Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Any one else hear his voice quiver a bit there at the end?But yeah I just watched this myself. It was quite something from the ground.Lol, yea dude struggled to get the words out it seemed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 AngelLestat,This is not an agency, this is a company, when companies fail they die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tygoo7 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Well that sucks, do they know what caused it or are they still looking into it?EDIT: It definitely started at the top. Looks like the second stage or something. Edited June 28, 2015 by tygoo7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SargeRho Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 In the video, it looked as if stage separation failed, and the second stage engine ignited while the first stage was still attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjee10 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 SpaceX are a company that launches rockets, not the bloody second coming. Quite a few people on the internet seem to have difficulty making that distinction.The point is that with this failure, congress is almost certainly going to reduce funding for commercial crew and use it as an excuse to stick with the status quo instead of the guys who can probably change things for the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I knew something was fishy, first time in a while SpaceX launched on first try, without delays, and also carrying heaviest trunk payload yet.If Nova's theory proves to be correct, they can out all the blame on the adapter and not on the rocket itself.No, they've launched without delays before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Yeah, the failures are part of the learning proccess. Gotta find all the failures (or try to) before you go manned, and a manned disaster will likely affect SpaceX even more than any of NASAs or Roscosmos (and it's predescessors) ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 SpaceX should say that was the in-flight abort test for Dragon- they installed super-dracos in secretI'm wondering if it was the nosecone that just blew off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakaydos Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 A gif with previous pictures, overlaid for the rocket to match the position in the frame.The center of the cloud definitely appears to come from the top parts, and there is some flame.http://i.imgur.com/mR7S7yK.gif Flame isnt coming from the leak, it's re-igniting the main engine exaust around the edges. O2 tank failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The point is that with this failure, congress is almost certainly going to reduce funding for commercial crew and use it as an excuse to stick with the status quo instead of the guys who can probably change things for the better.But this is SpaceX, the company those very same internet people say is the paragon of the free market in all it's glory. Surely they don't require government funding?(In all seriousness most of their income is likely to be from commercial GTO launches soon anyway. If they mean what they say, this really isn't a big issue.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 dont worry for ISS's astronauts! there will another spacecraft resupply the ISS THE 3th of July. (Pogress Rocket)That's what they said about this Dragon flight when the last Progress failed to reach orbit. But yeah. Hopefully, we won't see two Progress failures in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbhChallenger Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well there goes the idea of cheap space travel, it's over. ULA wins, SLS wins, humanity will remain trapped on this rock until civilization collapses or technological singularity, and then the only things leaving the planet won't be humans.The absolute worst this can delay "Humanity" is one or two decades. (And that is assuming SpaceX and commercial involvement in NASA collapses completely) However in the grand scheme of things. We are still going to be able to get off this rock. Just a tiny bit longer than we had hoped.Technology moves forward. Eventually the good ole rocket will be hopelessly outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frida Space Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 From SF101: Looking at consumables, ISS would hit reserves in September if no more cargo arrived, but HTV-5 & Progress M-28M will launch before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The absolute worst this can delay "Humanity" is one or two decades. (And that is assuming SpaceX and commercial involvement in NASA collapses completely) However in the grand scheme of things. We are still going to be able to get off this rock. Just a tiny bit longer than we had hoped.Technology moves forward. Eventually the good ole rocket will be hopelessly outdated.Yeah, someday, just someday, we will have a method of launch that doesn't require literally lighting a roman candle under you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karriz Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Hopefully this doesn't set things back too much. I suppose it depends on what caused the explosion, if it was something in Dragon, then the rocket's fine.Such a bummer, but well, they'll learn from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainDreamer Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well, I was going to post a thread about patents related to reentry technology and was going to name it "Going down in flame" but now it doesn't seem appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 AngelLestat,This is not an agency, this is a company, when companies fail they die.History says otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Later today at 12:30 ET there will be a contingency news conference you can watch here at https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html- - - Updated - - -It still crashed.And it still put a payload into orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well, I was going to post a thread about patents related to reentry technology and was going to name it "Going down in flame" but now it doesn't seem appropriate.How about 'descending through plasma'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbhChallenger Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 That's what they said about this Dragon flight when the last Progress failed to reach orbit. But yeah. Hopefully, we won't see two Progress failures in a row.Progress alone was never enough to keep the station supplied. Progress will merely delay decrewing if they can't rapidly fix dragon.It is interesting tho. Because of the dire situation of supplies onboard the station. I can theoretically see NASA approving an emergency launch of an already flown dragon. Congress would approve it over leaving the multi billion dollar station unmanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 But this is SpaceX, the company those very same internet people say is the paragon of the free market in all it's glory. Surely they don't require government funding?(In all seriousness most of their income is likely to be from commercial GTO launches soon anyway. If they mean what they say, this really isn't a big issue.)I think your arguing for something else, benjee10 is implying is this is the end of the idea of cheap commercial space travel, and considering it has been 40+ years since we have gone beyond low earth orbit, government space is no future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjee10 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 But this is SpaceX, the company those very same internet people say is the paragon of the free market in all it's glory. Surely they don't require government funding?They probably don't, but it was certainly accelerating things (I can't imagine a company developing a crew capsule purely in their spare time on the off-chance that someone wants to buy a trip to space), and now their reputation has certainly taken a hit. If I were someone with a delicate satellite I wanted launching I wouldn't be knocking on SpaceX's door to do it after they've broadcast their launch failure live to thousands of people on the internet. Sure failure is a part of the learning process and all that but public opinion and the numbskulls at congress are going to be against them. If NASA sticks by them and they continue to receive funding then they may have a chance, but this sort of failure could cost them very dearly. I'm sure Boeing won't be too happy about their docking adapter being blown up by a rival company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karriz Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 AngelLestat,This is not an agency, this is a company, when companies fail they die.SpaceX has really good track record, one explosion isn't going to ruin everything. They'll find the problem, fix it, and fly again. They have plenty of money and time.Worst case scenario would be if they don't find out what caused the explosion. That would be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frida Space Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I hope, although it seems very unlikely, that's is something related to Dragon. If it's the rocket, they'll have to ground it and potentially lose clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space.exe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 And it still put a payload into orbit.It still crashed/did not preform the desired output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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