D.eimos Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Out of curiosity, is there anyway to fully disable the loading screens AVP adds? I found the option to allow the stock ones but for some reason AVP makes the user loading screens go away really fast so I'd like to fully disable it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HebaruSan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 29 minutes ago, D.eimos said: Out of curiosity, is there anyway to fully disable the loading screens AVP adds? I found the option to allow the stock ones but for some reason AVP makes the user loading screens go away really fast so I'd like to fully disable it Looks like you could try deleting the AVP_LoadingScreens folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 https://imgur.com/a/LTgH3YV I'm having problems with Jool. Jool's clouds are much darker than they're supposed to be. When running AVP in a previous version of KSP, there wasn't any issues. Could be other mods on my install list, but it's likely that other people have had this problem before. So, if there's the possibility that another mod is causing this, please let me know and I'll get you screenshots of my mod list. AVP and all other mods were installed using CKAN, so please don't tell me something about "installing it incorrectly". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 hours ago, intelliCom said: https://imgur.com/a/LTgH3YV I'm having problems with Jool. Jool's clouds are much darker than they're supposed to be. When running AVP in a previous version of KSP, there wasn't any issues. Could be other mods on my install list, but it's likely that other people have had this problem before. So, if there's the possibility that another mod is causing this, please let me know and I'll get you screenshots of my mod list. AVP and all other mods were installed using CKAN, so please don't tell me something about "installing it incorrectly". oh i got the same thing, idk if its supposed to be darkerhttps://imgur.com/a/YqMt5Ez i installed it manually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Just now, Protost4r said: oh i got the same thing, idk if its supposed to be darkerhttps://imgur.com/a/YqMt5Ez i installed it manually That starfield's a bit different than mine. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, intelliCom said: That starfield's a bit different than mine. Why? do you mean the skybox? i decided to use beyond home skybox because it looks cool and after a few days, decided to change back to avp skybox also the screenshot is like 2-3 weeks ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 35 minutes ago, Protost4r said: do you mean the skybox? i decided to use beyond home skybox because it looks cool and after a few days, decided to change back to avp skybox also the screenshot is like 2-3 weeks ago Gotcha. Anyways, back the topic at hand: Is Jool still like this for you? Was there a time where you ever saw it how it's normally supposed to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, intelliCom said: Gotcha. Anyways, back the topic at hand: Is Jool still like this for you? Was there a time where you ever saw it how it's normally supposed to be? try reverting scatterer to 0.07, it fixes the issue edit : https://imgur.com/a/hYImUru i tested it with scatterer 0.07 Edited January 25, 2022 by Protost4r need to add a picture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, Protost4r said: try reverting scatterer to 0.07, it fixes the issue edit : https://imgur.com/a/hYImUru i tested it with scatterer 0.07 I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen? Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now. https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX Edited January 26, 2022 by intelliCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, intelliCom said: I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen? Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now. https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX Update: Even after reinstalling my visual mods, Jool has remained glitched: https://imgur.com/a/4ekHCH0 Edited January 26, 2022 by intelliCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 7 hours ago, intelliCom said: I want to understand the influence scatterer has on Jool's textures to make them that way. What the hell changed between 0.07 and 0.08 to make this happen? Edit: Changing to 0.0772 didn't fix it. Some things look much worse now. https://imgur.com/a/JbfOyGX oh my, kerbin atmosphere is gone wait have you installed the scatterer "default config" version 0.0772? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 23 minutes ago, Protost4r said: oh my, kerbin atmosphere is gone wait have you installed the scatterer "default config" version 0.0772? Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, intelliCom said: Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks! Interesting new problem: Shadow circles all over Jool. Only shows up in flight view. https://imgur.com/a/vcQuRDa Edited January 26, 2022 by intelliCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 2 hours ago, intelliCom said: Interesting new problem: Shadow circles all over Jool. Only shows up in flight view. https://imgur.com/a/vcQuRDa hmm going into jool atmosphere is a little bit weird, i tried it before and it makes the clouds texture buggy (just when you entered jool clouds, if you go out its perfectly fine again) 2 hours ago, intelliCom said: Did the same thing again with the config set to the same version. Works perfectly now. Thanks! i dont know why but scatterer 0.08 seems to messed up mods, i tried scatterer 0.08 with opm mod+avp, neidon is green lol (should be dark blue) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 33 minutes ago, Protost4r said: neidon is green lol (should be dark blue) Neidon is purple??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, intelliCom said: Neidon is purple??? oops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, Protost4r said: oops Wait, can I see a screenshot of your version of Neidon, or was it just that whole "Is indigo a shade of blue or shade of purple" debate again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, intelliCom said: Wait, can I see a screenshot of your version of Neidon, or was it just that whole "Is indigo a shade of blue or shade of purple" debate again? go to page 69, find the dude getting green neidon, you can see with scatterer 0.08, it makes neidon green and with scatterer 0.07 its perfectly fine https://imgur.com/a/noUBW1r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Protost4r said: go to page 69, find the dude getting green neidon, you can see with scatterer 0.08, it makes neidon green and with scatterer 0.07 its perfectly fine https://imgur.com/a/noUBW1r Very strange. Your Neidon looks very similar to AVP's Jool. Here is a screenshot from my map view: https://imgur.com/a/6WlsCJh Edited January 26, 2022 by intelliCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, intelliCom said: Very strange. Your Neidon looks very similar to AVP's Jool. Here is a screenshot from my map view: https://imgur.com/a/6WlsCJh wait forgot to mention, i use avp for opm so neidon looks close to avp jool edit : i think gas giants with avp uses this texture https://imgur.com/a/Og6Vyr7 sarnus and urlum uses that texture too if you are using avp for opm Edited January 26, 2022 by Protost4r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, Protost4r said: wait forgot to mention, i use avp for opm so neidon looks close to avp jool edit : i think gas giants with avp uses this texture https://imgur.com/a/Og6Vyr7 sarnus and urlum uses that texture too if you are using avp for opm I'm also using AVP, scatterer, EVE, etc, but it looks different. Sarnus and Urlum definitely look similar to Jool, but Neidon is very clearly purple. Perhaps it might look different if I went there with a ship instead of looking at it through the map? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protost4r Posted January 26, 2022 Share Posted January 26, 2022 Just now, intelliCom said: I'm also using AVP, scatterer, EVE, etc, but it looks different. Sarnus and Urlum definitely look similar to Jool, but Neidon is very clearly purple. Perhaps it might look different if I went there with a ship instead of looking at it through the map? hmm ok fixed, i use scatterer 0.07 now and its purple fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neebel Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) On 1/26/2022 at 10:51 AM, Protost4r said: hmm ok fixed, i use scatterer 0.07 now and its purple fine Let me just clear this up, AVP does NOT work with the 0.08 version(s) of scatterer correctly yet. OP promised an update back in November but has been quiet since, so I'd recommend using scatterer version 0.0772 for now. Same for basically every other visual pack btw: Edited January 29, 2022 by Neebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intelliCom Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) On 1/29/2022 at 8:21 PM, Neebel said: Let me just clear this up, AVP does NOT work with the 0.08 version(s) of scatterer correctly yet. OP promised an update back in November but has been quiet since, so I'd recommend using scatterer version 0.0772 for now. Same for basically every other visual pack btw: CKAN lists version 0.0830 of scatterer as latest, and decides to put it alongside the latest AVP and EVE. Doesn't CKAN detect conflicts between mods that don't work with each other? Also, what specifically causes the celestial bodies to look like this when using scatterer 0.08xx? Does it have something to do with how scatterer treats the values being given to it by AVP or something along those lines?https://imgur.com/a/uEaqGnQ Edit: Clarifying questions. Edited January 31, 2022 by intelliCom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neebel Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, intelliCom said: CKAN lists version 0.0830 of scatterer as latest, and decides to put it alongside the latest AVP and EVE. Doesn't CKAN detect conflicts between mods that don't work with each other? Also, what specifically causes the celestial bodies to look like this when using scatterer 0.08xx? Does it have something to do with how scatterer treats the values being given to it by AVP or something along those lines?https://imgur.com/a/uEaqGnQ Edit: Clarifying questions. So first, this issue is not CKAN's problem because they technically still work together, just not as they should, and sorting out these kinds of issues is not duty of the CKAN devs. Which brings me to your second question: AVP and most other visual packs basically just use outdated configs which were made out-of-date by the new scatterer versions. That's why the atmospheres look all weird. This just happens whenever major changes are done to a mod that is a dependency of many other mods. The only way to currently use the newest scatterer versions is by just downloading scatterer, EVE and whatever else you want with their respective default configs and not get any packs like AVP or Spectra. Still won't work with OPM though because their plantes will still look weird from their outdated configs. Edited January 31, 2022 by Neebel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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