Kryten Posted June 29, 2017 Author Share Posted June 29, 2017 Two bits of news; 1) the next launch us supposed to happen within the next six weeks; https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-06-29/at-18-he-strapped-a-rocket-engine-to-his-bike-now-he-s-taking-on-spacex 2) RL are going to stream the next two test flights; https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/progress-update-june/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Awesome. Let's hope they make it all the way this time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Some interesting tweets coming out from Rocketlab right now, guys. I'm on mobile so I'll just paraphrase: the failure to reach orbit on the test launch was due to a misconfigured piece of ground equipment owned by a third party, and should be an "easy fix." Eh, flarp it. This is interesting enough to drag my tired S out of bed and walk 30 feet to the computer. OK, nevermind, even on an actual computer tweets aren't embedding. Flarp this flarping forum software, I'm going back to bed. Eventually. Instead of tweets, here's a meme: Apparently the launch was going just fine until thanks to some third party twit the signal burped, they lost contact for a moment, and following procedure, they blew the darn thing up. Poor Electron. IiiiiithinkIcanIthinkIcanIthinkIcanIthinkIcanIthinkIcani*urp*BOOM! ETA: Seriously, forum? Seriously? Tweets WILL work but I have to past as plain text?! OK I really am going back to bed this time. Maybe. The wife'll probably smack me for waking her up. Edited August 7, 2017 by CatastrophicFailure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedKraken Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) from https://www.rocketlabusa.com/latest/rocket-lab-completes-post-flight-analysis/ " Rocket Lab has completed an internal review of data from its May 25 test flight of its Electron rocket. The review found the launch had to be terminated due to an independent contractor’s ground equipment issue, rather than an issue with the rocket. Rocket Lab’s investigation board has identified the root causes and corrective actions. The Federal Aviation Administration, the primary body responsible for licensing the launch, has overseen Rocket Lab’s comprehensive investigation and will review the findings. Rocket Lab’s engineers have spent the last two months working through an extensive fault tree analysis to ensure all factors that may have influenced the outcome of the launch were thoroughly evaluated. The investigation involved the review of over 25,000 channels of data collected during the flight in addition to extensive testing at Rocket Lab facilities in California and New Zealand. Rocket Lab’s investigation team determined the launch, named ‘It’s a Test’, was terminated due to a data loss time out, which was caused by misconfiguration of telemetry equipment owned and operated by a third-party contractor who was supporting the launch from Rocket Lab’s Launch Complex 1. Four minutes into the flight, at an altitude of 224 km, the equipment lost contact with the rocket temporarily and, according to standard operating procedures, range safety officials terminated the flight. Data, including that from Rocket Lab’s own telemetry equipment, confirmed the rocket was following a nominal trajectory and the vehicle was performing as planned at the time of termination. “We have demonstrated Electron was following its nominal trajectory and was on course to reach orbit,” said Peter Beck, Rocket Lab CEO. “While it was disappointing to see the flight terminated in essence due to an incorrect tick box. We can say we tested nearly everything, including the flight termination system. We were delighted with the amount of data we were able to collect during an exceptional first test launch. Rocket Lab’s telemetry systems provided data verifying Electrons capabilities and providing us with high confidence ahead of our second test flight. The call to terminate a launch would be tough for anyone, and we appreciated the professionalism of the flight safety officials involved.” The telemetry data loss that led to the termination of the flight has been directly linked to a key piece of equipment responsible for translating radio signals into data used by safety officials to track the vehicle performance. It was discovered a contractor failed to enable forward error correction on this third-party device causing extensive corruption of received position data. The failure was first indicated by the fact that Rocket Lab’s own equipment did not suffer similar data loss during launch. Further confirmation of the cause was demonstrated when replaying raw radio-frequency data - recorded on launch day - through correctly configured equipment also resolved the problem. The fix for the issue is simple and corrective procedures have been put in place to prevent a similar issue in future. No major changes to the Electron launch vehicle hardware have been required and the company has authorized the production of four additional launch vehicles as it prepares for commercial operations ahead of the test flight program. Rocket Lab’s second Electron rocket, named ‘Still Testing’, is undergoing final checks and preparations ahead of being shipped to Rocket Lab Launch Complex 1 shortly. " Edited August 7, 2017 by RedKraken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Haha. "Still Testing." I wonder what the third one will be called! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: Haha. "Still Testing." I wonder what the third one will be called! "Testing ‽" if it fails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: Haha. "Still Testing." I wonder what the third one will be called! "This Time, For Sure! No, Seriously, We Mean It This time. Absolutely." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 23 minutes ago, YNM said: "Testing ‽" if it fails. Third Time Lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, KSK said: Third Time Lucky? Testing... On Ice . Oh wait, that'd just freeze the LOX... Edited August 7, 2017 by YNM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 hour ago, YNM said: Testing... On Ice . Oh wait, that'd just freeze the LOX... Not technically true, if it's water ice it would boil the LOX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 "Testing, 1, 2, 3"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linuxgurugamer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: Haha. "Still Testing." I wonder what the third one will be called! Final Countdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaelommiss Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: Haha. "Still Testing." I wonder what the third one will be called! Depending on how well the second launch goes it'll be either "Look Ma! No Hands!" or "Hold My Beer". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 5 hours ago, YNM said: "Testing ‽" if it fails. ...Known internally as "USS Interrobang." 5 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: "This Time, For Sure! No, Seriously, We Mean It This time. Absolutely." This sounds like one of my KSP craft file names. For example, in my RO/RP-0 career, I have "Spoice 1," "Spoice 1 Testing," "Spoice 1 Testing 2, 3, 4, and 6" (I skipped 5 for some reason), and by the time I'm done with it, I'll have a "Spoice 1 non-test 7 v2.1.6 revision 8 FOR ABSOLUTE REALS (Final)." 3 hours ago, YNM said: Testing... On Ice . Oh wait, that'd just freeze the LOX... Water ice wouldn't. Oxygen ice would. Tungsten ice would probably be fine. If we got Hydrogen Ice we'd have a much greater scientific discovery in our hands than a rocket launch. But, we'll have to stick with Carbon ice for the time being. 1 hour ago, MaverickSawyer said: "Testing, 1, 2, 3"? The one after that would be "Testing, Testing, is this thing on?" 53 minutes ago, Jaelommiss said: Depending on how well the second launch goes it'll be either "Look Ma! No Hands!" or "Hold My Beer". This whole thing is making me realize that more people would be into spaceflight if the KSP forum got to name all of the missions! 1 hour ago, linuxgurugamer said: Final Countdown How did you know what my favorite song is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 26 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: Tungsten ice would probably be fine. Tungsten ice, otherwise known as Tungsten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekL1963 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: This whole thing is making me realize that more people would be into spaceflight if the KSP forum got to name all of the missions! McJeb McRocketface? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: This whole thing is making me realize that more people would be into spaceflight if the KSP forum got to name all of the missions! "Ye Olde Trash Bin o'Boom... Mk IV" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Well, actually, if the problem really is that simple and #2 goes well, they can probably start calling #3+ RevenueStream . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) As a side note: upon being asked about the excessive amounts of roll during the first launch, the Rocket Lab twitter spokesperson stated that it was within constraints for that launch. Future launches will have those constraints tightened. Next launch currently planned (and subject to change) for around two months from now. Edited August 8, 2017 by Streetwind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Good article here: https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/08/13/rocket-lab-finishes-test-flight-inquiry-plans-second-launch-later-this-year/ Apparently the excessive roll during first stage burn really was deliberate, to a point, so they could study how the interaction of the nine exhaust plumes crated roll torque on the rocket. Despite not making orbit, they did make it to space, so they got to test the living snot out of everything (even the flight termination system ), and everything performed as expected. Except Murray the cable guy, unfortunately. Next rocket is due to be delivered to the launch site in October, and while still a highly instrumented test, will carry several cubesats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kryten Posted August 14, 2017 Author Share Posted August 14, 2017 (edited) I doubt the GSE is the sole problem they noticed during the flight. For a start they said before the launch that the next two rockets were already ready, so why the wait to at least October? Edited August 15, 2017 by Kryten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Like most things in the aerospace industry, if you rush things with a new rocket, it tends to go badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 It lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I wonder if the use the flight batteries for static fire tests, or if they get replaced after because the high load ruins them. ...Or maybe they plug it into an outlet for the test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight4449 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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