(Steam) Achievements!

[vipelierre100]

Hello everyone

I'm here to talk about something that is, for me, a massive missing feature: the Steam Achievements!

I play KSP since the 0.23 and I always felt that a milestone indicator was missing. The Contracts changed it a little bit, but the "Explore Planet" contract always standed at the end of all my current contracts...

So, my idea is to implement Steam achievements (in career or in sandbox, no matter), so we have a milestone to beat and we can show to our friends that "wow i made a docking" or "I MADE IT TO EVE AND BACK!!!!" etc etc... and we can show this on the Steam Profile and see the statistics.

(And please, don't tell me "THERE'S A MOD FOR IT" because the mod doesn't show you achievements on Steam)

Thanks for Reading! I hope Squad will see this and make it!

PS: sorry for my possibly bad English, it's not my primary language

Edited May 18, 2015 by vipelierre100

[arkie87]

Hello everyone

I'm here to talk about something that is, for me, a massive missing feature: the Steam Achievements!

I play KSP since the 0.23 and I always felt that a milestone indicator was missing. The Contracts changed it a little bit, but the "Explore Planet" contract always standed at the end of all my current contracts...

So, my idea is to implement Steam achievements (in career or in sandbox, no matter), so we have a milestone to beat and we can show to our friends that "wow i made a docking" or "I MADE IT TO EVE AND BACK!!!!" etc etc... and we can show this on the Steam Profile and see the statistics.

(And please, don't tell me "THERE'S A MOD FOR IT" because the mod doesn't show you achievements on Steam)

Thanks for Reading! I hope Squad will see this and make it!

PS: sorry for my possibly bad English, it's not my primary language

Almost positive this is WNTS

[vipelierre100]

no.

it isn't in the list

read it yourself before posting anything you aren't aware of here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36863-What-not-to-suggest

[sal_vager]

Steam achievements are very unlikely, for the same reasons that Workshop support is unlikely.

Too many players have KSP from places other than Steam.

KSP is now available on the Squad store, Good old Games and Amazon, all these players would be locked out of Steam achievements and Workshop.

Not only that, but achievements are a poor way to add longevity and are often considered to make games less fun, as the games become more about getting all the achievements rather than gameplay.

Also, achievements that are too easy to get are valueless, there's nothing "achieved" by such basic things as getting wood in Minecraft for example, while achievements that are too hard leave players dissatisfied with their < 100% completion statistic, and turn games into a grindfest just to max out a number.

KSP instead gives players a real feeling of accomplishment when they reach personal milestones such as getting to orbit, landing on the Mun and getting their Kerbals back alive, these can be shared with other players using pics and forum posts, or excited talk in the schoolyard or office, instead of being cheapened by just being another icon on a stats screen.

I personally think KSP is a better game for not jumping on the achievement bandwagon, and instead actually letting players set their own goals.

[vipelierre100]

Ok thanks for the explanation!

[KrazyKrl]

Maxmaps has a quote from an AmA on reddit.

"We agree with Klei on achievements limiting sandbox experiences by becoming checklists the player needs to cross out before they have completed the game. I personally love achievements in a lot of games, but they don't fit KSP."

I highly doubt achievements will be implemented in stock.

[Tex_NL]

no.

it isn't in the list

read it yourself before posting anything you aren't aware of here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36863-What-not-to-suggest

Well, it should be as this has been suggested and discussed to death. Which you could have known if you had done a proper forum search.

[arkie87]

no.

it isn't in the list

read it yourself before posting anything you aren't aware of here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/36863-What-not-to-suggest

Some might interpret steam workshop as including steam achievements. The devs dont want the game to require steam, which they have said multiple times.

[r4pt0r]

Jokes on the non-steam users, I have a KSP steam background and a few KSP steam trading cards, AND the Kerbal card from the 2013 steam summer sale

Oh, and a kerbal emoticon for steam chat

[KSK]

"This is Billy-Bob Kerman at KNN reporting confirmation from Mission Control. The lander hatch is open, the ladder - my apologies, the personal mobility enhancer - is deployed. Here he comes now! Jebediah Kerman is coming into view, letting go of the lad.. and stepping onto the Mun! And now we're just waiting for those first historic words from the Munar surface..."

"Achievement unlocked - Mun Landing!"

"Achievement unlocked - Munwalker!"

"Achievement unlocked - Saluting the flag!"

Urghhh. No thanks.

More seriously - what Sal_vager said. Also, the Challenges sub-forum provides an unofficial Achievement list of sorts, if you're looking for new stuff to do.

[Murph]

I vote NO! on this. Steam achievements are worthless. They would also be meaningless for KSP, since people could just cheat their way to 100% achievements in about 10 minutes flat, and it's absolutely not worth the development time to create a way to have achievements that are uncheatable, when easy ability to cheat is actually a very positive feature for KSP.

[katateochi]

I'd also strongly vote No on this!

- KSP is a very immersive game, I think that achievement popups would break that.

- A lot of youtubers make cinematic vids, an achievement popup could ruin a take.

- Achievements would only apply to the most basic things, in KSP you set your own crazy goals and most of those are player specific and would be difficult/impossible for an achievement system to recognize.

[Joonatan1998]

No steam achievements, many KSP players don't have it on steam. (and steam is terrible)

Non-steam achievements could work, but they would have to be very basic "complete first interplanetary transfer", like a tutorial. Not "grind 100000000000 funds" of "launch your first vessel" or "land on all planets".

Edited May 19, 2015 by Joonatan1998

[One Wheeled Panda]

Also, achievements that are too easy to get are valueless, there's nothing "achieved" by such basic things as getting wood in Minecraft for example

I feel stronlgy reminded of Double Fines Broken Age... The Achivements annoyed me, even though they are probably meant ironically.

[Sky_walker]

No achievements, no steam workshop, no locking the game down to Steam, please.

[Guest]

Steam achievements implementation would take a work effort and time better spent elsewhere. Even if devs could find some equivalent for non-Steam users.

KSP have a lot of issues, that needs to be solved first. From memory crashes to near-absent sounds. From empty planets to empty ... erm .. space. From stupid science system to strange tech tree.

Anytime soon, devs have a lot of things to do. Achievements would never get out of the "somewhere in the far future" pit.

[raidernick]

Achievements in general are worthless, steam achievements even more so. If you need an achievement to feel good about yourself you need to rethink your life.

[Noetigenfalls]

Yes please!

Achievements are a feature I would greatly enjoy in KSP. I could picture an addition, that lists your accomplishments inside KSP, as medals, trophies, ribbons or alike. Id think of that as an enhancement of the experience rather than a limitation. And of course a little checkbox in the options dialog to disable it for everyone concerned about immersion.

To round it off those (KSP) Achievements could trigger the corresponding achievements for Steam-users as myself, nobody is left out.

Its just a feature request, undoubtedly there are many more request equally or more important still requiring a lot of manpower, but for me it would mean a major improvement to an already awesome game.

I've already had a considerable amount of fun hunting for meaningless, ridiculous and crazy achievements, some alone, mostly with friends, inside and outside the Steam platform. And I promise to rethink my life, if this feature is implemented. But until then, THUMBS UP for achievements! The game just calls for it.

[basic.syntax]

I'm against spending time on Steam achievements, in general. But, the "Worlds First" records / contracts, are an in-game form of Achievements, and you can see the list of those accomplishments in the Mission Control building / Archives tab (completed contracts.)

Since these are the same for every player, I think they do deserve more help in the future, like, getting their own tab in Mission Control & sort by date.

[michaelsteele3]

Yes please!

Achievements are a feature I would greatly enjoy in KSP. I could picture an addition, that lists your accomplishments inside KSP, as medals, trophies, ribbons or alike. Id think of that as an enhancement of the experience rather than a limitation. And of course a little checkbox in the options dialog to disable it for everyone concerned about immersion.

To round it off those (KSP) Achievements could trigger the corresponding achievements for Steam-users as myself, nobody is left out.

Its just a feature request, undoubtedly there are many more request equally or more important still requiring a lot of manpower, but for me it would mean a major improvement to an already awesome game.

I've already had a considerable amount of fun hunting for meaningless, ridiculous and crazy achievements, some alone, mostly with friends, inside and outside the Steam platform. And I promise to rethink my life, if this feature is implemented. But until then, THUMBS UP for achievements! The game just calls for it.

It's not going to happen.