landing gear issues 1.1.2

[maybach123]

My landing gear keep breaking because they are over stressed even when i come down at .5m/s. I cant tell if this is a bug in the game or if this is a new adjustment setting in ksp. Help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

[Alshain]

It's a well documented issue.

[maybach123]

Just now, Alshain said:

It's a well documented issue.

ok I was just making sure it wasn't something i have done.

[Raptor9]

If you're referring to plane/spaceplane landing gear than I believe it may be an issue of weight-bearing capacity.  Not sure what landing gear you're using, but some of my heavier fighter planes like my Su-35 and F-15-sized aircraft had to have their main landing gear upgraded one notch.  As I pulled back on the stick, the rear tailplanes pushed the tail down, which initially compressed the rear landing gear, causing them to fail if I pulled the nose up aggressively enough.  Since upgrading the the gear, haven't had any issues.

[maybach123]

3 minutes ago, Raptor9 said:

If you're referring to plane/spaceplane landing gear than I believe it may be an issue of weight-bearing capacity.  Not sure what landing gear you're using, but some of my heavier fighter planes like my Su-35 and F-15-sized aircraft had to have their main landing gear upgraded one notch.  As I pulled back on the stick, the rear tailplanes pushed the tail down, which initially compressed the rear landing gear, causing them to fail if I pulled the nose up aggressively enough.  Since upgrading the the gear, haven't had any issues.

sorry meant landing strut 

[Raptor9]

1 minute ago, maybach123 said:

sorry meant landing strut 

oh. 

Edited May 4, 2016 by Raptor9

[maybach123]

Just now, Raptor9 said:

oh.

sorry forgot that in ksp they mean different things

[Alshain]

3 minutes ago, maybach123 said:

sorry meant landing strut 

Landing Legs.  I was referring to landing gear too, I'm not aware of issues with over-stressing landing legs, unless you really are over-stressing them in which case use bigger legs or a lighter craft.

[Renegrade]

I haven't had any issues lately with landing struts breaking.  They did in prior versions though.  My problems with 'em in 1.1.2 usually involve phantom forces / k-drive effects.

[maybach123]

1 minute ago, Alshain said:

Landing Legs.  I was referring to landing gear too, I'm not aware of issues with over-stressing landing legs, unless you really are over-stressing them in which case use bigger legs or a lighter craft.

Im not sure how i would be over stressing them it has happened every time (with different craft and legs) and i am consistently under 1m/s.

[Znath]

For now KSP is mostly S because interactions with terrain are super buggy.

I've tried a lot to compensate for the weakness with extra bracing but it doesn't seem to help a lot.  So I guess it's waiting for 1.1.2.1?

[herbal space program]

1 hour ago, Alshain said:

It's a well documented issue.

Could you please tell me where to look up the discussion? I can't seem to find it in any of the obvious places, and I'm having trouble working around it on my own. Or maybe I'm having a different sort of bug, but I can't seem to get down the runway anymore.

[Alshain]

1 hour ago, herbal space program said:

Could you please tell me where to look up the discussion? I can't seem to find it in any of the obvious places, and I'm having trouble working around it on my own. Or maybe I'm having a different sort of bug, but I can't seem to get down the runway anymore.

Read on, I was talking about landing gear, not legs.

[regex]

All landing gear and legs have mass and impact tolerances now.  If yours get over-stressed, try adding more or moving up to the next size.

[Curveball Anders]

Was a bit worried when I designed my latest lander since I've been reading all the horror stories about bugged/broken landing struts.

But 4x LT-2 on a 17.5 ton lander had no issues landing on the mün.

Even if one hilariously enough exploded when a clumsy Kerbal on EVA managed to walk into it

 

[herbal space program]

15 hours ago, Alshain said:

Read on, I was talking about landing gear, not legs.

Actually I was talking about landing gear as well, but as it turns out the really weird behavior I was getting seems to have been an installation-specific issue.

[Basto]

6 hours ago, Curveball Anders said:

Was a bit worried when I designed my latest lander since I've been reading all the horror stories about bugged/broken landing struts.

But 4x LT-2 on a 17.5 ton lander had no issues landing on the mün.

Even if one hilariously enough exploded when a clumsy Kerbal on EVA managed to walk into it

 

Yeah had this happen too. I haven't had any other landing leg issues in 1.1.2 though. 

My questions to the OP would be are you certain you are running 1.1.2 and are you running any mods. 

[moppaking]

I'm having trouble with the fixed landing gears (LY-01 Fixed gear, earliest tech node) as well. I can not possibly even get a plane in the air with them, the craft would swing from left to right and so on. I guess what @regex said is the reason for this. I made some work-around by also adding a pair of LY05 gear at the back, which at least lets me take off and land with high caution. Another thing was adding a strut from the wheelbase to the body of the craft, but it was not as stable as the previous fix.

So I guess the biggest issue is not the landing gear itself, but the expectations. I mean, I unlocked only a couple of plane parts in the first aviation node. I still have my hangar at tier 1 so i can only use 30 parts at maximum. I only have four of the mk0 fuel tanks on the craft, the rest is very light-weight. So I expected the provided early tech landing gear can handle whatever I can throw together with all these (light-weight) parts. Obviously, this is a wrong assumption that remained from my previous career creations where the fixed landing gears would do the job.

Edited May 5, 2016 by moppaking