OrtwinS

Copyright and Intellectual 'Property' laws are a mess. I'll get a whole lot worse still...

They lie, you do live in the future. It's USA based capitalist-imperialism that wants you to think otherwise. This is how they continue to mess with us, they get supplied info from the future (our present) by under-cover ops in Europe, and then use their present to change our past, up to 12 hours (from Hawaii to central Europe).

This should also be in this thread: This is a quote from another (quite old) thread.

2 hour earlier he made a thread exclaiming his excitement. The thread got closed within 4(!) minutes. There is nothing wrong with being excited (...eh... oops?). But there is already a .23 discussion thread and creating new threads only for people to go "Oh boy, yes I'm excited too!" kinda pollutes the forum (littering). So: Excitement: OK Duplicate threads: Nope And I expect this thread will be closed down for the same reason And I probably get a sneer for backseat moderating (Bad Ortwin! (backseat-moderating-ception?)). Which I will defend by pre-mature exclamation of: "I just wanted to explain and add context!"

Parts of our earth economy are reaching a post-scarcity state as we speak. Consider what I can get if I buy a 'current day' smart phone for less than 170 euro (for example the Moto G, 8GB version). Free wifi is everywhere, offered as a service in countless shops, cafe's and other places. There is Wikipedia, free bittorrent apps, free discussion forums. I can even make money if my youtube vids (which I make with my phone) are popular enough. Everything digital in entertainment and education is already freely available (though not necessarily legal). Several organisations are desperately trying to resist this post 20th century new information economy. Their entire business model is based on (now artificial) scarcity of information and info-media. And they will use all resources at their disposal to bend the political and legal landscape to resist this change. A large part of this equation is still 'real' stuff. The computers required, energy needed to keep everything running. Network infrastructure, The food and shelter we the users still need. In any case, this trouble surrounding this change in a 'minor' part of our economy is an interesting example and perhaps a preparation of the earthquake in economics when something like 'energy' ever become cheap enough to be considered 'free' like information is now. Not that we ever learn from our previous economic mistakes though. The subject of economy seems to not have advanced since the 1900's considering economists still seem to think unlimited growth within a limited system is a feasible strategy.

Thank you for that link, that was exactly what I was looking for. (If one clicks the 'load more' button several times eventually the KerbalKon 2013 opening of 18 hours past is view-able).

I'm not that familiar with Twitch, so I'm probably doing something wrong... I can't watch live due to rl stuff and not very convenient time zone differences, so I would like to watch some KerbalKon videos now, but I can't seem to find anything except ancient stuff and the current life stream. I'd like to start at the beginning, with Harvesters 'What's coming in 0.23' (dec 12, 10-11am broadcast according to the schedule). Anyone have a link? Or will the entire KerbalKon only come available after the entire event has passed and Squad crew had a chance to chop up all the parts?

I had no idea what the 'tarmac' meant. In my defense: I've not been raised in an English speaking country, nor have I ever visited one. But please, as long the words are generally accepted English continue to use them. I learn every day.

Excuse me my poor choice of words, English is not my prime language. I meant a 4 ly trip which takes only 0.5 years from the Earth perspective (my local, not the vessel, which I probably should have named 'earth perspective time'). Assuming tech that creates space distorting fields and energy requirements that mis-match our current ideas of energy storage or production. My criticism wasn't the assumptions in theory, it was the assumptions I made leading to any practical application. The thread is named "Alcubierre mathematics", sorry for straying of the path. No, of course not. After a good night rest and careful review I humbly admit that my memory nor my practice obsession have contributed in any meaningful way to the thread, and being a (supposedly) educated person I should have stopped myself from posting anything at all (except perhaps a note of interest). I feel ashamed for letting myself getting carried away by the sense of "Oh yea, I once calculated stuff on that topic". 2 weeks of graduation student indulgence don't give one any authority on any topic. I blame a remnant of 'youthful I-can-take-on-the-world-itis', in order to preserve my current sanity. Don't you ever do something, and the day after you want to slam your head on the desk thinking "**** I thought I had outgrown that particular behavior years ago"? Well this is one of those cases for me. I apologize for the stress and the almost tangible dismissive passive aggression I seem to have awakened in you. Thank you for the notice though. I'll edit my previous post to prevent further confusion and/or derailment, though I wouldn't if it could serve as a permanent landmark and reminder for myself to not behave as an arrogant dick. Which is also the reason why I write this in the thread and not in a PM. Peace K^2?

BWHAHAHAhaha... Oh THANK YOU for that. Though it distresses me that even in the (hypothetical) face of an alien civivilization, you STILL thrive on hate (or 'dislike', 'disapproval' which both=='hate-light'). Ontopic: I think there are very little material goods we can offer them. Cultural artifacts perhaps, if they are into that kind of thing like we are. Any other bulk of (possibly processed) material is probably too expensive/difficult to haul out of our atmosphere. Unless there is a more specific situation and they want to build a base (or something) in the neighborhood and they didn't bring much themselves. Information, culture (if they have any concept that matches our affinity for knowing about other peoples habits), perhaps philosophy. History, being able to grasp how we came to be what we are. The knowledge imbalance will be a factor 100 over the Euro-america balance in the 16th century. The power balance is unknown since we don't know how dependent they will be on our resources to survive (like our 'explorers' did need to stock sweet water before they could go back). We better behave on our best, and hope they will not 'help us get civilized' like Europeans did to Americans. Though if they are willing to help us solve our troubles, we should accept and proceed (with caution, though that does sound a bit paranoid). I wonder how quick we'd be able to solve our disputes when they visit. We, Euro-Japan-America (and China, probably) are the most dominant influences on our world politics and economics. I believe our earth does have enough to feed us all, without breaking down our ecosystem. Will a confrontation with another intelligent race wake us up to our responsibility? Will we overcome our nationality-handicapped sense of righteousness? Considering that about half the US-euro politicians are already willing to condemn half their own population in order to support their individual needs, will we be able to overcome our ego? I think those social issues will take priority over any other 'practical' trade.

I highly recommend you separate the original text and your comments by means of some useful formatting or layout. I do appreciate the comments as well, it is quite interesting to see your spontaneous writer-editor relationship

edit: This post used to contain a truckload of bollocks. And a significant amount of shameful behavior not befitting the balanced, thoughtful, and introspection-prone person I attempt (or pretended?) to be.

And there the two worlds met on common ground. Kerman and Kermon, united in awe of exploration. Both drinking heavily from the nectar called 'new stuff to see'.

If it would fully simulate scan-rays to probe the distance to a certain point, and then use the current height and scan angle to calculate a height-point it would be a HUGE load on your CPU, and the result would be exactly the same (and possibly worse, since you would get scan artifacts). You can forget about multi-sat scanning then. You don't want KSP to use realistic fuel convection simulations either. Such calculations would be more complex than the whole of the current KSP. The same argument goes for SCANsats scanning method, making stuff under the hood FAR more complex 'for realism' without results is just dump IMO.

2020 ESA-Roscomos-JAXA-CNSA announce they will start a joint moon base project, construction starts 2030, planned completion in ~2035. International cooperation, world peace mumbo-jumbo, the usual everyone pays, everyone profits. NASA is kept out of the deal by grumpy unimaginative and scared old men in the US senate and house of representatives. Not even president Biden is able to sway the house. (tbh, it seems he's not really trying, since US politics is still locked up no coherent policy can be executed) 2021-2030 The high-tech industry continues its retreat out of the USA (that started when ancient copywrong and IP laws crippled innovation) towards China, Japan and Europe because that's where the party is. US economy and morale is taking a beating, the increasing outrage forces the USA to accept the challenge (or actually, voice the challenge themselves, like they did the last time). 2035 Thanks to the still active (though not flourishing) US private space industry the US was able to catch up on the coalition who finally have reached a consensus on what launch vehicles to use. (they got delayed by a 5-year long discussion on what to use, who gets to build what, who get to fly what, etc.). Both parties have launched their exploration Moon-orbiters with specialized equipment to search for suitable locations. To be continued?

Enticing idea, but no thanks. I have no trouble at all with the billions we spend on space stuff, but those generally have actual use. Better not spend 60 million on putting a steel brick in space. I put forth a motion to scale the bus back to dinky toy size. Something like this: We can make that a KSP branded bus, piggyback riding on some other commercial launch. Advantages: - It is plausible to execute with a community kickstarter - Lots of PR! ("space game community puts actual bus in Space!") With only a few thousand USD we could do this. These days getting a kilogram of stuff in LEO costs a few thousand (this mini-bus would weight far less), add 1000 USD for creating (3D printing?) a KSP themed mini-bus, and voila: instant awesomeness. edit: We also need to send up a camera & transmission equipment, we need to have some images of our KSP bus being put in space.

Creepiness is complementary with either with the 'leaders of the free world'-complex, or the 'goals justify the means'-syndrome.

That is a very neat picture. This is an intrueging 'constellation' of intersecting orbit planes. Those stars must be stable in some form for them to be still around like that. (though of course, these are all very tiny dots of matter compared to the space in between. and their gravitational interaction is neglectible compared to the forces of the anomaly in the middle). Would be spectacular when 2 of them collide...

Stuff marked in blue here: http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/Planned_features Also, I recommend reading the dev notes from the last few Dev-note Tuesdays (in the Daily Kerbal forum). Most important points (IMO): - 0.23 will not bring 'major' new stuff - Lots of bug fixing and performance upgrades though - Science UI gets an overhaul, and you'll be able to view where you've done science already - 3D mouse support - tweakables (for more details, read those dev notes)

"KSP writing first flight" ->#1 That only works with 'smart' search engines like Google, who take those into account for deciding what page is relevant. KSP forum search is less useful than AltaVista.

If it's an announcement it's not a bump . A post that says something like: "He guys, next chapter is delayed 'til next December 2014!" is valid. Though, if you go the "I'm gonna give weekly progress reports until then"-way, you are stretching it . I noticed finding this thread is... well not a pain, but it might trouble some. a) The KSP forum search function seems to be a 'dumb' frequency filter. If the thread contains 100k-times the string 'interesting anomaly', it is assured to top the list when searching for 'monolith anomaly', even if there is no other correlation. It disregards too common words, like: 'kerbal', 'writing', 'first' and 'flight' (see the trouble there?) However: Google come to the rescue, input 'KSP writing first flight' in Google, and this thread is result #1 .

Beat you to it? Well... impatience is not a virtue. Though I did attempt to mask it with some concern

*cough* ahem How have you been last week?

Not just to orbit please. Make it a ~20 minute real-time timer. That way one can test stuff like deploying parts, and action groups in orbit.

And untill such feature is implemented (I do support the idea) you may consider SCANsat parts to be more old-fashioned with a hard on/off switch. As long the switch is ON, it will consume energy. If you are out of energy you can't turn it in the OFF position, and the huge drain will prevent you from ever doing so. Bad luck (or bad planning).