that the LAN value for active vessels orbits when switching to inverse rotation changes and it's periapsis/apoapsis values have some small rounding error Here are the current issues explained: https://github.com/LunaMultiplayer/TiltEm/issues

Managed to solve this and some other bugs. Still, I had to add a correction slider as I still can't manage to sync the orbits when in inverse rotation. Also when switching to rotation, the LAN parameter changes and also the pariapsis/apoapsies varies around 10 meters... This means that I have to mess with the orbital stuff from KSP but that part of the code is not easy to understand

The "accelerating" behaviour happens when your computer can't handle the graphics and then LMP forces the game to run at a higher speed. Next version has a part limit count setting on the server. This will avoid players from spawning vessels with million part count and then getting very low FPS. Bear in mind that KSP is not prepared for multiplayer and this mod is just a proof of concept. To really make it multiplayer the physiscs should be handled server-side but that would be way too much work

You're probably using mods? I made few tests and it works locally and with another tester Working on that but it will take some time

Latest version (0.17.0) should fix most of those issues I can't guarantee that is 100% stable but it contains a fix for a nasty bug that existed on LMP since the beginning and may have caused that behaviour

Will try to explain this with images and hope somebody can help me out on this... Here my active vessel is in a suborbital trajectory and the planetarium is NOT tilted, therefore, we tilt the planet and everything is nice and cool Now I force tilting the planetarium (it will happen anyways when I'm below 100K meters) and as you can see, all the OTHER orbits that are not the active are tilted "correctly" (or that's what I think). Bear in mind that when tilting the planetarium I must put the planet with 0 tilt as otherwise we would have a tilted planetarium + a tilted planet and that's not good) The problem is that on my active vessel the orbit is not moved (as I'm in track physics mode) so basically my vessel should be MOVED to do something like this: So, you can say: "well, just pack your active vessel or put the orbit driver in "update" mode for 1 frame and it will be unpacked on the next frame" but even with that solution, there are still some errors. In this case I'm in a vessel that is in a stable orbit and look how the orbit of that unloaded vessel that is in a ballistic orbit produces an error when tilting the planetarium: If someone has some knowledge on how the orbits are calculated inside KSP and it's celestial frames please contact me I'm preety sure that we can solve this issue

Yes now interpolation is always ON Regarding the orbit issues, just get the latest nightly version or wait until next version as that will be fixed

It's how KSP works. If you don't do it, the planet rotates below you and it's impossible to land without exploding, it also has to do with the PQS stuff. With the mod you can try it, just press the "Toggle Rotating Frame" once you're below 100k meters, be sure that the planetarium is not tilted and you will see what I mean. The thing is that you must land in a "static" planet instead of a rotating one, otherwise there are lots of issues

@5thHorseman Exactly. The issue is that when you're not in a rotating frame (this means that the PLANET is tilted and the planetarium is not tilted) the orbit looks fine and everything is nice The problem is that when you tilt the planetarium (it happens automatically when below 100k meters) then the planet must be tilted back as how it was before as otherwise you would have a tilted planetarium + a tilted planet and that's not good. So the issue here is that the vessel must be moved around to the equivalent position and also it's orbital data, that's where I'm stuck as I don't know how to move the vessel to where it should be I think that I must play around with the celestialframe, orbitdriver and orbit classes but I'm still stuck and this week I didn't had time to have a look at it

Next version will be integrated in kopernicus so that will help them Still stuck with the orbits issue I hope I can find a solution soon....

Probably a LMP bug. Have you tried nightly version? You can see how to get it on the wiki Nope, and probably it won't ever be as that can cause sync issues. P1 reverts and P2 completes a contract and so on... EDIT: Latest version supports this although with some limitations (check limitations page on the wiki)

Yes, you're probably right about the naming convention as to be honest my math/astronomy knowledge is quite limited. Your mod is awesome btw it's complexity is just as if KSP+Principia is a totally different game! I wish I developed my career around C++ instead of C# as sometimes I feel it's limitations and I would be better suited to understand your code .... Regarding the orbits I'm investigating what could be the issue, perhaps I'll have to play with the orbit driver transform... Will see what I get... About the tilting of the vessels, this mod suffers the same issue as yours, my idea is to add a callback to GameEvents.onRotatingFrameTransition And once that's called, get the tilt of the planet, run trough all the vessels in the game and call the vessel.SetRotation... If I manage to succeed on that I'll let you know as you can probably use it aswell

Yeah also the TiltX and TiltZ should be relative to the ecliptic and at this moment they are relative to the unity "world" axis so they must be worked on... Hopefully I will get into this once I manage to fix the bug described below -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been stuck with a bug and perhaps someone can help me on that... The basic idea of this mod is that on every CelestialBody_update of the planets if we are NOT rotating with the planet, I tilt the celestial frame of that body as seen in here and here. If the planetarium was tilted (more about this later) then it must be reset to the default state, this is done here. Fortunately this whole tilting of planets didn't caused much issues and it's what the released version 1.0.0 does The problem is that whenever you're below 100k meters of a planet, landed or in the KSC, the ROTATING FRAME is triggered and then you rotate WITH the planet and the planetarium is moved around instead. This basically means that the main body you're orbiting becomes static and the sun and all the other planets are moved around (basically what Aristotle said ). To properly apply axial tilt I had to tilt the planetarium celestial frame as it's shown here and here. Also, if before entering the rotating frame your planet had a tilt, it must be removed and set it to 0 as it's done here. This behavior was not existing on version 1.0.0 and this means that when you're landed or below 100k meters you don't see any axial tilt... This new functionallity caused several issues and here I explain how I solved them... 1: The orbit of the packed vessels and planets must be tilted aswell! This is done by tilting the orbit frames here just before their orbit calculations are done. This doesn't apply to unpacked vessels (more about them below) 2: As the whole universe is tilted, all the vessels that are unpacked (with orbitdriver mode set as "track physics") including the active vessel must be moved to the new universe-tilted position. IMPORTANT NOTE: In KSP, whenever a vessel is unpacked the orbit is updated based on the current vessel position otherwise, when the vessel is packed (with the orbitdriver mode set as "update") the orbits are updated on every frame and then, the vessel is moved to there the orbit says it should be To fix this behaviour, I put the orbit driver of unpacked vessels (including your own active vessel) to "Update" mode for 1 frame, this makes the vessel go to where the orbit specifies and then it returns back to it's "track physics" mode. This is done here ------ This new functionallity mostly work fine, however there are some bugs in the positioning as you can see in this gif: https://i.imgur.com/lIO3aVv.gif As this detail image shows, the orbit "end" is not the same when the planetarium is tilted Does someone know what could be happening with the orbit vector? For that particular case I had to apply a rough correction of: tilt = new Vector3d(tilt.x - 4, -10, tilt.z - 2); To the planet tilt when applying it to the planetarium here but it doesn't make any sense and I only got those numbers by trial and error and the might be different if the planet tilt varies or perhaps even if the vessel orbit is different. In case you want to test it yourself, get a debug build (so you have the debug panel and you can change the rotating frame) here. Remember that you need to have kopernicus installed!

It's just a proof of concept at this stage. I'm trying to fix some of the bugs, once they are fixed it will work as a plug-in for Kopernicus

Then probably there's a bug when tilting the planetarium. I will have a look at it during the week

Already answered on GitHub but I will answer here aswell. When you are below a certain altitude KSP tilts THE SKYBOX and not the planet. This means that all the planets, the sun and the skybox that is behind them is moved around the sky, this is why when you go to map view and your vessel is landed / at low altitude you won't see kerbin tilted and you will see a weird "jittering" when looking at the sun from the map view). Once you go to a higher orbit, KSP switches the mode and then THE PLANET is tilted and the skybox is static. This is how KSP works and it works fine, it's the expected behavior. If you want to check if this system works, just warp until the North Pole is in winter and land there with a plane. If you see the sun then there's a bug, if there is dark all the time then it's fine. Base your tests on facts and not on what you "see" as KSP had to do a lot of hacks to be able to work on unity

Go to the appveyor build: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/gavazquez/tiltem Then go to the artifacts tab. Bear in mind that you need Kopernicus installed. It's still not in releases as I want to be sure that the bug you put on GitHub is resolved. Once I'm back home on Tuesday I'll have a look at it 1.1 version has tiltz and tilx

Have you tried it in 1.1? You can get it from appveyor-> artifacts but you will have to install Kopernicus as well. I'm on holidays but if the error exists in 1.1 please do a GitHub bug report and I will look at it next week

Just check some posts above yours, I've done several navball tests and it works fine on the 1.1 (you can get it compiling the code or in appveyor) not sure if on 1.0 is buggy

A Kopernicus patch is on the way, but yes, you use the modded planet names by replacing the default KSP ones and add more if you need Regarding the bug you posted on github I think it's fixed on 1.1. You can get the build from the "artifacts" in the appveyor: https://ci.appveyor.com/project/gavazquez/tiltem

Not tested but it should

The only thing that could happen is that geostationary orbits get "broken" as they won't be above the same part of the planet where you left them