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What do you hate that space agencies are not doing, which is possible?


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  On 5/28/2016 at 8:24 AM, RenegadeRad said:

I really hate the wiring, man they can't arrange it properly and attach it in a planned and symmetrical way at the ship walls, or make it contained like modern tech and stuff... OCD... 

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WTF? Seriously, form follows function, not aesthetic. Show what is that bad.

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Well, from the limited information I have... it seems that SpaceX would handily win an open competition against other launch capability providers.

* a Europa/Enceledus lander rather than this BS of manned lunar flights again

* A robotic mars mission to the "Martian Geysers" which may conceivably provide a habitable zone

* A robotic mars mission to a martian cave to look at the conditions away from the surface (radiation shielding makes it more likely that biological signatures may remain.. though perchlorates could still be a major problem

*A mission to Hellas Planitia... it gets above the tripple point of water there.

* A mission to one of the major river channels on Mars, it would be so awesome to find fossil biofilms, but so far, nothing has turned up.... viking 1 and viking 2 couldn't go roving, and landed where the ocean used to be fairly deep, and wouldn't have been shallow until the seas were disappearing and becoming a lot less hospitable (possibly freezing long before that and sublimating away)

Gale crater, where curiosity is... its unclear how long it had water

* Nuclear-Electric propulsion (ie nuclear powered Ion drives, rather than the wimpy solar powered ones)

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I wouldn't call it "hate" or something similarly melodramatic, but I am disappointed that nobody has genuinely tried studying artificial gravity through centrifugal force. You know, with actual hardware in space and stuff.

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  On 5/28/2016 at 9:15 PM, Streetwind said:

I wouldn't call it "hate" or something similarly melodramatic, but I am disappointed that nobody has genuinely tried studying artificial gravity through centrifugal force. You know, with actual hardware in space and stuff.

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You mean the Centrifuge Accommodations Module?  They made it.  I don't mean they made a blueprint or a anything like that.  They almost finished making it but it was never put on the ISS due to funding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifuge_Accommodations_Module

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  On 5/29/2016 at 3:29 PM, tater said:

Space agencies are part of the government, and the only thing the government can do with an economy is screw it up, they certainly can't create an economy.

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This is too political for this group and its wrong. 

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It was political to suggest that space agencies could create an economy where none exists. There is either a market for something, or there isn't. A false economy of servicing an agency isn't a real economy.

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  On 5/28/2016 at 9:15 PM, Streetwind said:

I wouldn't call it "hate" or something similarly melodramatic, but I am disappointed that nobody has genuinely tried studying artificial gravity through centrifugal force. You know, with actual hardware in space and stuff.

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There was a Voskhod mission prepared for that, but it got canceled in favor of N1-L3 and 7K-OK (later Soyuz) projects. 
 

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  On 5/29/2016 at 2:53 PM, ValleyTwo said:

You mean the Centrifuge Accommodations Module?  They made it.  I don't mean they made a blueprint or a anything like that.  They almost finished making it but it was never put on the ISS due to funding.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifuge_Accommodations_Module

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Yes, precisely. I am disappointed that nothing came of it.

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  On 5/28/2016 at 9:15 PM, Streetwind said:

I wouldn't call it "hate" or something similarly melodramatic, but I am disappointed that nobody has genuinely tried studying artificial gravity through centrifugal force. You know, with actual hardware in space and stuff.

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Well, there was Gemini 11. They generated about 0.00015g while tethered to their Agena.

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