Our Universe is a larger version of a galactic polar jet

[PB666]

The black hole does not produce jets, the matter swirling around the poles produces xrays due to relativistic effects, the xrays then strike matter far from the hole and eject matter from the galaxy.

Edited October 14, 2015 by PB666

[mpc755]

The black hole does not produce jets, the matter swirling around the poles produces xrays due to relativistic effects, the xrays then strike matter far from the hole and eject matter from the galaxy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysical_jet

"An astrophysical jet (hereafter 'jet') is a phenomenon often seen in astronomy, where streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object."

Just as seen in our Universe.

'Was the universe born spinning?'

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46688

"The universe was born spinning and continues to do so around a preferred axis"

Our Universe spins around a preferred axis because it is a larger version of a galactic polar jet.

'On the Modern Status of the Universe Rotation Problem'

http://file.scirp.org/Html/12-7501435_36098.htm

"our Universe rotate, most probably"

Our Universe has an axis of rotation, just like galactic polar jets do.

Our Universe is a larger version of a galactic polar jet.

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[PB666]

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_tests_cmb.html

The green represents a psuedocoloration the microwave spectrum generated at 2.7 kelvin, to desplay an eye-relative variation of a 3D projection to a 2D surface.

The temperature now represents a redshifted temperature of to hundreds of millions of degrees before deionization.

The frequency fell due to redshifting from near infrared region into the microwave infrared region.

Had you been standing in the center of this at that time you would have felt intense heat pouring in from all directions at once it would have felt like being in an oven 3000 degrees, there would be no direction you could turn or block to avoid the radiation because the radiation permeated spaced.

The CMBR is not perfectly anistrophic, this is because our galaxy is spinning and it in moving the in virgo cluster, as well as the traveling around the sun. When these are all factored out:

in fact the earth is whizzing around relative to where inflation dropped off this space to continue on its journey at about 600 km per second.

The CMBR is the same to within 0.004 % on scales < 7 degrees (excluding the dipole anisotropy). -http://hendrix2.uoregon.edu/~imamura/123/lecture-1/cmbr.html

http://hendrix2.uoregon.edu/~imamura/123/lecture-1/cmbr.html

You can not win this argument. You can continue to try if you like.

[mpc755]

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/bb_tests_cmb.html

http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/media/ContentMedia/990004s.jpg

The green represents a psuedocoloration the microwave spectrum generated at 2.7 kelvin, to desplay an eye-relative variation of a 3D projection to a 2D surface.

The temperature now represents a redshifted temperature of to hundreds of millions of degrees before deionization.

The frequency fell due to redshifting from near infrared region into the microwave infrared region.

Had you been standing in the center of this at that time you would have felt intense heat pouring in from all directions at once it would have felt like being in an oven 3000 degrees, there would be no direction you could turn or block to avoid the radiation because the radiation permeated spaced.

The CMBR is not perfectly anistrophic, this is because our galaxy is spinning and it in moving the in virgo cluster, as well as the traveling around the sun. When these are all factored out:

in fact the earth is whizzing around relative to where inflation dropped off this space to continue on its journey at about 600 km per second.

http://hendrix2.uoregon.edu/~imamura/123/lecture-1/cmbr.html

You can not win this argument. You can continue to try if you like.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrophysical_jet

"An astrophysical jet (hereafter 'jet') is a phenomenon often seen in astronomy, where streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object."

Just as seen in our Universe.

'Was the universe born spinning?'

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46688

"The universe was born spinning and continues to do so around a preferred axis"

Our Universe spins around a preferred axis because it is a larger version of a galactic polar jet.

'On the Modern Status of the Universe Rotation Problem'

http://file.scirp.org/Html/12-7501435_36098.htm

"our Universe rotate, most probably"

Our Universe has an axis of rotation, just like galactic polar jets do.

Our Universe is a larger version of a galactic polar jet.

[Willbl3pic]

Explain the Cosmic Microwave Background, mpc755. How does that fit into your polar jet 'theory'?

[mpc755]

Explain the Cosmic Microwave Background, mpc755. How does that fit into your polar jet 'theory'?

The CMBR is part of the ongoing process which is the aether continuously emitted into the Universal jet. It's not a remnant. It is part of an ongoing process.

We are detecting the chaotic nature of the aether in the CMBR.

NON-LINEAR WAVE MECHANICS A CAUSAL INTERPRETATION by LOUIS DE BROGLIE

“Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier. According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium†which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty spaceâ€Â.â€Â

The “subquantic medium†is the aether.

‘Fluid mechanics suggests alternative to quantum orthodoxy’

http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2014/fluid-systems-quantum-mechanics-0912

“The fluidic pilot-wave system is also chaotic. It’s impossible to measure a bouncing droplet’s position accurately enough to predict its trajectory very far into the future. But in a recent series of papers, Bush, MIT professor of applied mathematics Ruben Rosales, and graduate students Anand Oza and Dan Harris applied their pilot-wave theory to show how chaotic pilot-wave dynamics leads to the quantumlike statistics observed in their experiments.â€Â

A “fluidic pilot-wave system†is the aether.

‘When Fluid Dynamics Mimic Quantum Mechanics’

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130729111934.htm

“If you have a system that is deterministic and is what we call in the business ‘chaotic,’ or sensitive to initial conditions, sensitive to perturbations, then it can behave probabilistically,†Milewski continues. “Experiments like this weren’t available to the giants of quantum mechanics. They also didn’t know anything about chaos. Suppose these guys  who were puzzled by why the world behaves in this strange probabilistic way  actually had access to experiments like this and had the knowledge of chaos, would they have come up with an equivalent, deterministic theory of quantum mechanics, which is not the current one? That’s what I find exciting from the quantum perspective.â€Â

What waves in a double slit experiment is the aether.

[Willbl3pic]

Explain what your so-called 'aether' is in your own words.

[mpc755]

Explain what your so-called 'aether' is in your own words.

The aether is the mass that fills the space unoccupied by particles of matter and is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and it's associated wave in the aether.

[PB666]

The aether is the mass that fills the space unoccupied by particles of matter and is displaced by the particles of matter which exist in it and move through it.

What is referred to geometrically as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

Wave-particle duality is a moving particle and it's associated wave in the aether.

Oh this is too rich, the mass that fills space unoccupied by matter. So if i have a four stage vacuum pump and o can pull 0.0001 microns of mercury, is the chamber of my pump going to be filled with aether.

While you are trying to answer that i am am just going to fiddle over in the corner. You dont need to pay any attention to my fiddlings

Matter, definition of

physical substance in general, as distinct from mind and spirit; (in physics) that which occupies space and possesses rest mass, especially as distinct from energy."the structure and properties of matter"

written or printed material.

[mpc755]

Oh this is too rich, the mass that fills space unoccupied by matter. So if i have a four stage vacuum pump and o can pull 0.0001 microns of mercury, is the chamber of my pump going to be filled with aether.

There are no such things as virtual particles popping into and out of existence out of nothing. In the following video what are referred to as the virtual particles popping into and out of existence out of nothing is actually the aether which exists where the quarks do not. Where the quarks exist the aether is displaced. See the 1:53 mark in the following video.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

Edited October 14, 2015 by mpc755

[Lord Aurelius]

Oh this is too rich, the mass that fills space unoccupied by matter. So if i have a four stage vacuum pump and o can pull 0.0001 microns of mercury, is the chamber of my pump going to be filled with aether.

This particular argument against an aether doesn't actually work. If the aether is displaced by matter but not the other way around, then the aether wouldn't be able to exert a force on the mercury to displace it in that example so what you're seeing would be expected behavior either way.

Edited October 14, 2015 by Lord Aurelius

[mpc755]

This particular argument against an aether doesn't actually work. If the aether is displaced by matter but not the other way around, then the aether wouldn't be able to exert a force on the mercury to displace it in that example so what you're seeing would be expected behavior either way.

The aether is displaced by the matter. The aether 'displaces back', hence inertia.

You roll a bowling ball through a supersolid. By definition, the bowling ball rolls on forever through the supersolid. The bowling ball displaces the supersolid. The supersolid displaces the bowling ball as it fills in where the bowling ball had been. This is the supersolid 'displacing back'.

Q. Is the bowling ball displacing the supersolid or is the supersolid displacing the bowling ball?

A. Both are occurring simultaneously with equal force.

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid, which is described in the following article as the 'fluidic' nature of space itself. The article describes a 'back reaction' associated with the 'fluidic' nature of space itself. This is the displaced aether 'displacing back'.

'An Extended Dynamical Equation of Motion, Phase Dependency and Inertial Backreaction'

http://arxiv.org/abs/1208.3458

"We hypothesize that space itself resists such surges according to a kind of induction law (related to inertia); additionally, we provide further evidence of the “fluidic†nature of space itself. This "back-reaction" is quantified by the tendency of angular momentum flux threading across a surface."

Edited October 14, 2015 by mpc755

[PB666]

This particular argument against an aether doesn't actually work. If the aether is displaced by matter but not the other way around, then the aether wouldn't be able to exert a force on the mercury to displace it in that example so what you're seeing would be expected behavior either way.

The mercury is only there to confirm that i have a vacuum. I expect it to fill with dark screed since i have removed all the matter. I dont expect to interact with EM, there but i do expect the mass of my pump to increase since that vacuum contains the vacuum and dark screedy matter resides in the vacuum.

Dark screed is the form of aether matter that is drafted into existence when people say it can exist on discussion groups. Its very sensitive so speak kindly of it or it might run for cover.

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There are no such things as virtual particles popping into and out of existence out of nothing. In the following video what are referred to as the virtual particles popping into and out of existence out of nothing is actually the aether which exists where the quarks do not. Where the quarks exist the aether is displaced.

But you said it exists in the vacuum of space where there is no matter. So if i find any section of space and remove the matter and create a perfect vacuum then it should come in and start houskeeping, complete with dark TV sets, dark sofas, dark humor, dark magic, dark tan even a dark exercise bike with a tachometer. Then if I were to connect this vacuum pump via a tiny vacuum line. And so while my vacuum pump is running as i reach a certain low vacuun the weight should suddenly move in, indicating that my dark matter has moved in and gotten comfortable.

Edited October 14, 2015 by PB666

[mpc755]

But you said it exists in the vacuum of space where there is no matter. So if i find any section of space and remove the matter and create a perfect vacuum then it should come in and start houskeeping, complete with dark TV sets, dark sofas, dark humor, dark magic, dark tan even a dark exercise bike with a tachometer. Then if I were to connect this vacuum pump via a tiny vacuum line. And so while my vacuum pump is running as i reach a certain low vacuun the weight should suddenly move in, indicating that my dark matter has moved in and gotten comfortable.

When you create a vacuum in a container the container still has mass. When you create a vacuum in a container the container still consists of aether.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

[PB666]

When you create a vacuum in a container the container still has mass. When you create a vacuum in a container the container still consists of aether.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

Yes, but the contents are empty and that constitues empty space; what kind of curtains the dark matter would like, im thinking red on yellow wall paper? Hope they move in fast, i dont want wait too long. According to my understanding any space larger than say planks distance that has no matter is empty, since there is uncertainty of course you have to alot a bigger, say a decimeter, 10^-1/ 10^-35 hey thats aorund 100^100 plank length cubed; lots of room, i could have a whole nation of these dark matter guys.

[mpc755]

Yes, but the contents are empty and that constitues empty space; what kind of curtains the dark matter would like, im thinking red on yellow wall paper? Hope they move in fast, i dont want wait too long. According to my understanding any space larger than say planks distance that has no matter is empty, since there is uncertainty of course you have to alot a bigger, say a decimeter, 10^-1/ 10^-35 hey thats aorund 100^100 plank length cubed; lots of room, i could have a whole nation of these dark matter guys.

NON-LINEAR WAVE MECHANICS A CAUSAL INTERPRETATION by LOUIS DE BROGLIE

“Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier. According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium†which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty spaceâ€Â.â€Â

The “subquantic medium†is the aether.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

[PB666]

NON-LINEAR WAVE MECHANICS A CAUSAL INTERPRETATION by LOUIS DE BROGLIE

“Since 1954, when this passage was written, I have come to support wholeheartedly an hypothesis proposed by Bohm and Vigier. According to this hypothesis, the random perturbations to which the particle would be constantly subjected, and which would have the probability of presence in terms of [the wave-function wave], arise from the interaction of the particle with a “subquantic medium†which escapes our observation and is entirely chaotic, and which is everywhere present in what we call “empty spaceâ€Â.â€Â

The “subquantic medium†is the aether.

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

Do you think they like a dark amusement park after all its halloween?

[mpc755]

Do you think they like a dark amusement park after all its halloween?

Are you able to understand "streams of matter are emitted along the axis of rotation of a compact object" means matter is emitted into the polar jet?

[ZetaX]

A probably futile attempt to prevent the inevitable:

Dear moderators, please do not lock this thread. It is quite amusing to watch. Thank you!

[YNM]

@ mpc 755: please actually look at your linked papers, most specially the one on your second post in this thread labeled bulk flow significance. There's one suspicious image in there... Why does the rotation align up with our galactic rotation ? Have they nulled our peculiar velocity ?

Also, post more papers than website links, even if they're NASA or some great observatories. Or just the raw data if you can. We need observational evidence, not some suggestion based on interpretation. Yeah, big bang is just one interpretation.

Also, black hole relativistic jets arise not from the black hole itself. Learn some general relativity.

@ mods: told you so about the great attractor in the field.

[mpc755]

@ mods: told you so about the great attractor in the field.

There is no "great attractor". Matter is moving along a path because our Universe is a larger version of a galactic polar jet.

[Vanamonde]

Okay, the thread is just repeating itself now, and despite warnings, the personal attacks have continued. It's time to move on to other discussions now, guys.