Parts rotated 90 degrees in VAB

[OrbitalBuzzsaw]

Let's add an option to rotate all parts 90 degrees ( 1 "Q" press) when you place them. It allows you to use W instead of D, and it's a tiny little change. I do this by hand, and we should have this ability anyway. Who's with me!

[EpicSpaceTroll139]

Wait...what? Could you elaborate? 

If you're talking about rotating your ship, your can just click on the root part and rotate the whole ship by rotating it.

[OrbitalBuzzsaw]

On 11/2/2016 at 5:28 PM, EpicSpaceTroll139 said:

Wait...what? Could you elaborate? 

If you're talking about rotating your ship, your can just click on the root part and rotate the whole ship by rotating it.

No, when you grab parts in the VAB, they're already rotated.

[EpicSpaceTroll139]

...what? When you grab them from the parts menu, they will be in the default orientation. Their orientation doesn't change until you hit the qewasd keys. I don't see how they could be "already rotated." There isn't any orientation for them to be rotated from than the one they start off as.

 

...I feel like there's something that's not being conveyed here... You say they're rotated 90 degrees... but from what?

Edited November 11, 2016 by EpicSpaceTroll139

[razark]

He's saying that there should be an option such that when he places a Mk1 Command Pod, the hatch is facing directly east (or west?), rather than south, and that all parts should be in a similar orientation, exactly 90 degrees from the way they currently are by default, so that he does not need to rotate the entire ship (or each piece as it is placed).  This is probably due to the fact that it is a slight annoyance to do it every time, and it is sometimes easy to forget, or to mess up if one needs to rebuild a portion of a ship.

Good idea, OP.

[Allocthonous]

Basically a 'select default VAB orientation' option in the menu? I could get behind that. The idea of using what are really the yaw controls to determine ascent angle has always driven me bonkers, so the root part gets rotated by 90 every time right now.

[OrbitalBuzzsaw]

15 hours ago, EpicSpaceTroll139 said:

...what? When you grab them from the parts menu, they will be in the default orientation. Their orientation doesn't change until you hit the qewasd keys. I don't see how they could be "already rotated." There isn't any orientation for them to be rotated from than the one they start off as.

 

...I feel like there's something that's not being conveyed here... You say they're rotated 90 degrees... but from what?

Yeah, you change the default rotation.

[EpicSpaceTroll139]

1 hour ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

 

Ah, with these other people mentioning the ascent, this makes more sense now. I wasn't getting anything about stuff outside the editor from your OP, so I was befuddled.

What's funny is that building in the VAB used to be aligned East-West, and the rockets got rotated 90 degrees when being put on the launchpad. So they always ended up aligned North-South.

People didn't like that the orientatchanged between scenes, so now they start aligned North-South stay that way on the launchpad. 

I guess wanting to have an option to make both of them East-West, is reasonable. Might be a little harder than simply rotating the parts though, because they'd also have to get the symmetry code to recognize the new orientation too.

[OrbitalBuzzsaw]

Just now, EpicSpaceTroll139 said:

 

Ah, with these other people mentioning the ascent, this makes more sense now. I wasn't getting anything about stuff outside the editor from your OP, so I was befuddled.

What's funny is that building in the VAB used to be aligned East-West, and the rockets got rotated 90 degrees when being put on the launchpad. So they always ended up aligned North-South.

People didn't like that the orientatchanged between scenes, so now they start aligned North-South stay that way on the launchpad. 

I guess wanting to have an option to make both of them East-West, is reasonable. Might be a little harder than simply rotating the parts though, because they'd also have to get the symmetry code to recognize the new orientation too.

Yeah, but it'd be nice to have

[DrunkenKerbalnaut]

Why not build the rocket, then rotate it?

[monstah]

On 12/11/2016 at 0:12 PM, EpicSpaceTroll139 said:

What's funny is that building in the VAB used to be aligned East-West, and the rockets got rotated 90 degrees when being put on the launchpad. So they always ended up aligned North-South.

People didn't like that the orientatchanged between scenes, so now they start aligned North-South stay that way on the launchpad. 

I already said this on some other topic on this subject, but I always thought this was the wrong fix - I'd also like my default orientation to be the one with the keel pointing east so a gravity turn is "pitch down". I don't suppose Squad will change this, tho, since it was a deliberate change made quite some versions ago.