Frozen_Heart Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 21 minutes ago, RoverDude said: What version of KSP? 1.3.0. Think that is the latest unless I missed something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExplorerKlatt Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Can you post a screenshot of you GameData and umbraspaceindustries folders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen_Heart Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ExplorerKlatt said: Can you post a screenshot of you GameData and umbraspaceindustries folders Ok here is the Game Data Folder. https://imgur.com/Y8pPS5b The USI Folder contains a single subfolder (Life Support). Inside that one is this. https://imgur.com/Nd595VC Note the actual parts are there and in game, so at least some of the mod is working. Edited October 2, 2017 by Frozen_Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbnu Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I have a quick question about habitation that I haven't been able to find an answer to. I built a spacecraft that included a living space section with far more than enough habitation for the crew on board. Everything went great until the end, when I ran into a problem. I had a return capsule with a heat shield and parachutes that jettisoned from the rest of the spacecraft for reentry. The instant I fired that stage, the crew inside the the capsule dropped from 160 days or so to 0 habitation and went on strike. Why does this happen? I understand that decoupling from the rest of the living space means I lose all the habitation benefits from those parts, but shouldn't it just go down to whatever the maximum hab time in the return capsule is? Thanks for the help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aelfhe1m Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 @Frozen_Heart Your're missing 000_USITools from GameData. It should have been included in the USI-LS zip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen_Heart Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Aelfhe1m said: @Frozen_Heart Your're missing 000_USITools from GameData. It should have been included in the USI-LS zip. Hmm odd. Extracted the whole thing into game data. Will redownload and see if i somehow ended up deleting the file. Thanks. Edit: That worked. I must have somehow deleted that file without ever seeing it was there. Edited October 3, 2017 by Frozen_Heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DStaal Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 13 hours ago, Orbnu said: I have a quick question about habitation that I haven't been able to find an answer to. I built a spacecraft that included a living space section with far more than enough habitation for the crew on board. Everything went great until the end, when I ran into a problem. I had a return capsule with a heat shield and parachutes that jettisoned from the rest of the spacecraft for reentry. The instant I fired that stage, the crew inside the the capsule dropped from 160 days or so to 0 habitation and went on strike. Why does this happen? I understand that decoupling from the rest of the living space means I lose all the habitation benefits from those parts, but shouldn't it just go down to whatever the maximum hab time in the return capsule is? Thanks for the help! If you launched it as one piece, and then staged the return capsule what likely happened is that KSP saw it as staging away the habitation: That is, you're still in the same ship, it's just smaller now. So you don't reset habitation like you would if you entered a new ship, instead you keep your current time-in-ship. (I think having docked the return capsule might have helped - but if it'd been docked long enough it might not have.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orbnu Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, DStaal said: If you launched it as one piece, and then staged the return capsule what likely happened is that KSP saw it as staging away the habitation: That is, you're still in the same ship, it's just smaller now. So you don't reset habitation like you would if you entered a new ship, instead you keep your current time-in-ship. (I think having docked the return capsule might have helped - but if it'd been docked long enough it might not have.) I see. Is there any way to stop this from happening? With this problem in mind, I'm not sure how to design a ship that travels far and does not stay in one big piece. Out of curiosity, if this is the case, how do other people go about making landers for ships on long-duration missions? Edit: I think I figured it out! DStaal, you were right, it seems to totally be about the staging. From what I've tested, it seems to be dependent on what the root of the spacecraft is. If the root of the craft had not been on the return capsule when I had staged, it would have counted as another spacecraft when it jettisoned and everything would have worked as expected. Edited October 3, 2017 by Orbnu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottielover Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 USI Tools is causing 1.3.1 to crash after the load screen just prior to the Menu screen coming up. I'm using ckan and noticed that after trying to install USI Life Support. So I used Ckan to install / uninstall things one at a time and finally narrowed it down to USI Tools, which is a dependency for a lot of things. I have the logs, but wanted to see if this was already a known issue with the latest update for KSP before I go doing a full on bug report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpsp Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 2 hours ago, rottielover said: USI Tools is causing 1.3.1 to crash after the load screen just prior to the Menu screen coming up. I'm using ckan and noticed that after trying to install USI Life Support. So I used Ckan to install / uninstall things one at a time and finally narrowed it down to USI Tools, which is a dependency for a lot of things. I have the logs, but wanted to see if this was already a known issue with the latest update for KSP before I go doing a full on bug report. Well none of the usi mods seem to have been updated to 1.3.1 yet so I wouldn't classify this as a bug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rottielover Posted October 7, 2017 Share Posted October 7, 2017 5 hours ago, goldenpsp said: Well none of the usi mods seem to have been updated to 1.3.1 yet so I wouldn't classify this as a bug CKAN is listing them as compatible with up to version 1.3.9 of KSP, I'm assuming to cover future versioning , anyone else able to reproduce this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted October 7, 2017 Author Share Posted October 7, 2017 hrm... will take a look, they should have been fine with pre-release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johould Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 What pre-release is that? My USITools.version says it is 0.9.3.0, and I'm seeing the same symptoms (crash just when the loading bar finishes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeschi Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 (edited) I am having the same problem since the new KSP Version 1.3.1? has come out. I was able to narrow it down to USI Life Support and or its dependencies. log says: mono.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005) in module mono.dll at 0033:e4ba0e18. Read from location 00000000 caused an access violation. Edited October 8, 2017 by faeschi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achengo3 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 i´ve the same problem with USI Tools since the last kerbal update. The game will crashed after loading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 Working on this now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panarchist Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 1 hour ago, RoverDude said: Working on this now Thanks for cranking that out! Looks great now, no more issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faeschi Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Thank you for the quick fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted October 8, 2017 Author Share Posted October 8, 2017 yw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzraelDR Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Thank you so much for the update, I love all your mods! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSPrynk Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 The life support tab was not coming up for me in the VAB when I upgraded to USI-LS 0.7.0.0 and MKS 0.53.0.0 with USITools 0.10.1.0 on KSP 1.3.1.1891. I resolved it by installing CCK 2.0.2. I recommend updating this and all relevant USI bundles. I've submitted an issue on the USI-LS GitHub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted October 9, 2017 Author Share Posted October 9, 2017 This is why USI Tools includes Mini-AVC, as it is non-trivial to publish the entire constellation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Quick question... I want to increase the Hab/Home timers to double their current values (so my basic 2-man pod can go for 14 days instead of 7). I've tried editing the BaseHabTime and the HabMultiplier values in both the USI-LS/Settings.cfg and MKS/Patches/USI-LS.cfg files, yet it doesn't seem to be taking effect in-game. Am I editing the wrong value or will it only apply to a newly launched ship? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenpsp Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Fourjays said: Quick question... I want to increase the Hab/Home timers to double their current values (so my basic 2-man pod can go for 14 days instead of 7). I've tried editing the BaseHabTime and the HabMultiplier values in both the USI-LS/Settings.cfg and MKS/Patches/USI-LS.cfg files, yet it doesn't seem to be taking effect in-game. Am I editing the wrong value or will it only apply to a newly launched ship? Thanks those are just the default settings. They are loaded into your persistent save file once you start a new game. You would want to edit the current save to change your current game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fourjays Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 21 hours ago, goldenpsp said: those are just the default settings. They are loaded into your persistent save file once you start a new game. You would want to edit the current save to change your current game Cheers, I found the options and it is working now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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