Bipropellant RCS?

[FlarpingFlipperFlapper]

Im trying to make a bi-propellant RCS. Im having no luck as the thrusters do not fire or I should say they only fire on certian nozzles. Translation controls are blocked but I get all rotation except for roll. Im thinking this has to do with my bi-propellant config. Now Ive heard of RCSfx , but this is not an option as it will block fuel flow indefinatley. My ships need fuel flow and cannot node stack every little thing (which causes eye sore ships) Here is what I left off with.....

@PART[FASALM_RCS]
{	 
		@MODULE[ModuleRCS]
		{
		@thrusterPower = 1.5
		@resourceName = AEROZINE50_Refined+N2O4_Refined
		%resourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
			@atmosphereCurve
			{
				@key,0 = 0 440
				@key,1 = 1 250		
			}	
   	   	 !PROPELLANT[MonoPropellant] {}
			PROPELLANT
		    {
		      name = Aerozine50_Refined    // refined fuels mean turbo pumps not needed, so this can be a non-strict flow mode!
		      ratio = 56
		      %ResourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		    }
		    PROPELLANT
		    {
		      name = N2O4_Refined
		      ratio = 44
		      %ResourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		    }
	       }
}

 

[Red Iron Crown]

@FlarpingFlipperFlapper I took the liberty of splitting out your post from that old thread, I think you'll get better results in a new thread.  

[Fury1SOG]

16 hours ago, FlarpingFlipperFlapper said:

Im trying to make a bi-propellant RCS. Im having no luck as the thrusters do not fire or I should say they only fire on certian nozzles. Translation controls are blocked but I get all rotation except for roll. Im thinking this has to do with my bi-propellant config. Now Ive heard of RCSfx , but this is not an option as it will block fuel flow indefinatley. My ships need fuel flow and cannot node stack every little thing (which causes eye sore ships) Here is what I left off with.....

@PART[FASALM_RCS]
{	 
		@MODULE[ModuleRCS]
		{
		@thrusterPower = 1.5
		@resourceName = AEROZINE50_Refined+N2O4_Refined
		%resourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
			@atmosphereCurve
			{
				@key,0 = 0 440
				@key,1 = 1 250		
			}	
   	   	 !PROPELLANT[MonoPropellant] {}
			PROPELLANT
		    {
		      name = Aerozine50_Refined    // refined fuels mean turbo pumps not needed, so this can be a non-strict flow mode!
		      ratio = 56
		      %ResourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		    }
		    PROPELLANT
		    {
		      name = N2O4_Refined
		      ratio = 44
		      %ResourceFlowMode = STAGE_PRIORITY_FLOW
		    }
	       }
}

 

I understand that the RCS was fixed in v1.0.5. Don't know if this helps, but I've successfully adapted monoprop RCS to use LFO using the following MM config in v.1.0.5: 

@PART[blah]:NEEDS[blah]
{
    @MODULE[ModuleRCS]
    {
    @thrusterPower = 3
    @resourceName = LiquidFuel
    PROPELLANT
        {
            name = LiquidFuel
            ratio = 0.9
        }
    PROPELLANT
        {
            name = Oxidizer
            ratio = 1.1
        }
    @atmosphereCurve
         {
            @key,0 = 0 260
           @key,1 = 1 140
         }    
    }
}

 

 

Edited December 15, 2015 by Fury1SOG

[FlarpingFlipperFlapper]

1 hour ago, Fury1SOG said:

I understand that the RCS was fixed in v1.0.5. Don't know if this helps, but I've successfully adapted monoprop RCS to use LFO using the following MM config in v.1.0.5: 

@PART[blah]:NEEDS[blah]
{
    @MODULE[ModuleRCS]
    {
    @thrusterPower = 3
    @resourceName = LiquidFuel
    PROPELLANT
        {
            name = LiquidFuel
            ratio = 0.9
        }
    PROPELLANT
        {
            name = Oxidizer
            ratio = 1.1
        }
    @atmosphereCurve
         {
            @key,0 = 0 260
           @key,1 = 1 140
         }    
    }
}

 

 

seems fairly simple....so no matter what fuels im using (ex. Kerosene) I must still use "resourceName = LiquidFuel?

[Fury1SOG]

30 minutes ago, FlarpingFlipperFlapper said:

seems fairly simple....so no matter what fuels im using (ex. Kerosene) I must still use "resourceName = LiquidFuel?

Maybe the @resourceName = AEROZINE50_Refined+N2O4_Refined is causing problems?

What happens when you use @resourceName = AEROZINE50_Refined?

[FlarpingFlipperFlapper]

not all the nozzles will fire . Roll control is null and void. Forward and backward linear thrusts fail. Only the rotation nozzle will fire. Its so damn wierd lol

[NathanKell]

@FlarpingFlipperFlapper which version of KSP are you running?

[FlarpingFlipperFlapper]

running linux 1.0.4 x64

[sarbian]

As it was said earlier in the thread the RCS module was fixed in 1.0.5.

[FlarpingFlipperFlapper]

Good to hear, sadly wont be able to get pushed up to 105 yet due to Konstructs not compatible. So to confirm, 1.0.5 adds bi-propellent capability to the RCS?

[Hellbrand]

dude... the Vernor thruster is bi-propellant. Just copy the config over and change the requirements 

[NathanKell]

@Hellbrand As the rest of the thread explains, 1.0.4 and below have a bug with biprop (really, any PROPELLANT-based) RCS thruster with >1 thrust transform.

 

@FlarpingFlipperFlapper use ModuleRCSFX as a bugfix solution then. http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/83259-104-modulercsfx-v42-aug-23-obsolete-in-105/