Skylon Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Next up: Falcon 9 Mk6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1101 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 51 minutes ago, Skylon said: Next up: Falcon 9 Mk6 Why not - it's a naming scheme like that of the Spitfire, or B-17 (or where those A,B,C,D etc?). Both of those were fine aircraft... Really, SpaceX should extend the droneship name system to the rockets, or at least the Dragons. I'd love to see a news article along the lines of "Experiencing A Significant Gravitas Shortfall docks with ISS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 59 minutes ago, Skylon said: Next up: Falcon 9 Mk6 Naw, Millennium Edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elthy Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Also dont forget: Falcon 9 (2018) and The new Falcon 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 19 hours ago, Mitchz95 said: That wasn't a reused rocket, though, was it? Just the Dragon. Technically the Dragon has bipropellant rocket engines and they were reused as well, so...officially a rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Also, the core was landed for future reuse. It feels normal that you drive the new car home from the dealership and don't immediately have it towed away as junk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 25 minutes ago, tater said: Also, the core was landed for future reuse. It feels normal that you drive the new car home from the dealership and don't immediately have it towed away as junk You didn't see my last car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 6 hours ago, KSK said: You didn't see my last car. OK serious question time: This, IIRC, the second time they've shipped mice up on a Dragon. So... how much "life support" capacity does the current Dragon have? Obviously it's enough to keep mice alive up & down for a few days. If a person managed to sneak aboard, would they survive the trip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 12 hours ago, Skylon said: Falcon 1 Falcon 1e Flacon 5 Falcon 9 Falcon 9 V1.1 Falcon 9 Full Thrust Falcon 9 Block 5 (why 5?) Whats up with that SpaceX? Blocks is common on military planes to indicate version. Guess they did not come up with some good names and fought that block was an better standard than version number. The new stuff is mostly that they can service the engines without taking off the legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 19 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Blocks is common on military planes to indicate version. Guess they did not come up with some good names and fought that block was an better standard than version number. The new stuff is mostly that they can service the engines without taking off the legs. Also tougher legs and tougher titanium grid fins that won't burn during reentry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylon Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 Well, their engine naming system is regular... Kestrel- a bird of prey Merlin-1A- Merlin is another bird of prey Merlin-1B Merlin-1C Merlin-1D Raptor.....is another word for a bird of prey Then Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 A Merlin is a bird of prey? i thought it was a mystical bearded old guy who handed out special swords and lives backwards thru time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylon Posted June 6, 2017 Author Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: A Merlin is a bird of prey? i thought it was a mystical bearded old guy who handed out special swords and lives backwards thru time? That too, but also this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Merlin was also the name of the Rolls Royce engine that practically won WWII, as it was used in the Spitfire, the Hurricane, the Lancaster, the Mosquito, and the P-51 Mustang, which were probably the best allied planes in WWII. It was even used in tanks. Incidentally, Rolls Royce also named their engines after birds of prey. They had a Kestrel engine, but also Eagle, Hawk, Vulture, Peregrine, Buzzard, and so on. There wasn't a Raptor, but there was Rolls Royce R, which was a huge engine used in seaplane races in the 1930's. I'm pretty sure that SpaceX's engine naming is a hommage to these legendary engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukaszenko Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) I didn't see anybody say anything about this, but it seemed really clear in this launch: Edited June 6, 2017 by Lukaszenko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Lukaszenko said: I didn't see anybody say anything about this, but it seemed really clear in this launch: Very nice catch. 10 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: OK serious question time: This, IIRC, the second time they've shipped mice up on a Dragon. So... how much "life support" capacity does the current Dragon have? Obviously it's enough to keep mice alive up & down for a few days. If a person managed to sneak aboard, would they survive the trip? I was actually going to ask this question myself. In a really, really ridiculously bad situation -- like, meteoroid impact that takes out the Soyuz lifeboat and the life support systems and gives the astronauts only a matter of hours -- would a docked Dragon 1 be enough to get the crew home safely? They'd need to bring their own air and such, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojourner Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 49 minutes ago, sevenperforce said: Very nice catch. I was actually going to ask this question myself. In a really, really ridiculously bad situation -- like, meteoroid impact that takes out the Soyuz lifeboat and the life support systems and gives the astronauts only a matter of hours -- would a docked Dragon 1 be enough to get the crew home safely? They'd need to bring their own air and such, obviously. Dragon 1 berths, not docked. Someone would have to remain onboard the ISS to unberth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5 minutes ago, sojourner said: Dragon 1 berths, not docked. Someone would have to remain onboard the ISS to unberth it. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that they figured out a way to remotely trigger the unberthing mechanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Just now, sevenperforce said: Let's say, for the sake of argument, that they figured out a way to remotely trigger the unberthing mechanism. it has an system for circulating air and temperature control, I doubt it have the actual life support as in scrubbing co2 and supplying oxygen, removing co2 is most important here. 11 m^3 of air maximum, less if room is taken up. looks like you could do an emergency deorbit before running out of air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, sojourner said: Dragon 1 berths, not docked. Someone would have to remain onboard the ISS to unberth it. Can't they do that remotely now? I could have sworn they have before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbinorbiter Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 well commercial products for commercial space flight makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEpicSquared Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Can't they do that remotely now? I could have sworn they have before. Well they should be able to de-berth remotely. Edited June 6, 2017 by TheEpicSquared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, TheEpicSquared said: Well they should be able to de-berth remotely. Maybe they should keep Sandra Bullock on board for just such emergencies. Then she can just jet on over to the Chinese space station and surf it all the way back down in her skivvies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nibb31 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, sevenperforce said: Very nice catch. I was actually going to ask this question myself. In a really, really ridiculously bad situation -- like, meteoroid impact that takes out the Soyuz lifeboat and the life support systems and gives the astronauts only a matter of hours -- would a docked Dragon 1 be enough to get the crew home safely? They'd need to bring their own air and such, obviously. No. Beyond the fact that it can't unberth (you need someone inside to close the CBM and use the Canadarm), there certainly isn't enough CO2 scrubbing inside to hold 6 people for several hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 33 minutes ago, Nibb31 said: No. Beyond the fact that it can't unberth (you need someone inside to close the CBM and use the Canadarm), there certainly isn't enough CO2 scrubbing inside to hold 6 people for several hours. And if they brought their own air, and figured out a way to remotely unberth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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