Please quit necro-posting!!!

[sal_vager]

Hey if I can figure a way to do it I'd love to, vBulletin isn't exactly forthcoming with decent documentation.

Edit:

I think this needs a plugin.

Edited May 17, 2015 by sal_vager

[ZooNamedGames]

Hey if I can figure a way to do it I'd love to, vBulletin isn't exactly forthcoming with decent documentation.

Edit:

I think this needs a plugin.

I'm a (somewhat) decent longstanding member of this fantastic community- can I help you with Sal?

[sal_vager]

Well, there's no built-in vBulletin feature to warn posters when replying to old posts, but if anyone does know of or can find a plugin that offers necroposting options I can see if Adrian would install it, though also we're supposed to be switching to another forum software, so it's not likely to be high priority when the moderators can close threads as required.

[TheCanadianVendingMachine]

I know the Bis Forums (For ARMA) has something:

and unless if this is fake

I think there's a plugin

[sal_vager]

Looks like you're right.

Prevent bumping old threads plugin.

Prevent thread bumping.

I'll pass it along, but it may not work in the current vB.

Edited May 17, 2015 by sal_vager

[moronwrocket]

I, for one, will post to this thread exactly every 1.9995 months to make sure it stays alive.

[Sampa]

Seriously, in the last month the amount of Necroposts has gotten redicuous. "Necroposting" is when a user post on a thread that is "dead". This is against the forums rules as per 2.2. So I've devised this for players to refer to before posting on a thread.

If the thread is over 2 months old- please do NOT respond! The thread is DEAD. Leave it ALONE and DO NOT post unless the thread owner has done so within 2 days prior.

If you used the forum's built in search feature and or altered the order of listing on the forums then please, find the last post on that thread and see if it a abides by the forementioned rule.

If you feel the thread should be "revived" or brought back- then please ask the thread owner BEFORE posting! If the thread isn't worth doing this then it isn't worth reviving!

If the thread says its "closed" by the thread owner, but isn't locked then please listen to the owner and DO NOT post on that thread!!

If your trying to solve someone's technical problem with KSP prior to 2015, ignore the thread and do not respond. The problem they had is more than likely solved by the time you find it. There is nothing more annoying than reading someone's comment from 1.0 to a person who was playing in .18.

If your posting on a thread of a mod for KSP, then please check if the thread has been moved!!! Mods can change hands and or be moved to new threads for various reasons. So we ask that you understand this and do NOT post on the original thread.

I hope you find this enlightening. I will be adding to it as time goes on and if you have problems with it let me know. This is just my PSA for the day.

I might suggest a slight rewording... change thread to last post. Who cares if a thread is 2 months old if people are still active in it! If it's last post in a thread is two months old, then it has more meaning

[ZooNamedGames]

I might suggest a slight rewording... change thread to last post. Who cares if a thread is 2 months old if people are still active in it! If it's last post in a thread is two months old, then it has more meaning

I don't get your meaning... And the only meaning I'm getting is one that proves me already present point.

[Endersmens]

He means, a thread can be over 2 months old, as in it was started 2 months ago. He meant you should change "If the thread is 2 months old..." to "If the last post is 2 months old..."

[ZooNamedGames]

He means, a thread can be over 2 months old, as in it was started 2 months ago. He meant you should change "If the thread is 2 months old..." to "If the last post is 2 months old..."

Fixed.

[Endersmens]

It says "2-"

Think the "-" is supposed to be "months"

[ZooNamedGames]

It says "2-"

Think the "-" is supposed to be "months"

All better?

[Endersmens]

All better?

All good! Sorry about being a pain.

[ZooNamedGames]

All good! Sorry about being a pain.

It's ok man.. It needed to be said!

[longbyte1]

Looks like you're right.

Prevent bumping old threads plugin.

Prevent thread bumping.

I'll pass it along, but it may not work in the current vB.

I've never used or installed vB on my own web server, but I am usually very disappointed by the small number of plugins available in the forum.

The reason why there are so few plugins is because most forum admins usually either pay money to a company to have these features added in or just hack in support themselves (since it's just PHP).

[Fel]

Seriously, in the last month the amount of Necroposts has gotten redicuous. "Necroposting" is when a user post on a thread that is "dead". This is against the forums rules as per 2.2. So I've devised this for players to refer to before posting on a thread.

2.2 is a general "don't be rude, don't spam, and don't talk about things that start fights / are illegal"

2.5 Necroposting and Necromoaning

Posting in a thread that has not received a new message in a defined span of three months is known as “necropostingâ€Â. Necroposting is often frowned upon but not forbidden provided that your post does not break the other rules in this post, most notably rule 2.3a.

2.3a says

Messages that contain no meaningful content, such as "like" “+1â€Â, “Bump†or any variation on the type of message that is used to needlessly boost threads and/or keep post counts up;

Which is highly discretionary. Posting in a "dead" plugin how someone should revive it MAY fall under this category; but 30 people making 30 different threads over the same issue is also not wanted.

Leave it ALONE and DO NOT post unless the thread owner has done so within 2 days prior.

If you feel the thread should be "revived" or brought back- then please ask the thread owner BEFORE posting! If the thread isn't worth doing this then it isn't worth reviving!

If the thread says its "closed" by the thread owner, but isn't locked then please listen to the owner and DO NOT post on that thread!!

You don't "own" threads. Moderation is willing to lock threads you created at request, but you have no "ownership" as for what content can or cannot be posted in said thread. If someone "necros" one of your threads, you can only request that the thread be locked, you cannot request that the offending post be deleted because you "own" the thread.

Furthermore, this idea of "ownership" implies that the content of the thread is purely for your benefit. Other people may find the information in the thread useful for their own means and use said information to their own means or otherwise restart the conversation in your absence. Again, you do not own threads; the "community" owns them, SQUAD just moderates them.

If your trying to solve someone's technical problem with KSP prior to 2015, ignore the thread and do not respond. The problem they had is more than likely solved by the time you find it. There is nothing more annoying than reading someone's comment from 1.0 to a person who was playing in .18.

Most cases, sure; the posts aren't that meaningful. But what is more annoying, people helping those who don't need help... or people being too afraid of being pounced on to actually lend their experience to help someone out? A gentle reminder, rather than a necromoan, is what is needed to keep the community healthy.

The solution here is to report your post after you receive the help you want rather than leave help requests open.

I may also add, "you do not own the thread"; in some instances, someone trying to find a solution to a present problem may come across a "resolved as unfixable" help request. Using such a thread as an announcement for the fix you found is just as valid as spamming "PSA: I fixed something!!!" in different parts of the forum.

If your posting on a thread of a mod for KSP, then please check if the thread has been moved!!! Mods can change hands and or be moved to new threads for various reasons. So we ask that you understand this and do NOT post on the original thread.

99.9% of the time, the old thread has a request for a lock. Why did you bring this up?

- - - Updated - - -

Less than 20k views combined from all sections.

I count, using mental math, ~60k from ALL sections excluding announcements and Add-on-Development. Add-on-Development has 10k, with 20k views on plugin release rules. Announcements counts 44,378 views, but all those posts are linked here.

Edited May 18, 2015 by Fel

[sjwt]

Please people..

Other forum rules include no backseat moderation i.e. telling others what rules apply or whats going to happen when they break them, and generally nasty toned messages

Let's all play nice now.

[vexx32]

Aye, I think that's quite enough. We will deal with any and all necroposting that should occur as it happens, and we will determine amongst ourselves what the best action to take will be. It may be an annoyance to you, but in truth the best thing you can do if you see someone necroposting and/or breaking rules is always just to report it and move on, so that we can deal with it as quickly as we are able with a minimum of fuss.

[rtxoff]

I don't understand the big deal about necro posting. I mean yeah it's forbidden by the rules but why is this? I don't understand how someone gets offended by it. I mean there are by far worse things out there then necros. If someone has something to say even in an old thread then IMO it should be allowed if it's not a bump.

[vexx32]

It's not really forbidden by the rules, but yeah.

Generally it's considered a bad thing because a lot of the time it ends up simply bringing very old (and usually no longer useful or relevant) threads to the top of the forum listing, which in turn has the effect of hiding some newer threads that would otherwise be displayed instead. If they legitimately have something to add, then we won't penalise them for it, of course.

Most necroposting, however, is done to ask a simple question that could be answered in a few moments in its own thread without bringing a massive 50-page thread back to the front page that is over six months old. As a result, we often find it best to lock these threads to avoid confusion where conflicting information might be presented from an old thread v.s. newer threads on similar subjects.

[Sky_walker]

I don't think it's a bad thing.

I'd much rather have old threads necroed than a new threads created and the same arguments repeated over and over again.

[smjjames]

I don't understand the big deal about necro posting. I mean yeah it's forbidden by the rules but why is this? I don't understand how someone gets offended by it. I mean there are by far worse things out there then necros. If someone has something to say even in an old thread then IMO it should be allowed if it's not a bump.

It's not so much forbidden as it being bad forum etiquette in general.

[Red Iron Crown]

Seriously, in the last month the amount of Necroposts has gotten redicuous. "Necroposting" is when a user post on a thread that is "dead". This is against the forums rules as per 2.2. So I've devised this for players to refer to before posting on a thread.

If the thread has not gotten a post after 2 months- please do NOT respond! The thread is DEAD. Leave it ALONE and DO NOT post unless the thread owner has done so within 2 days prior.

Perhaps you should review the rule in question (I'll quote its entirety):

2.5 Necroposting and Necromoaning

Posting in a thread that has not received a new message in a defined span of three months is known as “necropostingâ€Â. Necroposting is often frowned upon but not forbidden provided that your post does not break the other rules in this post, most notably rule 2.3a. These threads may be closed at the discretion of the staff.

Additionally, methods that draw attention to a necropost in such a manner as to shame the poster are also frowned upon and this is known as Necromoaning, Necromoaning posts are also subject to removal under rule 2.3a.

It is quite clear that posting to an old thread is not against the rules in and of itself. If a new post to an old thread is both relevant and adds new content, then there is nothing wrong with it and it won't be moderated.

If you used the forum's built in search feature and or altered the order of listing on the forums then please, find the last post on that thread and see if it a abides by the forementioned rule.

If you feel the thread should be "revived" or brought back- then please ask the thread owner BEFORE posting! If the thread isn't worth doing this then it isn't worth reviving!

If the thread says its "closed" by the thread owner, but isn't locked then please listen to the owner and DO NOT post on that thread!!

I hate to burst your bubble here, but there is no such thing as a "thread owner". Threads belong to the community as a whole, not any one individual. We'll often lock a thread at the request of the OP, or delete a thread which has no replies at the request of the OP, but these are courtesies and not guaranteed rights.

[lajoswinkler]

I'm sick of people misusing this term. Necroposting means bringing back threads with USELESS content.

If one has some decent new information that would be useful for others, it's not necroposting.

I don't know who started misusing the term, but I get a small seizure when someone posts something useful and there's a bunch of kids screaming: "NECRO!!1!!OMG1BBQ1!"

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