tetryds Posted May 13, 2015 Author Share Posted May 13, 2015 Tentei fazer isso, mas com meu aviao, ounão era suficiente, ou perdia o controle... de qualquer maneira, resolvi com um foguete tradicional ... obrigado !De nada!Normalmente perde o controle por que o motor é pesado e puxa o centro de massa pra trás.Que bom que conseguiu, agora é só ir aprimorando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorpasini Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Como descobrir quais mods ou erros estão dando crash no jogo???O programa gera 2 arquivos:1) errorUnity Player [version: Unity 4.6.4f1_99f88340878d]mono.dll caused an Access Violation (0xc0000005) in module mono.dll at 0023:1011940a.Error occurred at 2015-05-15_231140.D:\Steam\steamapps\common\Kerbal Space Program\KSP.exe, run by Junior.55% memory in use.0 MB physical memory [0 MB free].0 MB paging file [0 MB free].0 MB user address space [116 MB free].Write to location 00400000 caused an access violation.Context:EDI: 0x00200000 ESI: 0xba3ba8b0 EAX: 0x00008000EBX: 0x59e754a8 ECX: 0x00400000 EDX: 0x00000000EIP: 0x1011940a EBP: 0x00fa0964 SegCs: 0x00000023EFlags: 0x00010206 ESP: 0x00fa0940 SegSs: 0x0000002bBytes at CS:EIP:66 0f 7f 01 66 0f 7f 41 10 66 0f 7f 41 20 66 0f Stack:0x00fa0940: 59e754a8 00400000 10004b0e 00400000 [email protected]....@.0x00fa0950: 00000000 00400000 00200000 00100000 ......@... .....0x00fa0960: ba3ba8b0 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Company: Microsoft Corporation Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System FileDesc: NSI User-mode interface DLL FileVer: 6.1.7600.16385 ProdVer: 6.1.7600.16385Module 83C:\Windows\SysWOW64\ntdll.dllImage Base: 0x77e10000 Image Size: 0x00180000File Size: 1310744 File Time: 2015-04-27_160804Version: Company: Microsoft Corporation Product: Sistema Operacional Microsoft® Windows® FileDesc: DLL de nÃÂvel do NT FileVer: 6.1.7601.18839 ProdVer: 6.1.7601.18839Module 84C:\Windows\system32\dbghelp.dllImage Base: 0x70c80000 Image Size: 0x000eb000File Size: 854016 File Time: 2010-11-21_002410Version: Company: Microsoft Corporation Product: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System FileDesc: Windows Image Helper FileVer: 6.1.7601.17514 ProdVer: 6.1.7601.17514== [end of error.log] ==2) Output logMinha pergunta é, como eu descubro o que está errado dentro desses arquivos!!! 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Sturmgeschutz Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Junior, retire todos os mods do jogo. Pelo que eu pesquisei, isso é problema na memória. Qual é a quantidade de memória que você tem instalada no seu PC ???- Especifique as configurações do seu PC- Se seu PC for 64 bits, inicie o KSP pelo executável em 64x Edited May 17, 2015 by Brendo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted May 17, 2015 Author Share Posted May 17, 2015 @Juniorpasini:Como o Brendo disse, isso pode ser um problema de memória.Quanto de RAM tem o seu computador?O output log é o que permite saber o que está causando o erro.Faça upload dele pro dropbox e compartilhe por favor.Como o Brendo disse, você pode estar usando mods demais ou mods muito pesados.Porém na versão 1.0 não existe executável x64 do KSP, foi removido por ser instável.Isso significa que o jogo só pode usar até 3,4GB de RAM, mesmo que você tenha mais do que isso, se os mods precisarem de mais, vai crashar.Se o problema for mods invompatÃÂveis será possÃÂvel saber com o output log.Sobre o seu problema no EVA, sei quw o KIS modifica esse modo, pode ser isso. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorpasini Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) Boa Noite desculpa a memória,tenho 16 giga de ram, i7-4770 3,4GHz Windows 7 x64Nvidia GTX 560Os 3 ultimos logs de erro:https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhd29hgkumz14mv/output_log1.txt?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/b02l11owkyds1oe/output_log2.txt?dl=0https://www.dropbox.com/s/u86jg917l89wx4m/output_log3.txt?dl=0Quanto ao x64, depois da versão 1.0.3 não existe mais atalho para x64 na pasta default do ksp, como eu uso um monte de mods, a maioria não é compatÃÂvel com x64 segue foto:tetrydsSobre o problema do EVA descobri o erro, era o mod Tasier que estava dando problema, foi só deletar ele que resolveu o problema!!! Edited May 18, 2015 by Juniorpasini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted May 18, 2015 Author Share Posted May 18, 2015 É bem claro que você tem mods demais uahsuahsushsu.Como eu disse, o KSP só pode usar 3.4GB de RAM, não importa o quanto você tenha.Mesmo assim vale a pena tentar algumas coisas:Verifique se todos os mods foram lançados para a 1.0Tente adicionar -force-opengl no argumento do atalho (tem no primeiro post desse tópico).Procure nos tópicos de cada um dos mods se nenhum deles diz ter incompatibilidades com outros mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmgeschutz Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Se o atalho com -force-opengl não funcionar o tente -popupwindowMais cara sério ai tens um 5GB de mods '-' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorpasini Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Irei tentar o opengl, mas pelos logs não dá para chegar a nenhuma conclusão?O que eu procuro dentro deles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmgeschutz Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Geralmente, os logs mostram o código do erro, no seu caso é 0xc0000005, a única coisa que achei sobre ele é sobre o excesso de memória, o KSP não pode processar mais que o valor que o tetryds falou acima. Agora, pode existir um plugin que deixe o KSP processar mais, mais isso poderia causar problemas, mesmo com um PC bom como o seu. Abrir mão dos mods visuais é uma boa opção. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juniorpasini Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Boa Noite pessoal,o crash resolveu, era memória mesmo (aparentemente), usei o -force-opengl no atalho e o jogo rodou durante 4 horas, mudando de vessels e não deu um problema sequer, a unica coisa que eu notei é que parece que o anti aliasing não funciona mais, ou seja, as bordas ficam serrilhadas provavelmente para diminuir o uso de memória.Valeu pessoal, segue uma foto da minha estação de controle e lançamento de unidades!! ahuahuahua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturmgeschutz Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Huehuehuehue que dlç de estação de controle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 E eu achando q eu levava o jogo a sério demais... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo6496 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Pessoal essa nave e suficiente para ir a Duna e Voltar??Essa é ela indo pra duna. Ela so tem 2.100 para fazer isso.E essa é ela voltando. Com 3.200.Ela também terá de orbitar IKE no primeiro Estagio (2.100 Dv) . Pois o lander ira pousar em IKE e DUNA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 se fizer a transferencia orbital pra Duna direito, da e sobra... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 qual o melhor jeito de fazer aviões hypersonicos e tal sem q o stock heating exploda eles? :c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 coloca um heatshield na frente... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 mas dai ele n fica menos aerodinamico? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climberfx Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Não heat shield, não. Usa os fairings stock mano!Fica show! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 dai eu faço uma ponta de fairing gigantesca na frente do aviao pra protege ele intero? o_e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthWall Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Não heat shield, não. Usa os fairings stock mano!Fica show!Não entendi como cobrir um avião com heatshield ou fairings o.O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 so sei q da pra usar elas de bico pq elas aguenta ate 2,400 c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 então... faz o bico de fairing e as asas de heatshield.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 e como q eu ia faze as asas de heatshield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luizopiloto Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 pega uma asa e coloca uns heatshields em baixo dela... ou então faz sem asa mesmo... fuselagem gera lift agora... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 deviam adicionar heatshield igual os dos onibus espaciais, pra serem colocados na fuselagem e tal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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