Ultimate Steve Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) Ninja. EDIT: Another one! Edited July 27, 2018 by Ultimate Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Welcome to the 21st century, where a bunch of nerds sit around marveling at a rocket lifting its leg... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Welcome to the 21st century, where a bunch of nerds sit around marveling at a rocket lifting its leg... Just wait until they grow arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 This booster will be reused, yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, cubinator said: This booster will be reused, yes? Every booster for the foreseeable future will should be reused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Every booster for the foreseeable future will should be reused. Good. Can't wait for the first third flight of a booster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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magnemoe Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 44 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Welcome to the 21st century, where a bunch of nerds sit around marveling at a rocket lifting its leg... Yes, lifting legs is standard in KSP, its the rocket tipping over afterward who is something to watch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Quote According to observations of SpaceX booster movements at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station on July 24, it appears that the company will reuse a Falcon 9 Block 5 booster for the first time ever on August 4, just over a week from today. ... More important than the schedule, perhaps, is the fact that it would appear that SpaceX intends to reuse the first Block 5 booster (B1046) for this particular launch. This is the Bangabandhu-1 booster, flown May 11th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Matches with the new cap and you can see some sort of hook on the tip of the leg, raise until locks Remember that legs are extended with RP1 as hydraulic. You have to tap this into an tank, either from piston or from an central tap valve as you will also tap leftover fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 So the first B5 reflight will be 85 days after launch, we need to watch the timers on the next ones, and see how that time decreases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, magnemoe said: Matches with the new cap and you can see some sort of hook on the tip of the leg, raise until locks Remember that legs are extended with RP1 as hydraulic. You have to tap this into an tank, either from piston or from an central tap valve as you will also tap leftover fuel. RP1 is used as the hydraulic for the grid fins; helium is used for extending the legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, tater said: So the first B5 reflight will be 85 days after launch, we need to watch the timers on the next ones, and see how that time decreases. To be honest, reflying after 3 months i very good. They are the first guys to reuse a orbital class booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Xd the great said: To be honest, reflying after 3 months i very good. They are the first guys to reuse a orbital class booster. *Technically* the shuttle boosters did this first, although SpaceX's method is about 50x better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Ultimate Steve said: *Technically* the shuttle boosters did this first, although SpaceX's method is about 50x better. IIRC 58 54 days is the number to beat, the best turnaround from the early Shuttle days. I expect it to be beaten very soon. Edited July 28, 2018 by CatastrophicFailure @&@&#^*#€¥!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: IIRC 58 54 days is the number to beat, the best turnaround from the early Shuttle days. I expect it to be beaten very soon. Yeah, the so called rurnaround involves raking apart the booster and refilling it with srb fuels. Basically, it is more expensive to reuse the srb than to build a new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubinator Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 24 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: IIRC 58 54 days is the number to beat, the best turnaround from the early Shuttle days. I expect it to be beaten very soon. I expect it'll be 14 days within two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, cubinator said: I expect it'll be 14 days within two years. I think they will have to invent a ultrasound scanner big enough to scan the entire rocket for cracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVaughan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Well Elon said block 5 was designed for 24 hr turnaround (presumably based on a RTLS timeline). He also said the first booster would be pulled apart for a thorough inspection to validate the design, so hopefully there will be a faster turnaround for future boosters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Rocket Scientist Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Block 5 cannot be used as a FH center core, only sides: And 3rd ASDS (Shortfall of Gravitas) is coming next summer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Does that mean SpaceX have enough saved Block 4 boosters for all predicted FH launches? Or are they so optimistic about BFR being available with no delays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaff Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) I really hate how nonchalantly they dissmiss the FH. Its like the ugly big brother. They love the F9, they wax lyrical about the BFR yet because FH was “hard” and “pointless because BFR” they just seem to not care about it. Its an incredible feat of engineering - not to mention utterly glorious to watch launch and land Edited July 28, 2018 by Jaff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, Scotius said: Does that mean SpaceX have enough saved Block 4 boosters for all predicted FH launches? Or are they so optimistic about BFR being available with no delays? They have to redesign the entire booster, so it will be cheaper to build a new one. The octaweb, fuselage, all have to be specified for the centre core. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jaff said: I really hate how nonchalantly they dissmiss the FH. Its like the ugly big brother. They love the F9, they wax lyrical about the BFR yet because FH was “hard” and “pointless because BFR” they just seem to not care about it. Its an incredible feat of engineering - not to mention utterly glorious to watch launch and land I think it’s more like ‘FH is pointless because of hugely upgraded F9’. When your workhorse booster is putting the heaviest satellite ever into GTO and being recovered, I can see why you might be waxing lyrical about it. I take your point - and I’m very much looking forward to the next FH launch myself - but I’m also happy getting my ‘incredible feat of engineering’ fix from watching progress on Block 5 reusability and BFR development! Edited July 28, 2018 by KSK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tullius Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scotius said: Does that mean SpaceX have enough saved Block 4 boosters for all predicted FH launches? Or are they so optimistic about BFR being available with no delays? Or they just built a Block 5B booster as the Block 5 variant for the FH core. Edited July 28, 2018 by Tullius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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