iceman_gobbi

Congratulations bud!! This tiny plane in my opinion is the... Cuttest little plane I have seen!! I dont know if is good, fast or even is capable of orbit but one thing I know: It very small!! ) The fact that the cool "peregrine" fly or take off is for it own a big (in my language) proeza!! *proeza means when someone got something almost imposible, like Julius Cezar winned godlike battles!! I prefer planes like Blackbird (american SR-71) or SU-35 "super flanker", MiG-31 foxhound, MiG-27 etc, but your plane are very charming! And, I think have many advantages like lightweigth, highpeeds, climb, etc, etc. Congrat!

Guys! Hey guy? Just do what I do with my very fly whale, my mania of decentralizyng center of mass just for build 4 atmo engines BELOW wings and not in the middle, always result in some of both: 1-stability problems uping the nose of ship dangerously or: 2- Pushing de nose down. I try all, realign all engines, follow some tips of a lot "specialists" in aeroplanes, try add a lot of rcs thrusters (because as less atmosphere, less control about my dear Espinhenta I have), but it was just I turn on rocket mode and in matter of seconds happen a catastrofic lost of control (almost till splashdown in ocean), always the same think, when I am about to give up and literatly delete all saved versions, I think: "Well.. If there are to much thrust going from down of the ship, but, JUST A LITTLE BIT in comparisson with all thrust that engines could generate, WHY NOT PUT JUST ONE OR 2 LITTLE RADIAL ENGINES! THEY EVEN ARE ORANGE AND STYLIST! WHY NOT TRY?!" So, I put 2 rockomax at very middle (dorso) above the plane, and just for garantee more 2 of the same engines BELOW rocket engines, but almost in the center line just in case the thrust of the first 2 engines be much stronger, ok, result it was: THE BLACKBIRD TURN IT INTO A PERFECT AEROSPACE SHIP!! I swear guys, in the moment I turn the little 20kn engines, alll look like heaven! Looks like never some part it was builded far of center line!! But.. Is still a difficult plane to pilot, "she" (Espinhenta) claim/drain alll talent a pilot should have!! Lol But, in "aeroplanes mode", far away from vertical rockets, I'm just a newbie anyways!! Still thinking: its not so hard just try put one engine and set one key in action groups for the opossite side the nose points, dont you guys, think?! Just 0,09t but the rest of the "girl" is aalll very very light weigth (allways my major concern!)

This kind of problem, and your thougts, are full filled my mind a long time ago, till present day!! Some feelings like: Why?! Why I can not simply put the already heavy and big nuclear engine radially?! And this was feel it in such high level that I change cfg, adding a 3th node for nuclear engine, almost the same of long 1,25m tank. But, just 3 days behind, when I must use, just one engine in normal way (stacked below some part) I realize that he are attachment in some other piece, or the fairings when jettisoned are destroying the node and messy with my entire lander + last stage!! I dont know why, and can't find a razonable solution, but I find a mod with shuttle engines, shoulders engines and ordinary ones, but I not try yet. By the way: it because I create a topic talking about this problem Nuke problem, and a friendly person paste the link of this thread, so I am some way "happy" that I am not alone in this "cruzade" to find a logic way for build a good ship/lander/lifter/plataform!!

Man, Excelent explanation! Me and my friend was almost figthing because I ALWAYS say (and swearing) for him that all of my big rockets (beetwen 600 till 1200tons) it must a very shallow, (almost completly vertical till 45, 50k), I agreed with your conclusion at the end, oh god know how much!! ))) I would like to thank you very much! As I understand my litfs and travel till orbits are not just a "waste of efficiency"!! But, correct me if I am wrong: Vertical climb makes reduce of atmospheric drag fastest as possible, or not?! Because if a ultra-hiper-mega-rocket have 10m/s directly for up, the same rocket with the same speed, IN A VERY HORIZONTLY CLIMB OF 10º (in relation to surface) would need "LUDICROUS MORE time, AND FUEL of course. But in majority of my missions and plans, I am using my Hercules MK XRTX or the biggest, Colossus Tiamat Ultra (872ton!) so Always, and ever, and ever when I try (even a micro inclination of 10º) a inclination, that it is! The rocket beguin a turn and turn till my rocket'cone is completly downside, lol!! Please, I would like to ask some of great help for me, can you tell me if with aeroplanes or horizontal takeoffs rockets the same conclusions aplly?!? If you can tell your guess I will be very glad because I am beguining "in AEROPLANES mode" and my mania for big things continues, so my flights are almost allll catastrophic when airplane brake 33, 35k!! Lol! Again, great work sr.!! P.S. Some of you already see a F-16 take-off with a incrediable climb till exactly vertical in a matter of 4seconds?! Is completly unbeliable!