[wip] [rather pic heavy] brown dwarf mod, currently unnamed

June 24, 2015

This is the development thread for the Unnamed Brown Dwarf Mod! Before we get into depth, let's run over the new bodies:

Brown Dwarf

A large, gas giant like star, it will be roughly 1000C here. Will be 10,000km in radius and a thick (3,000 bars) atmosphere.

Moho-like planet

Will have one side deformed and blackened, and the other side just pockmarked with craters. Roughly 200km in radius, orbiting only 8000km from the host.

Eve-like planet

Will have a thick, 2 bar atmosphere only 50km high, with some large spires poking through the top. Has a large moon orbiting, keeping the planet highly volcanic, hence the large mountains. The moon will just be like the moon, only around 300km in radius. The planet itself will be 500km in radius, and orbiting at 16,000km.

Super-Laythe

A rather large Laythe-like planet, with an 80km thick 1.2 bar atmosphere. It will be 750km in radius and will have a gravity of 1.25g. Has 2 moons, one with a 200km radius similar to the Mun, and another as a small, far orbiting asteroid. In the brown dwarf's goldilocks zone, it will orbit at 35,000km

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Dres-like planet

Only 150km in radius, this planet will be covered in lots of small mountains and craters. Will orbit at 56,000km, and will probably deviate around 8,000km.

Tiny asteroid

Nothing to behold, a tiny, cratered asteroid barely 10km across, orbiting at a SMA of 65,000km with high eccentricity.

First gas giant

Will be 2000km in radius and have anywhere from 3 to 7 moons. Orbiting at 100,000km, the gas giant will be tinged yellow with orange bands. (sorry about the image :blush: )

Water-Ice-Clouds-found-outside-Solar-System-640x427.jpg

Second gas giant

Will be tinged purple in colour, and will have anywhere from 5 to 2 moons. Orbits at 160,000km and is 1200km in radius.

Last planet

Probably will be a small, 200km radius moon, orbiting at anywhere from 155,000km to 240,000km.

More planets and moons are likely to be added. If my computer doesn't crash. :confused:

I'm planning to use PlanetFactory CE for the first few tests, but then port it over to Kopernicus. Also, I'd like help making up names. Thankyou. Here is a nice juicy sample planet for you to give some feedback on.


PFBody
{
 name = SuperLaythe
 templateName = Laythe
 flightGlobalsIndex = 2834083204
}
CelestialBody
{
 bodyDescription = A large, deep water world with towering mountains and vast expanses of water. Rumour even has it that the planet has life along the shores!
 GeeASL = 1.25
 atmosphereContainsOxygen = True
 atmosphereMaxHeight = 80000
 atmosphereTemperatureMultiplier = 1.6
 atmosphereMultiplier = 1.2
}
Orbit
{
 inclination = 2
 eccentricity = 0.03
 semiMajorAxis = 35000000
 referenceBody = BrownDwarf
}

Thanks in advance,

JebKeb

_Augustus_ · June 24, 2015

Kopernicus is superior. Don't use PF.

June 24, 2015

Kopernicus is superior. Don't use PF.

OK. Can I have a little tutorial on Kopernicus; they seem to be non-existant.

_Augustus_ · June 24, 2015

OK. Can I have a little tutorial on Kopernicus; they seem to be non-existant.

It's called looking at the example files and figuring it out.

KAO · June 24, 2015

my question is: is it even possible for a brown dwarf to have such a breadth of planets and gas giants?

EDIT: nevermind, I was horribly mistaken

Astrofox · June 25, 2015

Looks like an awesome idea...

I would like to try this out sometime soon...

I hope development will be smooth.

June 25, 2015

It's called looking at the example files and figuring it out.

Oh. They were less complicated than I thought. I should move KSC to Super Laythe.

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How can you do models for planets? There aren't any image heightmaps.

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What goes in the "Cache" folder? Images?

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I still need a little bit of a tutorial; the top section makes sense but then it goes odd.

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Looks like an awesome idea...
I would like to try this out sometime soon...
I hope development will be smooth.

Coming in anywhere from a month to a few. :wink:

June 25, 2015

We have 3 names!

Brown dwarf: Proksolar

Moho like planet: Ablatus

Super laythe: Kaia

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It's called looking at the example files and figuring it out.

Also, Kopernicus is freezing in the loader at ModuleManager.

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Kopernicus is superior. Don't use PF.

Kopernicus seems to be a bit unstable. And at the moment I'm just getting the concept done.

June 26, 2015

Kopernicus seems to be a bit unstable. And at the moment I'm just getting the concept done.

I'm dumb. :confused: I was using 0.90 for something for 1.0.X!

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@Kopernicus {
Body
{
 name = Proksolar
 flightGlobalsIndex = 4300
 Properties
 {
  description = Once a fully blown star, a nearby supernova nearly destroyed it and blasted huge amounts of gas into orbit, coalescing into the 19 bodies orbiting it today. The brown dwarf still has a large amount of gas orbiting in a ring 40,000km out.
  radius = 10000000
  mass = 1.898*10000000000000000000000000000*25
  geeASL = 361 
 }
 Orbit
 {
  referenceBody = Sun
  color = random, colour, stuff
  inclination = 113
  eccentricity = 0.4
  semiMajorAxis = 20000000000
 }
}
}

Will this work? And how do you do the atmosphere?

June 26, 2015

Just someone, please, I need a full tutorial. There are so many incarnations of Kopernicus - Kopernicus, KopernicusCore, Kopernicus Tech - that it is hard to know what to use, and I don't know the API very well for each version.

KillAshley · June 26, 2015

so kopernicustech is an outdated plugin, same with kopernicus core. Use the current Kopernicus for your planets. Best advice i can give is to look at the example planets included in the downloads, and look at existing planet pack such as OPM, New Horizons, and Trans-Kepuntian to see how the configs work. theres no tutorial currently, it's mainly trial and error. Work on a tutorial is slowly progressing when i get time free........

June 26, 2015

Thanks, it just seemed that those two plugins were what to use. Maybe I'll work on a tutorial. Also, OPM has the files compressed.

June 26, 2015


@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
 Body
 {
  name = Proksolar
  flightGlobalsIndex = 9500
  Orbit
  {
   referenceBody = Sun
   inclination = 118
   eccentricity = 0.5
   semiMajorAxis = 21000000000
   longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
   argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
   meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
   epoch = 0
   color = 102,0,0,1
  }
  Properties 
  {
   description = WIP
   radius = 10000000
   geeASL = 361
   rotationPeriod = 100000
   rotates = true
   tidallyLocked = false
   initalRotation = 0
   isHomeWorld = false
   timewarpAltitudeLimits = 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 //currently WIP
  }
  Atmosphere
  {
   lightColor = 0,0,0,0 //currently WIP
   enabled = true
   oxygen = false
   altitude = 1000000
   pressureCurve
   {
    key = 0 3000
    key = 1000000 0
    //WIP too
   }
   temperatureCurve
   {
    key = 0 1000
    key = 1000000 200
    //and this
   }
  }
 }
}

That is the code for the central brown dwarf. Any problems? Also, is my programming style bad? I know I have to do the actual atmosphere, but it'll come later.

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Update: The eve like planet will be a binary system with a 400km radius moon, Ablatus will have a ring, Proksolar will have a ring around the "asteroid belt" and the two gas giants are respectively 3000km and 2000km in radius.

June 27, 2015

How do I structure the GameData folder for this?

June 27, 2015

I have 1.0 now, and Koperncius during loading froze at ModuleManager in 0.90. Was it caused by outdated hardware or software?

June 27, 2015

Kopernicus works!

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What's happening here?


ScaledVersion 
	 {
	  type = Atmospheric
	  fadeStart = 0
	  fadeEnd = 0
	  Material
	  {
	   texture = Kopernicus/Cache/Textures/Proksolar
	   shininess = 0
	   specular = 0.0,0.0,0.0,1.0
	   rimPower = 2.06
	   rimBlend = 0.3
	   Gradient
	   {
	    0.0 = 255,99,56,1
		1.0 = 163,0,0,1
	   }
	  }
	 }

Edited June 27, 2015 by JebKeb

sDaZe · June 28, 2015

Looks good man! I'm excited for super laythe XD

Astrofox · June 29, 2015

Our team over at Astro's Kopernicus planets stumbled upon that problem too - and we fixed it with just changing the atmosphere colors.

I'll help with some structuring if you need it, however, to just give you an idea of the GameData structuring:

GameData/unammedBrownDwarfMod/Proksolar

Then it will be either (picking up from Proksolar):

/Textures/Proksolar_color (.png)

/Proksolar.cfg

I'll probably do a structure map and put it up.

Edit: Here you go! You don't need a PluginData folder for gas giants. Do not use Normals on Gas giants.

Remember, you can name your mod whatever you want as long as the structure stays mostly like this:

For Textures and Normal: GameData/(Name of mod)/Planet/Textures/planet_color OR planet_normal.

For Height: GameData/(Name of mod)/Planet/PluginData/planet_height

For Config: GameData/(Name of mod)/Planet/Planet.cfg

Edited June 29, 2015 by Astrofox

July 3, 2015

I should write a tutorial soon. Thanks for the help :wink: , and sorry for the previous and future inactivity. I'll be back by the 15th, I was and will be on holiday.

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How do you calculate eccentricity, based on the peripasis and the apoapsis? You can go all mathy on me - I'm OK.

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Do not use Normals on Gas giants.

Now I must do it, for the glory of shiny awesomeness.

Astrofox · July 4, 2015

I still wouldn't go into adding normals to gas planets.

Anyway, I see that it's been slow for a while - but just wait, it will be a LOT faster.

July 13, 2015

Full info table for all planets of Proksolar

[TABLE=width: 500]

[TR]

[TD]Planet[/TD]

[TD]Proksolar[/TD]

[TD]Ablatus[/TD]

[TD]Ikulna[/TD]

[TD]Kaia[/TD]

[TD]Unnamed Dres[/TD]

[TD]Unnamed

Asteroid[/TD]

[TD]GasGiant

1[/TD]

[TD]GasGiant

2[/TD]

[TD]Unnamed

Eeloo[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Ref body[/TD]

[TD]Sun[/TD]

[TD]Proksolar

[/TD]

[TD]Proksolar[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Orbit in km[/TD]

[TD]25m-14m[/TD]

[TD]10,000[/TD]

[TD]25,000[/TD]

[TD]60,000[/TD]

[TD]130k-145k[/TD]

[TD]75k-225k[/TD]

[TD]210k[/TD]

[TD]500k[/TD]

[TD]450k-800k[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Radius in km[/TD]

[TD]10,000[/TD]

[TD]200[/TD]

[TD]500[/TD]

[TD]800[/TD]

[TD]140[/TD]

[TD]50[/TD]

[TD]3,000[/TD]

[TD]2,000[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Moons[/TD]

[TD]9[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]3[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Gs[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]0.6[/TD]

[TD]0.8[/TD]

[TD]1.2[/TD]

[TD]0.1[/TD]

[TD]0.001[/TD]

[TD]0.8[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]0.3[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Atmo pressure[/TD]

[TD]3000[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]2[/TD]

[TD]1.2[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]8[/TD]

[TD]5[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Atmo height in km[/TD]

[TD]5,000[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]50[/TD]

[TD]80[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]140[/TD]

[TD]100[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Full info table for moons of planets of Proksolar.

[TABLE=width: 500]

[TR]

[TD]Moon[/TD]

[TD]Ikulna 2/

Unnamed[/TD]

[TD]Unnamed

Kaia Moon[/TD]

[TD]Unnamed

Kaia Asteroid[/TD]

[TD]Lava

Moon[/TD]

[TD]Thin Oxy Atmo Moon

[/TD]

[TD]Big

Boring

Moon[/TD]

[TD]Minimus

Like

Moon [/TD]

[TD]Tiny

Asteroid[/TD]

[TD]Inner

Asteroid[/TD]

[TD]Titan

Like

Moon[/TD]

[TD]Minimus

Like

Moon 2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Ref body[/TD]

[TD]Ikulna[/TD]

[TD]Kaia[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

1[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

1[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

1[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

1[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

1[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

2[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

2[/TD]

[TD]Gas Giant

2[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Orbit in km[/TD]

[TD]1,200[/TD]

[TD]3,000[/TD]

[TD]3,500-8,000[/TD]

[TD]2,000[/TD]

[TD]5,000[/TD]

[TD]12,000[/TD]

[TD]11,000-18,000[/TD]

[TD]8,000-24,000[/TD]

[TD]900-300[/TD]

[TD]3,000[/TD]

[TD]4,000-5,000[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Radius in km[/TD]

[TD]400[/TD]

[TD]250[/TD]

[TD]40[/TD]

[TD]400[/TD]

[TD]300[/TD]

[TD]650[/TD]

[TD]180[/TD]

[TD]30[/TD]

[TD]80[/TD]

[TD]450[/TD]

[TD]160[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Gs[/TD]

[TD]0.4[/TD]

[TD]0.2[/TD]

[TD]0.0006[/TD]

[TD]1.2[/TD]

[TD]0.6[/TD]

[TD]0.9[/TD]

[TD]0.1[/TD]

[TD]0.0003[/TD]

[TD]0.002[/TD]

[TD]0.6[/TD]

[TD]0.08[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Atmo pressure[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]0.01[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]1.4[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Atmo height in km[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]10[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[TD]40[/TD]

[TD]0[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Useless one oops[/TD]

[TD][/TD]

[/TR]

[/TABLE]

Now I shall stop babbling.

sorry

Also, I'm back, but will be sometimes inavaliable.

July 14, 2015

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/128626-Kopernicus-JebKeb-s-Planets-Development?p=2078187#post2078187

Please use that thread now. I don't want to cluttee up the forums with many different threads for many different mods.

Can I also get the thread locked. but kept for historical reasons.

Thanks.

[wip] [rather pic heavy] brown dwarf mod, currently unnamed

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