Is this alternate solar system possible?

[fredinno]

   On December 6, 2015 at 7:35 PM,  ChrisSpace said: 

Fredinnus: (3.4x Earths Mass) Discovered by the decrypting of the Phobos and Deimos Monoliths. A rouge planet on an escape trajectory from Sol, it is currently near its apoapsis to the Sun. It could be a good refuelling stop for interstellar missions, and seems to show that rouge planets are quite common in the Milky Way (estimations range from 2 to 100,000x more rouge planets than stars). Aside from being a frozen-over carbon planet, The planet has a thick Atm 12.2x thicker than Earths, it has a day/night cycle 42 days long, the temperature -272 c, and the planet is made mostly of Silicates, with little Iron. All information on this object has been obtained from the monoliths, which have questionable reliability. Fredinnus was the name given to this object by the archiving civilization. [ 1.61 G] ROUGE PLANET (11°) {Currently 0.9 Ly from the Sun}

 

CARBON, not silicates.... And there is no reason it would not have iron... It would still have iron, like Venus and Earth. Also, not atmosphere, please..

Volcanoes in here and Silverstriver might be interesting, that might heat it up, but I would need sims for that. If it does, just add a bit of carbon dioxide. maybe 0.1%-0.5% CO2. Carbon-diamond volcanoes would truely be a sight to behold...

[fredinno]

Crisplance: (2.1x Jupiter Masses) Discovered by the decrypting of the Phobos and Deimos Monoliths. A rouge planet on an escape trajectory from Sol, it is currently far from its apospsis to the Sun. It could be a good refuelling stop for interstellar missions, and seems to show that rouge planets are quite common in the Milky Way (estimations range from 2 to 100,000x more rouge planets than stars). Aside from being an enormous gas giant, The planets Atm is unknown, it has a day/night cycle lasting .3 days long, the temperature is -273 c, and the planet is made mostly of Hydrogen. All information on this object has been obtained from the monoliths, which have questionable reliability. Crisplance was the name given to this object by the archiving civilization. [12.43 G] ROUGE PLANET (5°) {Currently 1.2 Ly from the Sun}

 

The internal heating would likely be fifty to sixty degrees or so (basing off Jupiter here) higher, which makes listing the temperature pointless. God knows how it got to rotate so fast. I doubt it would be reasonable. Please lower it.

 

Silverstrivler: (0.75x Earths Mass) Discovered by the decrypting of the Phobos and Deimos Monoliths. A rouge planet on an escape trajectory from Sol, it is currently approaching its apoapsis to the Sun. It could be a good refuelling stop for interstellar missions, and seems to show that rouge planets are quite common in the Milky Way (estimations range from 2 to 100,000x more rouge planets than stars). Aside from being a near-coreless water-ice planet, The planet has a thin Atm .372 of Earths, it has a day/night cycle lasting 3.02 days long, the temperature -272 c, and the planet is made mostly of Water. All information on this object has been obtained from the monoliths, which have questionable reliability. Fredinnus was the name given to this object by the archiving civilization. [.535 G] ROUGE PLANET (8°) {Currently 1.4 Ly from the Sun}

Remove the atmosphere, it would be frozen over at that temperature. AND MAKE IT FULLY CORELESS PLEASE. That's most if the fun

 

[Spaceception]

New stats for the rouge planets (It lasted for 77330 years):

Fredinnus:

3.4x the mass of Earth | 9087 km | 1.67 g | -272 c | Day/Night cycle, 5.5 days | Albedo .27 | Materials: Iron 23.2%, Silicate 76.4%, Water .4% (Think of it as nitrogen, ammonia, carbon dioxide, etc, etc ices from a collapsed atmosphere that collapsed shortly after its formation) | Magnetic field, 1.2 Gauss |

Chrisplance:

Basically an oversized Jupiter | 2.1x the mass of Jupiter | -240 c |

Silverstrivler:

.75x the mass of Earth | 7355 km | .563 g | -272 c | Day/Night cycle, 30.4 days | Albedo .21 | Materials: Iron 20.5%, Silicate 29.8%, Water 49.7% |

[fredinno]

On 1/29/2016 at 7:24 AM, Spaceception said:

New stats for the rouge planets (It lasted for 77330 years):

Fredinnus:

3.4x the mass of Earth | 9087 km | 1.67 g | -272 c | Day/Night cycle, 5.5 days | Albedo .27 | Materials: Iron 23.2%, Silicate 76.4%, Water .4% (Think of it as nitrogen, ammonia, carbon dioxide, etc, etc ices from a collapsed atmosphere that collapsed shortly after its formation) | Magnetic field, 1.2 Gauss |

Chrisplance:

Basically an oversized Jupiter | 2.1x the mass of Jupiter | -240 c |

Silverstrivler:

.75x the mass of Earth | 7355 km | .563 g | -272 c | Day/Night cycle, 30.4 days | Albedo .21 | Materials: Iron 20.5%, Silicate 29.8%, Water 49.7% |

I would recommend you state the stats instead of "Basically an oversized Jupiter".

[Findthepin1]

12.43 g is too high. Jupiter itself only has 2.25 g. 

[Spaceception]

17 minutes ago, fredinno said:

I would recommend you state the stats instead of "Basically an oversized Jupiter".

Okay, sorry about that, I'll get working on it in 25 minutes.

[fredinno]

37 minutes ago, Findthepin1 said:

12.43 g is too high. Jupiter itself only has 2.25 g. 

Nowhere is that G level ever stated.

[Spaceception]

@fredinno

Fredinnus:

2.1x the mass of Jupiter | 70737 km | Temp -272 c | 5.42 g | Albedo .34 | Day/Night cycle 10 hours | Magnetic field 12000 Gauss (1.2 Tesla) | Materials 1.92% Silicate, 4.26% Water, and 93.8% Hydrogen |

It lasted for 117068 years, before I closed it out.

[fredinno]

5 minutes ago, Spaceception said:

@fredinno

Fredinnus:

2.1x the mass of Jupiter | 70737 km | Temp -272 c | 5.42 g | Albedo .34 | Day/Night cycle 10 hours | Magnetic field 12000 Gauss (1.2 Tesla) | Materials 1.92% Silicate, 4.26% Water, and 93.8% Hydrogen |

It lasted for 117068 years, before I closed it out.

Umm, you forgot the thing where it's not supposed to have water- and it should be a similar composition to Jupiter...

[Findthepin1]

On 29 January, 2016 at 5:26 AM, fredinno said:

Crisplance: (2.1x Jupiter Masses) Discovered by the decrypting of the Phobos and Deimos Monoliths. A rouge planet on an escape trajectory from Sol, it is currently far from its apospsis to the Sun. It could be a good refuelling stop for interstellar missions, and seems to show that rouge planets are quite common in the Milky Way (estimations range from 2 to 100,000x more rouge planets than stars). Aside from being an enormous gas giant, The planets Atm is unknown, it has a day/night cycle lasting .3 days long, the temperature is -273 c, and the planet is made mostly of Hydrogen. All information on this object has been obtained from the monoliths, which have questionable reliability. Crisplance was the name given to this object by the archiving civilization. [12.43 G] ROUGE PLANET (5°) {Currently 1.2 Ly from the Sun}

I underlined, italic-ed, bolded, crossed out, and greened the part where it says 12.43g.

[fredinno]

1 minute ago, Findthepin1 said:

I underlined, italic-ed, bolded, crossed out, and greened the part where it says 12.43g.

Damn, typo. Thanks!

[Findthepin1]

Just now, fredinno said:

Damn, typo. Thanks!

No problem. What was it supposed to say?

[Spaceception]

7 minutes ago, fredinno said:

Umm, you forgot the thing where it's not supposed to have water- and it should be a similar composition to Jupiter...

I wanted to give it something other than size that would make it its own planet, anyhow, the water content is probably to low to matter much.

[Findthepin1]

Just now, Spaceception said:

I wanted to give it something other than size that would make it its own planet, anyhow, the water content is probably to low to matter much.

There's also the fact that it being all the way out there, it would collect a lot of water-containing Oort Cloud bits.

[fredinno]

15 minutes ago, Spaceception said:

I wanted to give it something other than size that would make it its own planet, anyhow, the water content is probably to low to matter much.

It's a Sub brown dwarf, so it's formed in the same so position of a star. And Stars lack lots of h2o.

13 minutes ago, Findthepin1 said:

There's also the fact that it being all the way out there, it would collect a lot of water-containing Oort Cloud bits.

Not enough to make it more than only a trace gas. Being a rouge planet does not add very many debris impacts.

16 minutes ago, Findthepin1 said:

No problem. What was it supposed to say?

Probably 3 Gs or so. I write these things at midnight, so that's one reason they might have errors from brainfarts.

Edited January 30, 2016 by fredinno

[silversliver]

Ok I finished the internal system with Ceres and Dres.

This means that tomorrow I'll give you the download links.

No images for Phobos and Deimos because they're the exact copy of their real counterparts, and no images of the comet because you know........it's a comet, nothing more or less.

Images here.

Spoiler

Ceres and it's ring

Dres

Closer look at the surface, you can see the canyons

On the surface, near one of the canyons

 

 

[fredinno]

4 hours ago, silversliver said:

Ok I finished the internal system with Ceres and Dres.

This means that tomorrow I'll give you the download links.

No images for Phobos and Deimos because they're the exact copy of their real counterparts, and no images of the comet because you know........it's a comet, nothing more or less.

Images here.

  Hide contents

Ceres and it's ring

Dres

Closer look at the surface, you can see the canyons

On the surface, near one of the canyons

 

 

Aw, those are really pathetic Earth-like canyons. I was thinking more like this...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania_(moon)#/media/File%3APIA00039_Titania.jpg or this: google.ca/search?q=jmiranda&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=nIOtVpPjBYyAjwPr8YewAw#q=miranda+moon&imgrc=yxULY-5ToJ2PuM%3A

Edited January 31, 2016 by fredinno

[Spaceception]

4 hours ago, silversliver said:

Ok I finished the internal system with Ceres and Dres.

This means that tomorrow I'll give you the download links.

No images for Phobos and Deimos because they're the exact copy of their real counterparts, and no images of the comet because you know........it's a comet, nothing more or less.

Images here.

  Hide contents

Ceres and it's ring

Dres

Closer look at the surface, you can see the canyons

On the surface, near one of the canyons

 

 

That's cool. Great job so far!

[ChrisSpace]

10 hours ago, silversliver said:

Ok I finished the internal system with Ceres and Dres.

This means that tomorrow I'll give you the download links.

No images for Phobos and Deimos because they're the exact copy of their real counterparts, and no images of the comet because you know........it's a comet, nothing more or less.

As usual you have done well. I really look forwards to you posting your download link! (Although i'm not sure how I would install it)

[fredinno]

54 minutes ago, ChrisSpace said:

As usual you have done well. I really look forwards to you posting your download link! (Although i'm not sure how I would install it)

SpaceEngine is here: http://en.spaceengine.org/

[ChrisSpace]

11 minutes ago, fredinno said:

SpaceEngine is here: http://en.spaceengine.org/

- Facepalm - I already have SE, I just don't know how to install custom solar systems in it.

[silversliver]

15 hours ago, fredinno said:

Aw, those are really pathetic Earth-like canyons. I was thinking more like this...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titania_(moon)#/media/File%3APIA00039_Titania.jpg or this: google.ca/search?q=jmiranda&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=nIOtVpPjBYyAjwPr8YewAw#q=miranda+moon&imgrc=yxULY-5ToJ2PuM%3A

I tried to make bigger canyons but there was a polygon count so high that it was threatening to glitch and explode in my face so I decided for smaller canyons.

9 hours ago, ChrisSpace said:

(Although i'm not sure how I would install it)

Download:https://www.dropbox.com/s/f94gogee96jc0f3/alternatesolar%200.1.zip?dl=0

Installation instruction here.

Spoiler

WARNING: You MUST have SpaceEngine v.0.9.7.3 It's not guaranteed to work in other versions.

1) Download the attached file and extract it.

2)Put the folders "planets" and "stars" in the folder "catalogs". This folder is in the installation path of SpaceEngine.

3)Put the "universe.cfg" file in the folder "config" and overwrite or delete the file with the same name located here. Like before this folder is in the installation path.

4)To find the system write "Sol2" in the object finder (the magnifying glass in the planetarium left menu).

 

[fredinno]

5 hours ago, silversliver said:

I tried to make bigger canyons but there was a polygon count so high that it was threatening to glitch and explode in my face so I decided for smaller canyons.

Download:https://www.dropbox.com/s/f94gogee96jc0f3/alternatesolar%200.1.zip?dl=0

Installation instruction here.

  Reveal hidden contents

WARNING: You MUST have SpaceEngine v.0.9.7.3 It's not guaranteed to work in other versions.

1) Download the attached file and extract it.

2)Put the folders "planets" and "stars" in the folder "catalogs". This folder is in the installation path of SpaceEngine.

3)Put the "universe.cfg" file in the folder "config" and overwrite or delete the file with the same name located here. Like before this folder is in the installation path.

4)To find the system write "Sol2" in the object finder (the magnifying glass in the planetarium left menu).

 

Dang.

[fredinno]

Also, ChrisSpace, Spaceeption, we MAY have a problem. I read the article on Eris, and it turns out that Eris could not be named Phersephone as there was already an asteroid named after it. There are asteroids named things like ganymed, but they all remove a letter, and thus bypass the "non-repeating names rule." We MAY have to rename a few things. The objects that may have to be renamed are litsed below. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Bellona

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/399_Persephone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1862_Apollo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_Minerva

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/94_Aurora

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_Amphitrite

 

Dang. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_deities

http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/list-of-greek-gods-goddesses.html

 

I would like to rename Aurora Zelus, after the god of Zeal, Rivalry, and Jealousy. I would imagine it would be jealous of its larger counterpart in the sky.

[Findthepin1]

35 minutes ago, fredinno said:

Also, ChrisSpace, Spaceeption, we MAY have a problem. I read the article on Eris, and it turns out that Eris could not be named Phersephone as there was already an asteroid named after it. There are asteroids named things like ganymed, but they all remove a letter, and thus bypass the "non-repeating names rule." We MAY have to rename a few things. The objects that may have to be renamed are litsed below. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/28_Bellona

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/399_Persephone

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1862_Apollo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/93_Minerva

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/94_Aurora

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/29_Amphitrite

 

Dang. 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_deities

http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/list-of-greek-gods-goddesses.html

 

I would like to rename Aurora Zelus, after the god of Zeal, Rivalry, and Jealousy. I would imagine it would be jealous of its larger counterpart in the sky.

Why don't we just not have those asteroids in the alternate universe? Like, in Seveneves they have an asteroid called Amalthea even thought there's a moon named Amalthea IRL but it doesn't seem to exist in the book. That way we could keep Bellona and Persephone and Apollo and Minerva and Aurora and Eris and Amphitrite. Speaking of Amphitrite, I thought we couldn't put it into the system?

Edited February 1, 2016 by Findthepin1