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Alshain

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1 minute ago, Temeter said:

No, we're talkingabout points in the air between beginning and end of the interstage fairing.^^

Oh, that sounds kinda strange.  But I guess you can do that already with the Move tool, I won't do that I think it's cheaty, but that is my opinion.

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Temeter

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2 minutes ago, Alshain said:

Oh, that sounds kinda strange.  But I guess you can do that already with the Move tool

I might be wrong about them... Idk, now I'm confused. Looks cool in any way.

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I won't do that I think it's cheaty, but that is my opinion.

Why would that stop you? Put 4 struts from the 'floating' cargo to the fairing base, and it looks believable.

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Wjolcz

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OK, I take it back. The antennae feature looks pretty fun. And the rest of it too, of course.

EDIT: Not the contract weighting though. The whole career is still rubbish.

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EliasDanger

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This looks like a solid update. Can't wait to test it out. Consider me hyped.

Still think a delta-v calculator woulda helped. That's the main thing that bugs me everytime I go back to stock. I can deal with no clouds or life support or all the other awesome things mods do...but a delta-v display, its so hard for me to understand why that has never been implemented. It's soooo useful. It's like losing a leg for a foot race not knowing the delta-v or twr of the ship you're building unless you do you're own algebra. I shouldn't have to have a spreadsheet open to design a ship in a video game, dern it!

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Alshain

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3 hours ago, Temeter said:

Man, I guess your space program just doesn't know how to strust things :D

No, it's just my perception of what a 'strut' is.  To me it's a braided steel cable, that can't stand up and support something rigidly.

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TiktaalikDreaming

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3 hours ago, EliasDanger said:

This looks like a solid update. Can't wait to test it out. Consider me hyped.

Still think a delta-v calculator woulda helped. That's the main thing that bugs me everytime I go back to stock. I can deal with no clouds or life support or all the other awesome things mods do...but a delta-v display, its so hard for me to understand why that has never been implemented. It's soooo useful. It's like losing a leg for a foot race not knowing the delta-v or twr of the ship you're building unless you do you're own algebra. I shouldn't have to have a spreadsheet open to design a ship in a video game, dern it!

Being able to see periapsis and apoapsis without going to the map view would also be nice.

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Temeter

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7 hours ago, Alshain said:

No, it's just my perception of what a 'strut' is.  To me it's a braided steel cable, that can't stand up and support something rigidly.

Really? To me they are more like rigid steel bars (see pic), fits the look better. How would a steel cable avoid being compressed?

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1 hour ago, Temeter said:

Really? To me they are more like rigid steel bars (see pic), fits the look better. How would a steel cable avoid being compressed?

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Not only does it fit my impression too, but I remember Squad mentioning at some point (a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.... ) that struts do take both compression and tension loads equally.  So the analogy of a rigid bar is more accurate from that perspective. 

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OndrikB

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Just now, Zaphod12 said:

It was mentioned earlier that 1.2 pre-release will also come to KSP Store.

Nice!

btw sorry for not paying attention to what was mentioned "earlier", but I have better things to do than reading through 13 pages. (Nothing to be taken bad)

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Zaphod12

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Just now, OndrikB said:

Nice!

btw sorry for not paying attention to what was mentioned "earlier", but I have better things to do than reading through 13 pages. (Nothing to be taken bad)

I was just mentioning it.

Anyways, looking forward to build relay networks.

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1 hour ago, OndrikB said:

Nice!

btw sorry for not paying attention to what was mentioned "earlier", but I have better things to do than reading through 13 pages. (Nothing to be taken bad)

Here's where it was first announced.

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Myslius

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Big thanks to Squad for this awesome update!

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The Communication & Many Quality of Life stuff Update - KSP 1.2 Changes:
Community Patchnotes Collaboration by: Myslius, TheDigitalChan and others?

* KerbNet - remote control and communication for probes, multiple tracking stations (ground based) on Kerbin, new antennas, Satellite probes can bounce signals if possible/needed,       
Antenna range is calculated with this formula; Sqrt(antenna1 *antenna2)
Upgrading the Antenna-Building on Kerbin improves the range & strength
Bodies can occlude signals e.g. Kerbin, Mün, Duna, Kerbol. (Asteroids can't occlude signals yet)
* Waypoint management, Surface map with biomes, terrain, coordinates and lots of colour options
* Hibernation-mode for probes to use less electricity.(Probe still has basic functions in hibernation-mode, you can still stage, probes can't do fine-controls in this mode)
* Asteroids might have Magic boulder texture (and contain bigger ore concenteration?)
* Autostrut - ability to make invisible strut while in VAB or in flight with a button click, (Struts are shown in the VAB/SPH) (Strut options are; "On heaviest part" or "On root part"), (Stuts update during the launch), (You can see the struts if you have the option on in the Cheat-Window; under Physics, during the flight.)
* SAS no longer overshoots and no longer fights with itself
* Better patch conics - Maneuver nodes no longer disapear or flicker, closest approach markers are more reliable
* RCS sounds (More arcade-like version of reallife RCS thrusters)
* RCS Colour; Normal-Control = White puffs, Fine-Controls = Blue-ish?
* RCS effects reworked (RCS is more Puffy now)
* New model for Puff engine
* Point camera to the center of any part from context menu
* Cheats window reworked - Set orbit functionality added, hack gravity with the ability to set gravity from 0.01G to 10Gs, Whack-A-Kerbal is still there, renamed to object thrower (lame :( ). Create custom kerbals (name, choose gender, stupidity, courage, B@dAss, experience)
* Game difficulty option "Kerbals level up immediately"
* Science storage part with the ability to collect all experiments with single click, also some probes have this ability too
* Changes in Aerodynamics - pointy parts are less dragy and blunt parts are more dragy
* Aerodynamic stuff on wings are now calculated from the center of the part instead of the end of the part(Thus better calculations for planes) 
* Fairings - model changes and multiple attachment points.
* "Tons of parts" physics calculation improved
* Settings - ability not to autohide navball while switching to the map view, custom tweakables
* Kerbals die in EVA at 9Gs
* Kerbal EVA control system overhauled; WITH SAS: movement is like previous versions, WITHOUT SAS: Kerbals don't follow the direction of the camera/With the mouse you can control the kerbal more.
* Added more Kerbal names? ->cuz more devs
* UI Overhaul; fancier font, more UI options/tweakables
* BUGFIX:Kerbals on ladder don't "shift"
* More cockpits have lights and doors that shine in the dark
* (Rover)Wheels are more stable, (possibly landing gears are still iffy)
* Fuel System Overhaul - with added "fuel tank priority tweakable", visual fuel flow (including EC)
* Carreer settings are more detailed, again more tweakables, more sliders and more multipliers
* More Career missions?
* Reduced loadingscreen times, addition loading screens e.g. Boping Bob
* Ablators are no longer simulating blackhole effects
* Water physics are made better, crafts are more stable in the water
* You can no longer gain "Flying above X" eva-science while on ladders
* Hovering on parts gives a more distinct highlight of the part
* Un-added parts in the VAB and SPH are now highlighted red. (Possibly a feature in the options)
* "Communitron 16" antenna can now break off if enough force is applied
* You can now save & load in flight. (different from quicksave)
* Parachutes have the ability to "deploy instantly", "when safe" or "when risky" (With Advanced Tweakables)
* You can now disable Engine Gimbal seperatly(Roll, Pitch, Yaw) (With Advanced Tweakables)
* Rocket Landing gears no longer have a collision with kerbals(Thus fixing a bug)

NOTE: If you want the advanced tweakables, you need to turn it on in the options. Somehow it is not default
Rocket Parts overhaul has been delayed, possibly to 1.3

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