Sternface

I meant the parasitic drag from the extra fuel tanks set up in parallel, each of which would add considerably to the rocket's cross-sectional area - increasing form drag by a non-trivial amount. Not to mention interference drag and boundary layer-vorticity mayhem. Fuel line drag would be trivial in comparison to that caused by parallel fuel tanks, which would probably increase the rockets cross-sectional area by at least double. Then once you factor in aerodynamic stresses, the structure would need to be incredibly strong to hold the thing together. Seems much more practical to use series staging, barring the heaviest of rockets (heavier than the Saturn V). P.S. I've been using FAR, RSS, and modular fuels since they came out (Came here from Orbiter2010). I can't imagine going back to stock.

With real aerodynamics in play, I am skeptical that the weight-shedding benefits of asparagus staging would offset the loses in drag. Except maybe in limited use, such as in the Falcon Heavy. Seems much more efficient just to use series staging rather than parallel. I haven't done the maths, so I could be wrong.

For sure. I used them to give you an idea of how much fuel each stage had. Stretchy tanks would work better.

How is this? Exactly 20 tons to LEO: 691 tons gross. No struts required (with Ferram's joint reinforcement). Ascent profile: Ap: 250km. Turn: @400m. Final angle: 0. Turn end: 140km. (Limit acceleration to ~1.5g's before breaking through max Q) 1st stage: Liquid fuel/oxidizer 2nd stage: Liquid fuel/oxidizer 3rd stage: H2/LOX

Lol, that monster's entire third stage was outside the VAB. Not wobbly at all...when it didn't explode on start lol..... took a few restarts before it loaded without catastrophic failure.

Just built my heaviest lifter yet. I needed it for a manned trip to Europa, which required a 205 ton payload. Normally I would split that into two, but with Ferram's reinforced joints, why not make it one? Gross weight came in @ 7,028 tons, with a 76,000 kN first stage 207m in height. Btw Nathan, I just unlocked the larger stretchy tanks in my career and started using them for the first time. They really make construction so much easier....next I need to unlock the larger interstage fairings.

Sorry, no time for a proper response. I recommend using Mechjeb as a form of tutorial. Don't just click and go, but study what it does, and use it as a template. Travel in space is basically a game of changing orbits. As opposed to "straight-line" travel. You always want to modify your orbit such that you intersect with your target's orbit, and at a time when the distance between is smallest. Then, at minimum distance, you match orbital velocities. Matching velocities is much easier when you are entering a target's gravitational sphere of influence. All you need to do is set your Pe as low as possible, and burn retrograde to reduce your eccentricity to below 1. Mechjeb and EngineerRedux will show you the data needed.

Number 3, by far. Though the delta-V involved with the Mun is so small, it doesn't really matter. Try it out with Real Solar System mod. Every single little kilogram counts. If that kind of not-optional optimization sounds fun for you, I highly recommend it.

Not sure what I would do, but if women were in charge, we would already have seen interstellar travel. How else would they reach extrasolar planets made entirely of diamonds? Lots of samples would be brought back. For science.

Check out the wiki article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orbital_mechanics Without defined parameters, I find it hard to give you a 'universal' formula. There are many, depending on what you are trying to calculate.

A more apt analogy would be if you were standing in the isle of a jet traveling at 1,600 km/h, which suddenly slammed head-first into a vertical Himalayan rock-face, like the side of K2 or Everest. Do you get blasted off the rear end of the plane and out into the sky? You do - well, very very small chunks of you that manage to get past the disintegrating fuselage. Inertia can quickly rain on your velocity parade, like it does with this jet: That jet was going 800km/h. Double that, and see what happens when you jump inside the cockpit 1 second before impact (aka, 1,600km/h deceleration, the same one would experience if the world stopped instantly.) One could say that the concrete wall destroys the plane. One could also say that the plane's change in momentum responding to an almost instantaneous 800km/h deceleration destroyed the plane. Same thing. But with the Earth scenario, I highly doubt that your feet will provide enough traction to fully transfer the force of deceleration. More likely, you will lose your balance, fly for a fraction of a second at 1600km/h, and then be ground to a pulp upon landing. Possibly compressed and superheated by the atmosphere, which will be working to resist your deceleration.

Hi Fractal, as usual, thanks for the quick response. I just tested it. When the science lab is not the root, I see the bug. When the science lab was the root, it launched fine without the bug. Here is the relevant part of the log in case you want it for play-test debugging. Creating and launching a 2-part ship with Odin command capsule as root, and science lab attached: [LOG 14:57:07.534] ------------------- initializing editor mode... ------------------ [LOG 14:57:07.535] editor started [LOG 14:57:07.882] Untitled Space Craft - Untitled Space Craft [ERR 14:57:13.310] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler [LOG 14:57:13.313] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF9A58A][143.5813]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:13.343] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF9A58A][143.5813]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:13.360] NP.OdinCapsule(Clone) (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:13.368] Odin OTV Command Capsule: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.5, 2.0, 2.5), LD (2.5, 2.5, 0.0), UD (1.0, 1.0, 0.0) Surface area: 10.82084 Fineness Ratio: 0.7950407 TaperRatio: 0.4192903 Cross Sectional Area: 4.794518 [LOG 14:57:13.372] FAR Raycast mask: 557059 557063 [LOG 14:57:18.789] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF987BE][148.7628]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:18.793] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF987BE][148.7628]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:19.643] scienceModule(Clone) (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:19.645] Science Laboratory: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.9, 3.5, 3.9), LD (2.9, 3.5, 0.0), UD (2.8, 3.3, 0.0) Surface area: 34.76223 Fineness Ratio: 1.026144 TaperRatio: 0.9384246 Cross Sectional Area: 9.10667 [LOG 14:57:20.038] scienceModule(Clone) added to ship - part count: 2 [LOG 14:57:20.040] stage count is: 0 [LOG 14:57:22.027] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for NoControlSources: PASS! [LOG 14:57:22.029] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for NoCrewInMannedVessel: PASS! [LOG 14:57:22.030] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for LaunchSiteClear: PASS! [LOG 14:57:22.031] [Pre-Flight Check]: All Checks Complete. Go for Launch! [LOG 14:57:22.033] Launching vessel from LaunchPad. Craft file: C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [LOG 14:57:22.175] Game State Saved as persistent [WRN 14:57:22.176] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From EDITOR to FLIGHT ===================== [WRN 14:57:22.939] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:57:23.339] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.341] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.342] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.343] Utils: Initializing Callbacks... [LOG 14:57:23.344] Utils: Initialized Callbacks [LOG 14:57:23.344] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.345] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.359] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:23.359] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:23.360] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:23.360] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:23.361] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:23.362] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:23.362] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:23.363] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:23.364] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.365] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.367] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.368] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:23.491] *RSS* Fixing PCam. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [LOG 14:57:23.492] Fixed. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [WRN 14:57:25.251] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:57:25.621] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.622] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.623] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.624] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.625] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.639] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.640] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.640] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.641] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.642] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.642] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.643] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.643] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.644] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ReentryPhysics' from assembly 'DeadlyReentry, Version=2.1.5053.514, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.646] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'FARGlobalControlFlightObject' from assembly 'FerramAerospaceResearch, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.649] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.650] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.651] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.651] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.652] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.652] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.653] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.653] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.654] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.654] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.655] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.656] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.656] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.657] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.657] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:25.658] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.659] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonPointer' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.661] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonControlKey' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.663] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonDebugTools' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.664] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonWinchGUI' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.666] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KerbalJointReinforcement' from assembly 'KerbalJointReinforcement, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.667] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.669] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.670] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'chatterer' from assembly 'chatterer, Version=0.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [WRN 14:57:25.714] [CHATR] dir: russian has 0 capcom clips [LOG 14:57:25.724] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.725] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.726] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'AFGEditor' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.728] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TransmitterSafety' from assembly 'StationScience, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.730] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KACFlight' from assembly 'KerbalAlarmClock, Version=2.6.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:25.731] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Awakening the KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 14:57:25.732] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Textures [LOG 14:57:25.795] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loaded Textures [LOG 14:57:25.796] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Config [LOG 14:57:25.798] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.799] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.799] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.800] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.801] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.801] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.802] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.802] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.803] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.803] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.804] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.804] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.805] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.806] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.806] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.807] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.807] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:25.808] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.808] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:25.809] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.809] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:25.810] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:25.810] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.811] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.812] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.812] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.813] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.813] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.814] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.814] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.815] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.815] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.816] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.817] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.817] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.818] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.818] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.819] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.819] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:25.820] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:25.820] Parsing double [LOG 14:57:25.821] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.822] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:25.823] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Trying New Alarms file... [LOG 14:57:25.825] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,AlarmsFileVersion:3 [LOG 14:57:25.826] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Config Loaded Successfully [LOG 14:57:25.827] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Transfer Modelling Data [LOG 14:57:25.881] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Transfer Modelling Data Load Complete [LOG 14:57:25.882] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Invoking Worker Function KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 14:57:25.883] 0.1 [LOG 14:57:25.883] 11/26/2013 2:57:25 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Setting up repeating Behaviour(BehaviourUpdate) every 0.10 Secs [LOG 14:57:25.950] ------------------- initializing flight mode... ------------------ [LOG 14:57:26.308] Loading ship from file: C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [ERR 14:57:26.323] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler [LOG 14:57:26.326] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF9843E][152.5294]: OnAwake [WRN 14:57:26.329] Part NP.OdinCapsule_4294550946 cannot load module #9. It only has 9 modules defined [LOG 14:57:26.337] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF983FA][152.5294]: OnAwake [WRN 14:57:26.338] Part scienceModule_4294543308 cannot load module #5. It only has 5 modules defined [LOG 14:57:26.340] Untitled Space Craft loaded! [LOG 14:57:32.586] putting ship to ground: 0.7443137 [LOG 14:57:32.590] [Untitled Space Craft]: Ready to Launch - waiting to start physics... [LOG 14:57:32.597] Crewmember Jebediah Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 0 (crew seat index: 0) [LOG 14:57:32.598] Crewmember Bill Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 1 (crew seat index: 1) [LOG 14:57:32.599] Crewmember Bob Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 2 (crew seat index: 2) [LOG 14:57:32.600] [FLIGHT GLOBALS]: Switching To Vessel Untitled Space Craft ---------------------- [LOG 14:57:32.603] setting new dominant body: Kerbin FlightGlobals.mainBody: Kerbin [LOG 14:57:32.605] Reference Frame: Rotating [LOG 14:57:32.643] stage manager resuming... [LOG 14:57:32.645] Vessel assembly complete! [LOG 14:57:32.645] stage manager starting... [LOG 14:57:32.646] all systems started [LOG 14:57:32.672] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:32.673] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:32.673] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:32.674] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:32.675] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.675] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.676] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.676] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.677] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.677] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.678] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.678] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.679] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.679] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.680] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.681] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.681] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.682] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.682] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.683] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.684] Parsing float [LOG 14:57:32.684] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.685] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.685] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.686] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.686] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.687] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.687] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.688] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.689] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.689] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.690] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:32.751] *RSS* Fixing PCam. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [LOG 14:57:32.752] Fixed. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [EXC 14:57:32.784] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object [LOG 14:57:32.788] [scienceModule]: Activated (forced) [LOG 14:57:32.790] [scienceModule]: Activated (forced) [LOG 14:57:32.791] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF983FA][152.5]: OnStart: Flying [LOG 14:57:33.238] 11/26/2013 2:57:33 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Active Vessel unreadable - resetting inqueue flag [LOG 14:57:33.247] GUI Started? False [LOG 14:57:33.247] NP.OdinCapsule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:33.249] Odin OTV Command Capsule: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.5, 2.0, 2.5), LD (2.5, 2.5, 0.0), UD (1.0, 1.0, 0.0) Surface area: 10.82085 Fineness Ratio: 0.7950407 TaperRatio: 0.4192903 Cross Sectional Area: 4.794521 [LOG 14:57:33.251] scienceModule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:33.253] Science Laboratory: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.9, 3.5, 3.9), LD (2.9, 3.5, 0.0), UD (2.8, 3.3, 0.0) Surface area: 34.76226 Fineness Ratio: 1.026144 TaperRatio: 0.9384247 Cross Sectional Area: 9.106678 [LOG 14:57:33.585] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][152.53]: Constructor [LOG 14:57:33.587] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][152.53]: OnAwake in FLIGHT [LOG 14:57:33.588] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][152.53]: Adding LifeSupportController [LOG 14:57:33.589] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportController) [FFF96C5E][152.53]: Awake [LOG 14:57:33.595] TAC Icon [8E045180][152.5294]: Constructor: icon.png [LOG 14:57:33.599] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][152.53]: OnLoad: SCENARIO { name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Jebediah Kerman vesselId = d18534f1-cb90-4c4b-97e9-9369102678e7 lastUpdate = 683120380.797016 lastFood = 683120380.797016 lastWater = 683120380.797016 lastOxygen = 683120380.797016 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bill Kerman vesselId = d18534f1-cb90-4c4b-97e9-9369102678e7 lastUpdate = 683120380.797016 lastFood = 683120380.797016 lastWater = 683120380.797016 lastOxygen = 683120380.797016 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bob Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Ribgel Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Donbo Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Dunble Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } } } root { GlobalSettings { FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1 WaterConsumptionRate = 1 OxygenConsumptionRate = 1 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 1200 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 2400 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 200 CO2ProductionRate = 1 WasteProductionRate = 1 WasteWaterProductionRate = 1 DefaultResourceAmount = 86400 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 43200 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 2592000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 259200 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 7200 } Icon { xPos = 1442 yPos = 0 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 759 y = 389 width = 396 height = 468 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 20 width = 300 height = 300 } TACLifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 } } [WRN 14:57:33.615] File 'C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/kethane.cfg' does not exist [LOG 14:57:33.619] [Kethane] Loaded 1 resource definitions [WRN 14:57:33.678] Kethane deposits loaded (60ms) [LOG 14:57:37.056] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportController) [FFF96C5E][152.53]: Start [LOG 14:57:37.062] 11/26/2013 2:57:37 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Adding DrawGUI to PostRender Queue [LOG 14:57:37.063] 11/26/2013 2:57:37 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Skipping version check [LOG 14:57:37.357] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Untitled Space Craft [LOG 14:57:37.407] 11/26/2013 2:57:37 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Vessel Change from 'No Vessel' to 'Untitled Space Craft' [LOG 14:57:37.823] scienceModule is in atmosphere. Cannot save. [WRN 14:57:37.824] [FlightPersistence]: Vessel Untitled Space Craft Ship not saved because it wasn't clear to save: NOT_IN_ATMOSPHERE [LOG 14:57:37.826] Flight State Captured [LOG 14:57:37.827] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.828] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.828] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.829] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.830] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.830] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.831] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.832] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.832] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:57:37.839] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][152.93]: OnSave: SCENARIO { name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Jebediah Kerman vesselId = 21d8368e-64c2-493f-8f3d-4df663985cf0 lastUpdate = 683120436.196964 lastFood = 683120436.196964 lastWater = 683120436.196964 lastOxygen = 683120436.196964 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bill Kerman vesselId = 21d8368e-64c2-493f-8f3d-4df663985cf0 lastUpdate = 683120436.196964 lastFood = 683120436.196964 lastWater = 683120436.196964 lastOxygen = 683120436.196964 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bob Kerman vesselId = 21d8368e-64c2-493f-8f3d-4df663985cf0 lastUpdate = 683120436.196964 lastFood = 683120436.196964 lastWater = 683120436.196964 lastOxygen = 683120436.196964 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Ribgel Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Donbo Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Dunble Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } VesselInfo { Guid = 21d8368e-64c2-493f-8f3d-4df663985cf0 lastUpdate = 683120435.816964 lastElectricity = 683120435.816964 } } } root { GlobalSettings { FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1 WaterConsumptionRate = 1 OxygenConsumptionRate = 1 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 1200 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 2400 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 200 CO2ProductionRate = 1 WasteProductionRate = 1 WasteWaterProductionRate = 1 DefaultResourceAmount = 86400 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 43200 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 2592000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 259200 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 7200 } Icon { xPos = 1442 yPos = 0 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 759 y = 389 width = 396 height = 468 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 20 width = 300 height = 300 } TACLifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 } } [WRN 14:57:37.856] Kethane deposits saved (4ms) [LOG 14:57:37.994] Game State Saved as persistent [LOG 14:57:39.618] Game Paused! [LOG 14:57:39.620] Active Vessel is moving (sqrVel = 215840.35273989). Cannot save. [LOG 14:57:39.764] [Untitled Space Craft]: ground contact! - error: 0.139m [LOG 14:57:39.766] Unpacking Untitled Space Craft [LOG 14:57:43.103] [FlightDriver]: Flight State Reverted to Prelaunch. [LOG 14:57:43.240] Game State Saved as persistent [WRN 14:57:43.241] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From FLIGHT to EDITOR ===================== [LOG 14:57:43.526] 11/26/2013 2:57:43 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Scene Change from 'FLIGHT' to 'EDITOR' [LOG 14:57:44.212] 11/26/2013 2:57:44 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Removing DrawGUI from PostRender Queue [WRN 14:57:44.912] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:57:44.913] 11/26/2013 2:57:44 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Destroying the KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 14:57:44.915] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Kerbin [LOG 14:57:45.352] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.353] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.354] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.355] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.356] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.371] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:45.371] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:45.372] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:45.372] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:45.373] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:45.373] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:45.374] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:45.374] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:45.376] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.377] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.379] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.380] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:45.746] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF96C62][154.31]: OnDestroy [LOG 14:57:45.747] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportController) [FFF96C5E][154.31]: OnDestroy [WRN 14:57:47.072] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:57:47.497] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.498] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.499] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.500] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.501] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.516] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.516] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.517] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.517] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.518] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.518] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:47.519] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:47.519] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:47.520] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'FixMaxTemps' from assembly 'DeadlyReentry, Version=2.1.5053.514, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.521] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'FARGlobalControlEditorObject' from assembly 'FerramAerospaceResearch, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.524] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.525] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:47.525] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.526] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.526] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.527] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.527] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.528] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.528] Parsing rect [LOG 14:57:47.529] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:47.529] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:47.530] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:47.531] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:47.531] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:47.532] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:47.532] Parsing string [LOG 14:57:47.533] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonEditContainer' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.535] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'EditorScreenMessager' from assembly 'ProceduralFairings, Version=0.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.536] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.537] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.539] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'PartCatalogBehavior' from assembly 'PartCatalog, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:47.540] ****Loading PartCatalog**** [LOG 14:57:49.498] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.499] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.499] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.500] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.500] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.501] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.501] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.502] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.503] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.503] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.504] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.504] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.505] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.505] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.506] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.506] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.507] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.507] Parsing vector2 [LOG 14:57:49.508] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.509] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.509] Parsing vector2 [LOG 14:57:49.510] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.510] Parsing int [LOG 14:57:49.511] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.511] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.512] Parsing bool [LOG 14:57:49.513] ****Loaded PartCatalog**** [LOG 14:57:49.513] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:57:49.514] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' Creating and launch of a two-part ship, with science lab as root, and Odin command capsule attached: (This one was bug-free) [LOG 14:57:49.591] ------------------- initializing editor mode... ------------------ [LOG 14:57:49.592] editor started [ERR 14:57:49.823] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler [LOG 14:57:49.826] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF95E68][154.6645]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:49.835] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF95E24][154.6645]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:49.839] Untitled Space Craft loaded! [LOG 14:57:49.841] Untitled Space Craft - Untitled Space Craft [LOG 14:57:49.912] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF95E68][154.58]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:49.916] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF95E24][154.58]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:50.304] NP.OdinCapsule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:50.306] Odin OTV Command Capsule: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.5, 2.0, 2.5), LD (2.5, 2.5, 0.0), UD (1.0, 1.0, 0.0) Surface area: 10.82084 Fineness Ratio: 0.7950407 TaperRatio: 0.4192903 Cross Sectional Area: 4.794518 [LOG 14:57:50.307] scienceModule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:50.310] Science Laboratory: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.9, 3.5, 3.9), LD (2.9, 3.5, 0.0), UD (2.8, 3.3, 0.0) Surface area: 34.76223 Fineness Ratio: 1.026144 TaperRatio: 0.9384246 Cross Sectional Area: 9.10667 [LOG 14:57:52.172] deleting part scienceModule [LOG 14:57:52.174] deleting part NP.OdinCapsule [LOG 14:57:56.561] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF922DC][159.84]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:56.565] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF922DC][159.84]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:56.568] scienceModule(Clone) (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:56.571] Science Laboratory: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.9, 3.5, 3.9), LD (2.9, 3.5, 0.0), UD (2.8, 3.3, 0.0) Surface area: 34.76223 Fineness Ratio: 1.026144 TaperRatio: 0.9384246 Cross Sectional Area: 9.10667 [ERR 14:57:58.541] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler [LOG 14:57:58.544] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF912E4][161.8191]: OnAwake [LOG 14:57:58.544] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF912E4][161.8191]: OnStart: Editor [LOG 14:57:59.592] NP.OdinCapsule(Clone) (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:57:59.594] Odin OTV Command Capsule: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.5, 2.0, 2.5), LD (2.5, 2.5, 0.0), UD (1.0, 1.0, 0.0) Surface area: 10.82084 Fineness Ratio: 0.7950407 TaperRatio: 0.4192903 Cross Sectional Area: 4.794518 [LOG 14:58:00.081] NP.OdinCapsule(Clone) added to ship - part count: 2 [LOG 14:58:00.082] stage count is: 0 [LOG 14:58:01.302] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for NoControlSources: PASS! [LOG 14:58:01.303] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for NoCrewInMannedVessel: PASS! [LOG 14:58:01.304] [Pre-Flight Check]: Checking for LaunchSiteClear: PASS! [LOG 14:58:01.304] [Pre-Flight Check]: All Checks Complete. Go for Launch! [LOG 14:58:01.306] Launching vessel from LaunchPad. Craft file: C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [LOG 14:58:01.451] Game State Saved as persistent [WRN 14:58:01.452] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From EDITOR to FLIGHT ===================== [WRN 14:58:02.257] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:58:02.692] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.693] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.695] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.696] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.697] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.711] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:02.712] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:02.712] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:02.713] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:02.713] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:02.714] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:02.714] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:02.715] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:02.716] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.718] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.719] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.720] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:02.848] *RSS* Fixing PCam. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [LOG 14:58:02.849] Fixed. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [WRN 14:58:04.494] [Kethane] Saving settings [LOG 14:58:04.905] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CityLights' from assembly 'CityLights, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.906] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Clouds' from assembly 'Clouds, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.907] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'Utils' from assembly 'CommonUtils, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.908] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TextureCompressor' from assembly 'TextureCompressor, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.909] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ManifestBehaviour' from assembly 'CrewManifest, Version=0.5.5.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.923] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.924] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.924] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.925] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.926] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.926] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:04.927] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:04.927] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:04.928] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ReentryPhysics' from assembly 'DeadlyReentry, Version=2.1.5053.514, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.929] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'FARGlobalControlFlightObject' from assembly 'FerramAerospaceResearch, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.932] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.932] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:04.933] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.934] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.934] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.935] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.935] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.936] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.936] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:04.937] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:04.937] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:04.938] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:04.938] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:04.939] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:04.940] Parsing int [LOG 14:58:04.940] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:04.941] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonPointer' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.942] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonControlKey' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.944] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonDebugTools' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.945] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KASAddonWinchGUI' from assembly 'KAS, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.946] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KerbalJointReinforcement' from assembly 'KerbalJointReinforcement, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.947] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'ScaledSpaceFix' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.949] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'MapOverlay' from assembly 'MMI_Kethane, Version=1.0.5071.688, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.950] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'chatterer' from assembly 'chatterer, Version=0.5.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [WRN 14:58:04.989] [CHATR] dir: russian has 0 capcom clips [LOG 14:58:04.998] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'CameraFixer' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:04.999] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'SSTChecker' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:05.000] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'AFGEditor' from assembly 'RealSolarSystem, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:05.001] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'TransmitterSafety' from assembly 'StationScience, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:05.003] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon component 'KACFlight' from assembly 'KerbalAlarmClock, Version=2.6.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' [LOG 14:58:05.004] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Awakening the KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 14:58:05.005] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Textures [LOG 14:58:05.066] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loaded Textures [LOG 14:58:05.067] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Config [LOG 14:58:05.069] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.070] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.070] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.071] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.071] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.072] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.073] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.073] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.074] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.074] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.075] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.075] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.076] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.076] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.077] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.077] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.078] Parsing rect [LOG 14:58:05.078] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.079] Parsing int [LOG 14:58:05.080] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.080] Parsing int [LOG 14:58:05.081] Parsing int [LOG 14:58:05.081] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.082] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.082] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.083] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.083] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.084] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.084] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.085] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.085] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.086] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.087] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.087] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.088] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.088] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.089] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.089] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.090] Parsing int [LOG 14:58:05.090] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:05.091] Parsing double [LOG 14:58:05.091] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.092] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:05.093] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Trying New Alarms file... [LOG 14:58:05.095] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,AlarmsFileVersion:3 [LOG 14:58:05.096] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Config Loaded Successfully [LOG 14:58:05.097] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Loading Transfer Modelling Data [LOG 14:58:05.151] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Transfer Modelling Data Load Complete [LOG 14:58:05.152] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Invoking Worker Function KerbalAlarmClock-KACFlight [LOG 14:58:05.152] 0.1 [LOG 14:58:05.153] 11/26/2013 2:58:05 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Setting up repeating Behaviour(BehaviourUpdate) every 0.10 Secs [LOG 14:58:05.210] ------------------- initializing flight mode... ------------------ [LOG 14:58:05.569] Loading ship from file: C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/Ships/VAB/Auto-Saved Ship.craft [LOG 14:58:05.580] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF90F72][165.0055]: OnAwake [WRN 14:58:05.581] Part scienceModule_4294517482 cannot load module #5. It only has 5 modules defined [ERR 14:58:05.590] Cannot find fx group of that name for decoupler [LOG 14:58:05.593] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF90ED6][165.0055]: OnAwake [WRN 14:58:05.594] Part NP.OdinCapsule_4294513404 cannot load module #9. It only has 9 modules defined [LOG 14:58:05.596] Untitled Space Craft loaded! [LOG 14:58:08.104] putting ship to ground: 3.279588 [LOG 14:58:08.105] [Untitled Space Craft]: Ready to Launch - waiting to start physics... [LOG 14:58:08.107] Crewmember Jebediah Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 0 (crew seat index: 0) [LOG 14:58:08.108] Crewmember Bill Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 1 (crew seat index: 1) [LOG 14:58:08.108] Crewmember Bob Kerman assigned to Odin OTV Command Capsule, seat # 2 (crew seat index: 2) [LOG 14:58:08.109] [FLIGHT GLOBALS]: Switching To Vessel Untitled Space Craft ---------------------- [LOG 14:58:08.110] setting new dominant body: Kerbin FlightGlobals.mainBody: Kerbin [LOG 14:58:08.111] Reference Frame: Rotating [LOG 14:58:08.140] stage manager resuming... [LOG 14:58:08.141] Vessel assembly complete! [LOG 14:58:08.142] stage manager starting... [LOG 14:58:08.142] all systems started [LOG 14:58:08.156] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:08.156] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:08.157] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:08.157] Parsing bool [LOG 14:58:08.158] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.158] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.159] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.159] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.160] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.160] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.161] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.161] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.162] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.163] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.163] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.164] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.164] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.165] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.165] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.166] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.166] Parsing float [LOG 14:58:08.167] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.168] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.168] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.169] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.169] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.170] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.170] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.171] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.171] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.172] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.172] Parsing string [LOG 14:58:08.233] *RSS* Fixing PCam. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [LOG 14:58:08.233] Fixed. Min 10, Max 1E+10. Start 600, zoom 1.2 [LOG 14:58:08.247] [scienceModule]: Activated (forced) [LOG 14:58:08.248] [scienceModule]: Activated (forced) [LOG 14:58:08.248] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportModule) [FFF90F72][164.92]: OnStart: PreLaunch, Landed [EXC 14:58:08.251] NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object [LOG 14:58:08.676] 11/26/2013 2:58:08 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Active Vessel unreadable - resetting inqueue flag [LOG 14:58:08.677] scienceModule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:58:08.679] Science Laboratory: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.9, 3.5, 3.9), LD (2.9, 3.5, 0.0), UD (2.8, 3.3, 0.0) Surface area: 34.76226 Fineness Ratio: 1.026144 TaperRatio: 0.9384247 Cross Sectional Area: 9.106678 [LOG 14:58:08.682] GUI Started? False [LOG 14:58:08.683] NP.OdinCapsule (Part): -1 FULL [LOG 14:58:08.684] Odin OTV Command Capsule: FAR drag model added; Size: (2.5, 2.0, 2.5), LD (2.5, 2.5, 0.0), UD (1.0, 1.0, 0.0) Surface area: 10.82085 Fineness Ratio: 0.7950406 TaperRatio: 0.4192902 Cross Sectional Area: 4.794521 [LOG 14:58:08.994] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][165.01]: Constructor [LOG 14:58:08.996] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][165.01]: OnAwake in FLIGHT [LOG 14:58:08.997] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][165.01]: Adding LifeSupportController [LOG 14:58:08.998] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportController) [FFF8F7C0][165.01]: Awake [LOG 14:58:09.003] TAC Icon [B2B3F780][165.0055]: Constructor: icon.png [LOG 14:58:09.007] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][165.01]: OnLoad: SCENARIO { name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Jebediah Kerman vesselId = d18534f1-cb90-4c4b-97e9-9369102678e7 lastUpdate = 683120380.797016 lastFood = 683120380.797016 lastWater = 683120380.797016 lastOxygen = 683120380.797016 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bill Kerman vesselId = d18534f1-cb90-4c4b-97e9-9369102678e7 lastUpdate = 683120380.797016 lastFood = 683120380.797016 lastWater = 683120380.797016 lastOxygen = 683120380.797016 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bob Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Ribgel Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Donbo Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Dunble Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } } } root { GlobalSettings { FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1 WaterConsumptionRate = 1 OxygenConsumptionRate = 1 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 1200 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 2400 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 200 CO2ProductionRate = 1 WasteProductionRate = 1 WasteWaterProductionRate = 1 DefaultResourceAmount = 86400 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 43200 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 2592000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 259200 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 7200 } Icon { xPos = 1442 yPos = 0 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 759 y = 389 width = 396 height = 468 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 20 width = 300 height = 300 } TACLifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 } } [WRN 14:58:09.018] File 'C:/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/Kerbal Space Program/KSP_Data/../saves/Intersteller/kethane.cfg' does not exist [WRN 14:58:09.065] Kethane deposits loaded (45ms) [LOG 14:58:12.442] TAC Life Support (LifeSupportController) [FFF8F7C0][165.01]: Start [LOG 14:58:12.447] 11/26/2013 2:58:12 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Adding DrawGUI to PostRender Queue [LOG 14:58:12.448] 11/26/2013 2:58:12 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Skipping version check [LOG 14:58:12.727] [PlanetariumCamera]: Focus: Untitled Space Craft [LOG 14:58:12.749] 11/26/2013 2:58:12 PM,KerbalAlarmClock,Vessel Change from 'No Vessel' to 'Untitled Space Craft' [LOG 14:58:13.635] Flight State Captured [LOG 14:58:13.636] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.637] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.637] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.638] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.639] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.639] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.640] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.641] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.641] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:13.648] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][165.56]: OnSave: SCENARIO { name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Jebediah Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120436.396963 lastFood = 683120436.396963 lastWater = 683120436.396963 lastOxygen = 683120436.396963 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bill Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120436.396963 lastFood = 683120436.396963 lastWater = 683120436.396963 lastOxygen = 683120436.396963 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bob Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120436.396963 lastFood = 683120436.396963 lastWater = 683120436.396963 lastOxygen = 683120436.396963 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Ribgel Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Donbo Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Dunble Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } VesselInfo { Guid = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120436.396963 lastElectricity = 683120436.396963 } } } root { GlobalSettings { FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1 WaterConsumptionRate = 1 OxygenConsumptionRate = 1 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 1200 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 2400 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 200 CO2ProductionRate = 1 WasteProductionRate = 1 WasteWaterProductionRate = 1 DefaultResourceAmount = 86400 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 43200 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 2592000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 259200 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 7200 } Icon { xPos = 1442 yPos = 0 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 759 y = 389 width = 396 height = 468 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 20 width = 300 height = 300 } TACLifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 } } [WRN 14:58:13.662] Kethane deposits saved (2ms) [LOG 14:58:13.803] Game State Saved as persistent [LOG 14:58:15.352] [Untitled Space Craft]: ground contact! - error: 0.139m [LOG 14:58:15.352] Unpacking Untitled Space Craft [LOG 14:58:15.386] Stagnation Pressure Coefficient Curve Initialized [LOG 14:58:15.387] Stagnation Pressure Curve Initialized [LOG 14:58:22.829] Game Paused! [LOG 14:58:26.324] Game Unpaused! [WRN 14:58:26.325] Can not play a disabled audio source [LOG 14:58:26.797] Game Paused! [LOG 14:58:28.931] Flight State Captured [LOG 14:58:28.932] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.933] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.934] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.934] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.935] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.936] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.936] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.937] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.938] Saving Achievements Tree... [LOG 14:58:28.944] TAC Life Support (TacLifeSupport) [FFF8F7C2][174.72]: OnSave: SCENARIO { name = TacLifeSupport scene = 5, 7 SavedGameSettings { IsNewSave = False Enabled = True HibernateInsteadOfKill = False RespawnDelay = 9203545 CrewMemberInfo { name = Jebediah Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120445.556955 lastFood = 683120445.556955 lastWater = 683120445.556955 lastOxygen = 683120445.556955 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bill Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120445.556955 lastFood = 683120445.556955 lastWater = 683120445.556955 lastOxygen = 683120445.556955 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Bob Kerman vesselId = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120445.556955 lastFood = 683120445.556955 lastWater = 683120445.556955 lastOxygen = 683120445.556955 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Ribgel Kerman vesselId = 18deb7ea-4763-4c7d-bfb9-c9b89df01529 lastUpdate = 683120356.757038 lastFood = 683120356.757038 lastWater = 683120356.757038 lastOxygen = 683120356.757038 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Donbo Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } CrewMemberInfo { name = Dunble Kerman vesselId = c1951a1c-21ab-4019-a5d6-96280e5265cb lastUpdate = 602831085.894927 lastFood = 602831085.894927 lastWater = 602831085.894927 lastOxygen = 602831085.894927 } VesselInfo { Guid = eeb6f87f-873b-4360-ad88-bcb870363537 lastUpdate = 683120445.556955 lastElectricity = 683120445.556955 } } } root { GlobalSettings { FoodResource = Food WaterResource = Water OxygenResource = Oxygen CarbonDioxideResource = CarbonDioxide WasteResource = Waste WasteWaterResource = WasteWater FoodConsumptionRate = 1 WaterConsumptionRate = 1 OxygenConsumptionRate = 1 ElectricityConsumptionRate = 1200 BaseElectricityConsumptionRate = 2400 EvaElectricityConsumptionRate = 200 CO2ProductionRate = 1 WasteProductionRate = 1 WasteWaterProductionRate = 1 DefaultResourceAmount = 86400 EvaDefaultResourceAmount = 43200 MaxTimeWithoutFood = 2592000 MaxTimeWithoutWater = 259200 MaxTimeWithoutOxygen = 7200 MaxTimeWithoutElectricity = 7200 } Icon { xPos = 1442 yPos = 0 } TACLifeSupportSettings { visible = False x = 759 y = 389 width = 396 height = 468 } LifeSupportMonitoring { visible = False x = 810 y = 20 width = 300 height = 300 } TACLifeSupportCrewRoster { visible = False x = 800 y = 440 width = 320 height = 200 } } [WRN 14:58:28.958] Kethane deposits saved (2ms) [LOG 14:58:29.097] Game State Saved as persistent [WRN 14:58:29.098] [HighLogic]: =========================== Scene Change : From FLIGHT to SPACECENTER =====================

I encountered a strange bug. When I build a rocket which included the science lab, the game thinks that I am moving at over 1,000m/s when on the launch pad - complete with the supersonic shock graphics. It actually looks kinda funny. My other mods include: RSS Realism Overhaul FAR Reinforced Joints Universe Replacer Active memory reduction. + a bunch of part mods. But I have only seen this with the science lab from KSPI. Any ideas?

http://www.purdue.edu/impactearth Enjoy.

C̶a̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶o̶n̶e̶ ̶p̶l̶e̶a̶s̶e̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶l̶a̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶w̶h̶y̶ ̶g̶e̶n̶e̶r̶a̶l̶i̶z̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶s̶t̶e̶r̶e̶o̶t̶y̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶A̶m̶e̶r̶i̶c̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶i̶s̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶p̶o̶p̶u̶l̶a̶r̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶s̶i̶d̶e̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶U̶S̶A̶?̶ ̶ Eh, maybe you're right lol.

At the equator, the Earth's surface rotates at 1,670 km/h. The force of gravity is 9.8m/s/s. I haven't done the maths, but your moment acceleration caused by the Earth decelerating is at least 2 times greater than gravity. Meaning that you will continue to move despite 1G pulling you down. Not to mention the fact that that 1 g of acceleration is downward, and would have little to no effect on your horizontal vector. At a certain latitude, surface rotation will be less than 9.8m/s. Ignoring tectonic and atmospheric mayhem, gravity will be enough to hold you down at these latitudes. Standing on top of the true north poll is probably safe. At worst, you may lose your balance, provided the ground beneath you is able to withstand the enormous stress. Now if you were standing at the equator, and assuming the ground below you stays intact and ceases rotation with the Earth, you probably wouldn't just 'shoot' off at 1,670 km/h, or immediately die of deceleration. I don't think your feet will have the traction to transfer the full force of deceleration. And even if it did, you would be well under escape velocity. You would probably slip, with both legs broken, and then fall onto ground moving 1,670 km/h. Think of taking a spill on a motorcycle while going 1,670 km/h. You will be instantly ground into a puff of particles upon landing from your 'slip.' Now when you factor in air resistance, something else would happen. The air will continue to be moving relative to you. However, upon landing onto the 1,670km/h ground after you lost your balance, the force of the ground decelerating you via friction will be met by the force of air trying to keep you with it's flow - 1,670 km relative to ground. So while you being shredded by the earth, you will be superheated and compressed by the atmosphere. It may look similar to replacing a bullet with a cherry and then firing the shell.

^Right? I would definitely add Apollo 11 to that list. If I was protected by a time-traveler's force field (highly recommended for the safety-conscious time traveler who would rather avoid such unpleasantries as being burned at the stake by savages and natives for the crimes of witchcraft and sorcery) I would love to stand right under the Space Shuttle during launch, and bask in all of her 215dB glory. Here's a great short clip that somewhat captures the enormity of the sound: btw, you think nukes are bad for Global warming? just kidding.

This may sound strange, but I would love to go back and witness firsthand some nuclear weapon tests. This is undoubtedly the first thing I would do. Notably, Czar Bomba, Castle Bravo, Ivy Mike, Trinity, and operation Crossroads - in that order. I know nuclear weapons aren't exactly a good thing, but their power has captivated me since I was young and first saw a video clip of a test. Plus the physics are very interesting. This will also sound weird, but I would also want to travel back to WWI and WWII. I am fascinated by this period, and to see some of the battles first hand would be incredibly powerful (not good, or bad...just powerful). Specifically, I would want to observe the landings at D-day, the sinking of the Yamato and Bismark, the battle of the Coral Sea, and Java sea, the battle of Kursk, and El Alamein, and the Soviet encirclement of the 6th Army and 4th Panzer division at the conclusion of the battle of Stalingrad. WWI, I would only want to take a small peek, just to see the shock and awe of front-line trench warfare. I would be too depressed to stay any longer than a few minutes.

Fractal, I just put two and two together and realized that you are the creator of one of my favorite mods here. Definitely the most thought-out and immersive, especially for a nuke geek like myself. Now I feel silly for arguing. lol I'll take a closer look at your previous stance. I am definitely a skeptic though.... still trying to come to a conclusion on it - my mind is far from made. Just installed the update, so excuse me while I fire up KSP.

Hi, I had the same problem. None of the squad solar panels worked. I also have KSPI installed. Read this post Essentially, KSPI modifies the power curves as well. I followed his instructions of "deleting everything in the GameData/WarpPlugin/Additions folder." Now my Squad panels work just fine. But if you are using NKReal or NK's realism overhaul, make sure to bring enough panels! The production is low - especially out past Joolpiter. P.S. I just realized that KSPI was updated...I hope that fix still works. I would hate to tell Jebediah that the reason for his impending doom, and soon-to-be orbital coffin, is that I updated from 7.9 to 8.0. P.P.S. Just updated and the fix still works. Looks like Jebediah will live...for now.

I'm not cherry picking at all. My position is no conclusion one way or the other. I do not think Global warming is false any more than I think it is real. My point is that there is not enough evidence to make a conclusion one way or the other. 40 is better than 10. But that's a false dichotomy. I say both are insufficient. P.S. You sure about the models being in agreement? According to whom? I read otherwise. Google "global warming model" and see for yourself. Or read this: http://www.see.ed.ac.uk/~shs/Climate%20change/Climate%20model%20results/over%20estimate.pdf

^ So what you are saying is that skeptics form a conclusion from ~10 years trends, but realists form a conclusion from ~40 year trends? Kinda sounds the same to me. 40 years isn't much better than 10 on a geological climate timescale. Look at the scale of the Y axis. A whopping 0.5 degree difference. Without much larger context, I find it difficult to draw a conclusion. A 0.5 degree fluctuation over 42 years doesn't sound very conclusive to me. Especially without having a much longer period of data for comparison, and for establishing normative deviations.

^ Agreed. There is no need for name calling. Back on topic, I'm curious why those quoting my posts ignored the issue of Antarctic ice. If a model predicts a loss of ice, and instead it increases to record-high levels, does this not call the model's accuracy into question? You cannot ignore the inconvenient data, that is called conformation bias and it is a fallacious heuristic. And I am curious how you can deny that the Earth's temperatures have been stagnant the last 15 years. It literally takes 30 seconds on Google to verify this, not to mention the primary and secondary sources I posted. This isn't significant because it is a small blip in the trend, it is significant because the theoretical climate models, which are used to draw conclusions and predictions, completely failed to predict, or even account for this 15 year contradictory trend. My point is not that 15 years of stagnation disproves global warming, my point is that it invalidates the model upon which it depends. When you factor in this, and the increased Antarctic sea ice, I would think one would call into question the validity of said models. You mean like the, "it's been warm recently" argument by the same kind of people that say the cooling is just a fluctuation? <---This is why this sort of argument doesn't work well. It has no substance and can be applied in the affirmative or the negative by simply changing a couple of words. Sort of like how if you say to someone, "you're a stupid face," they can just as easily reply with, "nuh uh. You're the stupid face." Note: I am not calling you a stupid face lol

Ah, sorry, I should have striked-through instead of deleted. I wrote that I noticed the Bobcat engine problem too, and started to port them over, which I offered to send to yah. Then I saw that they were supported, but not configurable, so I stopped. I want to make them upgradable with tech level, so if you want that I can send it to yah....unless it is done officially. P.S. Is sharing a ported/tweaked .cfg even allowed? I'm not familiar with the licenses.. Maybe if done via ModuleManager if not? P.P.S. One advantage I have found with the miss-matched diameters is that it makes strutting upper stages, which typically use a smaller diameter motor, much easier. Of course the opposite is true when the motor is too large. Does the mismatch effect aerodynamics at all (using FAR), or is it purely aesthetic? If it does, would it effect both smaller and larger mismatches the same? I assume the smaller would have an effect only when changing vectors, but who knows...

Here's a time-travel paradox for you: If one were to travel backwards in time, would this not violate the conservation of matter? Wouldn't you in effect be adding mass to the Universe in the from of you and your machine? Unless something weird happens and it somehow becomes 'endothermic.' But still, that's quite a bit of energy that needs to be 'lost.' It would be like 1000kg or so of anti-matter/matter annihilation. Ooo. Maybe you would somehow create anti-matter by doing that? This is where my knowledge of physics ends . P.S. Maybe that is what dark matter is! A whole bunch of ill-fated time travelers.