CatastrophicFailure Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said: I still don't get why the Air Force asked for this, there isn't any extra risk involved on their end... if they still want to be picky about reused cores, then that's fine, but what difference does the landing make if the payload is so lightweight? Probably didn't want to make ULA feel upstaged. It is the Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle program, after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncongruousGoat Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 4 hours ago, tater said: That related to the fact there might be a couple day slip from the current January date for operational reasons at SpaceX, since it would be better for them to only have to deal with 1 spacecraft at a time on this first D2 flight. I sincerely hope there won't be a delay. I'm going to be in Florida within driving distance of the Cape on the 7th, but I'm flying home the next day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Alright... the entire DM-1 schedule is a complete mess/mystery at this point. First, last month, NASA set the launch date for January 7th with their invite to media to watch the launch. Next, NASA said that DM-1 won't be ready until spring or something because of problems with the parachutes and they only set the launch date to that so they could invite media. Now, SpaceX is saying that DM-1 is still on track for a mid-January launch and has no problems with the parachute. In retaliation, evidently, NASA now says that the first commercial crew spacecraft will launch when MS-12 is on the ISS, which is after Feb. 25. There are a bunch of other confusing points, such as the idea that DM-1 might occur after CRS-16 leaves the space station in "early January," and the whole confusion on whether the booster without grid fins at LC-39 is B1051, the DM-1 booster (which launches from that launchpad and has been confirmed to be "at the cape") or B1054, the GPS III-A booster (which launches sooner and needs no grid fins). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Moldy mouse food (no kidding). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, tater said: Moldy mouse food (no kidding). Well rats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 No point of sending an experiment up, if specimens would die due to starvation or food poisoning. Not to mention it would be animal cruelty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Scotius said: No point of sending an experiment up, if specimens would die due to starvation or food poisoning. Not to mention it would be animal cruelty. Well, the soviets used to send dogs up there with no method of rescue... I guess liquiding off animal lovers is not a good thing. But can't the rats tap into the ISS food reserve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Rats, to day was much better for my schedule! Or should I say "mice?" 43 minutes ago, Xd the great said: But can't the rats mice tap into the ISS food reserve? It's not like they're gonna just float freely around the station! They'll have a cage... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 They have to have a consistent diet, and I can only imagine there are control mice back on Earth who will be eating the same chow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatastrophicFailure Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Called it. Wish they’d release some video, it’d be nice for us plebs to see just how close (or not) they’re getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Hans was saying "mid-January" at the CRS-16 presser, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mikegarrison Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 On 12/3/2018 at 5:37 PM, ThatGuyWithALongUsername said: Alright... the entire DM-1 schedule is a complete mess/mystery at this point. First, last month, NASA set the launch date for January 7th with their invite to media to watch the launch. Next, NASA said that DM-1 won't be ready until spring or something because of problems with the parachutes and they only set the launch date to that so they could invite media. Now, SpaceX is saying that DM-1 is still on track for a mid-January launch and has no problems with the parachute. In retaliation, evidently, NASA now says that the first commercial crew spacecraft will launch when MS-12 is on the ISS, which is after Feb. 25. There are a bunch of other confusing points, such as the idea that DM-1 might occur after CRS-16 leaves the space station in "early January," and the whole confusion on whether the booster without grid fins at LC-39 is B1051, the DM-1 booster (which launches from that launchpad and has been confirmed to be "at the cape") or B1054, the GPS III-A booster (which launches sooner and needs no grid fins). Is the first mission planned to go to the ISS, or will it just be an orbit/recovery test? Will the first mission be manned or unmanned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, mikegarrison said: Is the first mission planned to go to the ISS, or will it just be an orbit/recovery test? Will the first mission be manned or unmanned? DM-1 is an uncrewed flight of Dragon 2 to the ISS. It will bring along some cargo (equal to nominal crew mass, with supplies that would go on a normal mission?) apparently as well. It stays a while at ISS, then comes home. There was some talk that SpaceX preferred CRS-16 (launching tomorrow) to leave ISS before DM-1, so that they need only track the one spacecraft on this first mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Edited December 5, 2018 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Random thought - I wonder how consistent the scorching will be on multiply-flown Falcon 9s? As in, will it be possible to eyeball the booster and get an estimate of how many times it's flown? And will the scorching ever become heavy enough to affect propellant loading? There's a reason that rockets don't tend to be painted black right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, KSK said: And will the scorching ever become heavy enough to affect propellant loading? There's a reason that rockets don't tend to be painted black right? No, the scorching wont be too heavy. Scorch (carbon deposits) are burnt off each time the rockets reenter. 2 minutes ago, KSK said: Random thought - I wonder how consistent the scorching will be on multiply-flown Falcon 9s? As in, will it be possible to eyeball the booster and get an estimate of how many times it's flown? Well, many scorching/totally black booster= flown multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuyWithALongUsername Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 32 minutes ago, Xd the great said: No, the scorching wont be too heavy. Scorch (carbon deposits) are burnt off each time the rockets reenter. I think the concern here is that the darker tanks will absorb more heat, messing up the fuel. I don't think it will be a problem, the losses are probably there but minimal. I mean... it's not paint, but we have an all-black launcher now, and it seems fine... although it does gain a cover of pure white frost when fuel is loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 For people who can't watch youtube, can you watch twitch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 28 minutes ago, tater said: For people who can't watch youtube, can you watch twitch? Unfortunately no, but since this is a CRS launch it should also be NASA streamed, and NASA TV is usually not blocked, so I should be able to watch it today. Thanks, though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 (edited) Music live, at T-19m. Instantaneous launch window. Edited December 5, 2018 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Ho, hum... Another day, another exciting rocket launch with amazing first stage recovery. or so we hope! Live now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 live NASA coverage with different angles: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Nice skies...should be good tracking shots. NASA is allowing re-used Dragons now? Nice. Are the mice on board? Or are they sending up food for mice that are already on the station? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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