Someone just died in front of my house....

[HoloYolo]

So, I was launching an Apollo clone for testing, and I heard a scream. I saw a car flying away, and a guy on the sidewalk. The guy had been hit. His 2 girl friends screamed, and looked out my window. 3 people called an ambulance, and they got there in 5 minutes. Unfortunately, even with the help of my neighbor, Bill, he died. They're all still out there, I think they're trying to save his life. He is dead though. Very terrifying. I'm observing from my window. Whoever you were, rest in peace bro.

I'm not joking either.....

[Camacha]

I saw a car flying away

Did the car drive away? Did you see it? If so, be sure to report it to the police.

Things like these are never easy. Be sure to get proper help if you find it hard to deal with. It can influence you more than you would think.

[Starwhip]

Yeesh. That's got to be quite stressful... may this man rest in peace.

I remember when a car got flipped about fifty feet from our doorstep because it was t-boned by another speeding car. Paramedics arrived within moments, along with about 20 people, and they got the person out of the upside-down car very quickly.

The noise was unholy... you ever scratch your fingernails on a chalkboard? That, much lower in tone, much louder, plus tire screech and metal thudding and rolling.

[WinkAllKerb'']

160 000 people die each day (1,9/s) this doesn't take account of acarii, other animal and vegetal. (get used to it is the best advice i could usually give)

not need to joke or not it happen and that's all i believe ...

[HoloYolo]

160 000 people die each day (1' date='9/s) this doesn't take account of acarii, other animal and vegetal. (get used to it is the best advice i could usually give)

not need to joke or not it happen and that's all i believe ...[/quote']It's fine. I understand that you weren't joking.

[Randazzo]

If only Bob had been there instead.

...sorry.

[HoloYolo]

If only Bob had been there instead.

...sorry.

It's a joke, it's fine dude.

[Camacha]

It's a joke, it's fine dude.

So you say you were not joking, yet it is actually a joke?

[GeneCash]

Ugh. That sucks. Seeing someone die really messes with you.

I was riding home from work when someone on a really small dirtbike-type bike came screaming through traffic.

It was a 2-lane-each-way with a center turn lane. He tried to pass a truck by going around it in the turn lane... just as the truck swung over to get in the turn lane. I watched a rear wheel go right over the guy's head.

At first I kept going, thinking "serves the guy right, making me and all the other guys on a bike look bad" however I finally turned around to tell what I'd seen, so I could be sure the truck driver wasn't charged with any responsibility.

The driver was about as freaked out as he could be, and I hope I did help a little by being able to say "no, I saw it all happen and there was NOTHING you could have done to avoid it"

[Camacha]

At first I kept going, thinking "serves the guy right, making me and all the other guys on a bike look bad"

You actually saw a guy get crushed to a horrible death and that was your thought process? I hope that was some kind of shock reaction, because if not, you might need some help. I am not even being offensive.

[Randazzo]

You actually saw a guy get crushed to a horrible death and that was your thought process? I hope that was some kind of shock reaction, because if not, you might need some help. I am not even being offensive.

Perfectly human reaction, actually.

Do something stupid and the consequences are your own to bear. Except this guys stupidity potentially hurt a lot of other people, such as his family, the truck driver, and those who had to witness the outcome of his stupidity.

[Camacha]

Perfectly human reaction, actually.

Do something stupid and the consequences are your own to bear. Except this guys stupidity potentially hurt a lot of other people, such as his family, the truck driver, and those who had to witness the outcome of his stupidity.

I am actually pretty serious. If you see someone get killed before your eyes (and it is not some guy trying to kill you or something, but even then) in such a gruesome way and this is your response, you might actually have a lack of empathy on a pathological level. That is not a healthy and appropriate response within the wide range of suitable responses. Like I said, it might be purely because of shock, which diminishes your capacity to respond in a reasonable fashion, but if it is not I am seriously left to wonder what else is going on there.

And yes, the biker probably did something stupid. That is no reason to just shrug it off. A man died. That is a pretty major thing, no matter who's fault it turns out to be. If you can simply reason your way out of that it might very well be a sign something is seriously wrong.

[Randazzo]

I am actually pretty serious. If you see someone get killed before your eyes (and it is not some guy trying to kill you or something, but even then) in such a gruesome way and this is your response, you might actually have a lack of empathy on a pathological level. That is not a healthy and appropriate response within the wide range of suitable responses. Like I said, it might be purely because of shock, which diminishes your capacity to respond in a reasonable fashion, but if it is not I am seriously left to wonder what else is going on there.

And yes, the biker probably did something stupid. That is no reason to just shrug it off. A man died. That is a pretty major thing, no matter who's fault it turns out to be. If you can simply reason your way out of that it might very well be a sign something is seriously wrong.

I find this view naive, and I'll just leave it at that.

[Ethanadams]

sTOP FIGHTING A PERSON DIED AND YOUR AGURING OVER how one is sposed to feel everyone reacts to death differently from complete denial to absolute ptsd be respectuff as this shows us life is short and can end at any moment why fight?

[Camacha]

I find this view naive, and I'll just leave it at that.

Without explanation any judgement is totally void. It has no value whatsoever.

sTOP FIGHTING A PERSON DIED AND YOUR AGURING OVER how one is sposed to feel everyone reacts to death differently from complete denial to absolute ptsd be respectuff as this shows us life is short and can end at any moment why fight?

I am not fighting, I merely expressed my worry about the lack of an actual reaction.

[Randazzo]

sTOP FIGHTING A PERSON DIED AND YOUR AGURING OVER how one is sposed to feel everyone reacts to death differently from complete denial to absolute ptsd be respectuff as this shows us life is short and can end at any moment why fight?

Nobody is fighting.

Without explanation any judgement is totally void. It has no value whatsoever.

Your bait is obvious, but won't work. If you happen to actually be as compassionate as you're trying to portray yourself as, then it's not worth attacking that to prove my otherwise inconsequential point.

Edited May 15, 2015 by Randazzo

[Brethern]

I am actually pretty serious. If you see someone get killed before your eyes (and it is not some guy trying to kill you or something, but even then) in such a gruesome way and this is your response, you might actually have a lack of empathy on a pathological level. That is not a healthy and appropriate response within the wide range of suitable responses. Like I said, it might be purely because of shock, which diminishes your capacity to respond in a reasonable fashion, but if it is not I am seriously left to wonder what else is going on there.

And yes, the biker probably did something stupid. That is no reason to just shrug it off. A man died. That is a pretty major thing, no matter who's fault it turns out to be. If you can simply reason your way out of that it might very well be a sign something is seriously wrong.

Or maybe he's willing to move on with his life and not dwell on it. People are going to respond one of two ways to traumatic situations. They're going to curl into a fetal position and be useless for years afterwards or they're going to move on and live their life.

[Camacha]

Or maybe he's willing to move on with his life and not dwell on it. People are going to respond one of two ways to traumatic situations. They're going to curl into a fetal position and be useless for years afterwards or they're going to move on and live their life.

That is (somewhat) true for the longer term, but we are talking about the moment of the accident itself and right after. There is a vast difference between not dwelling on something and driving on like nothing ever happened

[HoloYolo]

That is (somewhat) true for the longer term, but we are talking about the moment of the accident itself and right after. There is a vast difference between not dwelling on something and driving on like nothing ever happened

If I saw the head crushing accident, I would be traumatized of bikes and never go near on again. Seriously, you saw a guy GET HIS HEAD CRUSHED ON A BIKE. One of those things you can never forget.

[Brethern]

That is (somewhat) true for the longer term, but we are talking about the moment of the accident itself and right after. There is a vast difference between not dwelling on something and driving on like nothing ever happened

And what you're supposed to break down and start sobbing because some random person died?

[Camacha]

And what you're supposed to break down and start sobbing because some random person died?

It almost seems that you are purposefully misinterpreting my words, but I do not mind explaining once more. People respond in different ways. Some just break down, some feel the need to share their story (which is probably why this thread exists), while others need to distract themselves. However, not responding or processing the the whole deal, of which even a stranger dying is a pretty big one, hardly seems like a healthy coping strategy. Maybe you cannot even call it that, as people are not coping.

The fact that I have to explain the discord between a fairly major event happing in front of your eyes and having little to no emotional response scares me a bit. Maybe I can illuminate my point a little better with someone else's story. Both reacting excessively (like PTSD soldiers overreacting to fireworks) or not at all to major events can be signs that something is wrong.

While appearing on Inside the Actors Studio in 2006, Laurie discussed his struggle with severe clinical depression. He continues to receive regular treatment from a psychotherapist. He told host James Lipton that he first concluded he had a problem whilst driving in a charity demolition derby, during which he realised that seeing two cars collide and explode in front of him caused him to be neither excited nor frightened, but bored. "Boredom," he commented, "is not an appropriate response to exploding cars."

Source.

[Vanamonde]

Something upsetting happened, and a forum member needed to vent about it. Please don't go psychoanalyzing and criticizing each other over it. Time to move on to other discussions.