Sivako Aerospace Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 (edited) FONSI has been confirmed. Review findings here: https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-06/20220613 SpaceX Starship Super Heavy at Boca Chica_FONSI_ROD Final.pdf Edited June 13, 2022 by Sivako Aerospace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Mitigated FONSI: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beccab Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 Yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 A skim read of the report doesn't reveal anything unreasonable in terms of mitigation measures IMO. SpaceX will be pretty happy with this I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pthigrivi Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, RCgothic said: A skim read of the report doesn't reveal anything unreasonable in terms of mitigation measures IMO. SpaceX will be pretty happy with this I think. Sea turtle heat shields confirmed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beccab Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 NASA statement on the FONSI and R2 throttling tests at McGregor. Also, summary someone else made of the mitigations: Air quality: - Periodic water spraying to control particulates and fugitive dust - Minimal idling of engines - water soil that is to distributed - low volatility coatings - compliance with Texas Commission on Environmental Quality (TCEQ) Noise: - Announce upcoming launch and landing operations - Overall impact of sonic booms not significant, however notices help reduce adverse human reactions and are therefore needed - responsible for any structural damage caused by sonic booms - SpaceX is required to carry insurance in the amount of the "Maximum Probable Loss" (Determined on a launch by launch basis) up to $500,000,000 per launch Visual effects: - minimize lighting to what is needed for save operations (including measures like shielding and directional lighting) - avoid visibility from the beach - extra careful during sea turtle nesting season (including worker briefings on the topic) - monitor launch site lighting by qualified biologists Cultural resources: - Multiple measures to describe the history and significance of historic properties and cultural heritage - minimize noise from traffic - need to restore historic property should it get damaged or destroyed Department of Transportation Act, Section 4(f) - Set of rules/mitigation for clean-up of SN11 (and future incidents) - TLDR; retrieve all debris, restore land/nature - Multi-step restoration plan with Texas Parks and Wildlife Department solely at he expense of SpaceX - test restoration followed by actual restoration if found successful - Notify ahead of planned access restrictions (1-2 weeks in advance, 48h as plans finalize) - Road closures - Not possible on... … most public holidays … on weekends if the Friday or Monday is one of them - Only five weekend closures per year (with every scheduled one counting if not cancelled more than 24h in advance) - Collaborate with USFWS (U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service) on multiple topics including environmental education objectives and wildlife observation Multiple measures to prevent the introduction of non-native species as well as preventing the discharge of industrial waste water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Busy weekend coming up. Starlink launch Friday morning 10:50 am EDT from 39A. SARah 1 launch Saturday morning 10:00 am EDT from Vandenberg. Globalstar FM15 launch Sunday morning 12:30 am EDT from SLC-40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Regarding Boca Chica, this FONSI notice means that they can do dev work there while they ramp up for FL, I think since they only get 5 orbital, and 5 suborbital launches per year. Unless they go all-in for the oil rig platforms, they will need to start making vehicles in FL after a couple years—basically as soon as they get to the point that testing refilling is a thing. 5 orbital launches will get them through initial testing, including EDL, tower catch, etc. Suborbital testing is not a thing, so maybe they can use that to ferry vehicles to platforms—suborbital hops to FL will not be a thing ever, I think, the hazard areas look pretty ugly to me for that (flying a suborbital experimental rocket over Tampa, lol). Maybe in the background they now find out what hoops to jump through to get a higher cadence out of TX—a full EIS workup at the very least for the desired cadence. Such work usually takes a couple years I think, so I would expect they would start that immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, tater said: Suborbital testing is not a thing There is one case that hasn't been used yet (hypersonic suborbital tests), but we'll only see those if there's too many issues with the heat shield and they run out of launches imo. I think there's something in the EA about standalone superheavy tests as well, but I doubt we'll see that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Beccab said: There is one case that hasn't been used yet (hypersonic suborbital tests), but we'll only see those if there's too many issues with the heat shield and they run out of launches imo. I think there's something in the EA about standalone superheavy tests as well, but I doubt we'll see that Seems unlikely honestly—though hops to platforms might well be a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) 1 SS/SH a month after July... So theoretically if they are allowed 5 launches per calendar year they can front load as many as possible before 2023. Edited June 14, 2022 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 (edited) Is that in aspirational time again? I think Murphy and his grim of gremlins will be having a word with him… Edited June 14, 2022 by StrandedonEarth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, StrandedonEarth said: Is that in aspirational time again? I think Murphy and his grim of gremlins will be having a word with him… 100%. I'd say August-ish is reasonable for launch or at least a full stack, provided the static fire campaign goes decently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Next month gives them 1.5 months to test, then stack, etc. Not impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuky Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 21 hours ago, tater said: See Boeing, when competent and/or not living of a tax payers wallet valve problems don't take 2 years to find and repair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCgothic Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I think it'll probably take them longer than the end of August to work up a full 33 engine static fire and wet dress rehearsal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beccab Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 B7 will likely rollout tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, tater said: That’s a bad number, they should skip it and go directly to the 14th mission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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