Interstage Shrouds Should Act as a Strut

[Right]

Given that interstage shrouds already have an attachment point on the other end, and their mass expenditure is sufficiently high, and its realistic that a shroud would provide some structural integrity.

Thoughts?

[legoclone09]

Yes, they should. It would be nice too, and I think that the Procedural Fairings mod's Interstages are structural. Not sure though.

[klgraham1013]

I agree with this.

[pandaman]

I agree too.

[Alshain]

As far as I'm concerned there are no stock interstage shrouds. They certainly don't act like it.

But I agree, all fairings should act as struts.

[Boiler1]

You have my vote.

[clivman]

Yeah everything inside a fairing should be connected

[pandaman]

Yeah everything inside a fairing should be connected

I assume by that you mean that anything enclosed by a fairing is treated as if it is strutted to the fairing sides and that the fairing itself, including the auto generated engine shrouds, behaves like a series of struts between the two ends then yes I think that would be a good idea.

[Gaarst]

I'd appreciate real interstage shrouds that fit the stage size and not only the engine size. For example, using a Terrier (LV-909) on a 2.5m tank currently looks really bad as the shroud is only 1.25m, also it is structurally very weak.

An alternative is to put a fairing below it, but inline fairings are not attached at the top, so the rocket would still be unstable.

Still very much agree with OP though.

[Pthigrivi]

Totally. Also does it seem to folks like fairing bases don't count as valid strut attachment points? If so I'd love them to fix that.

[Red Iron Crown]

Totally. Also does it seem to folks like fairing bases don't count as valid strut attachment points? If so I'd love them to fix that.

You can end struts there but not start them, because fairing bases have surface attachment disabled.

[passinglurker]

As far as I'm concerned there are no stock interstage shrouds. They certainly don't act like it.

But I agree, all fairings should act as struts.

Wait do stock interstate fairings not occlude?

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[Red Iron Crown]

Wait do stock interstate fairings not occlude?

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They do occlude aerodynamically. I suspect Alshain was referring to their lack of structural improvement.

[Pthigrivi]

You can end struts there but not start them, because fairing bases have surface attachment disabled.

Sweet! Thanks, I always build my struts from the bottom up by habit so I hadn't noticed.

[mattinoz]

If it means we get that classic shot as seen with the Saturn V staging rings falling back and burning up as we stage I'm all for it.

Yes,yes it's seemed odd to me structural forces in the current system seem to transfer via the delicate engine and gimble machinery.

Those Gimbled engines must be over engineered to a massive extent to deal with those loads.

Then again I'm not a Kerbal and those guys seem to be strange like that.

[clivman]

I assume by that you mean that anything enclosed by a fairing is treated as if it is strutted to the fairing sides and that the fairing itself, including the auto generated engine shrouds, behaves like a series of struts between the two ends then yes I think that would be a good idea.

Yeah and KJR should be stock

[Alshain]

They do occlude aerodynamically. I suspect Alshain was referring to their lack of structural improvement.

Indeed. If I can't use them for TD&E without staging them away, they aren't good enough and might as well not exist

Edited October 12, 2015 by Alshain

[zolotiyeruki]

I'd appreciate real interstage shrouds that fit the stage size and not only the engine size. For example, using a Terrier (LV-909) on a 2.5m tank currently looks really bad as the shroud is only 1.25m, also it is structurally very weak.

Agreed. I love my LV-909s, but they look ridiculous on a 2.5m tank. And they don't stack well.

The same goes for LV-N's