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[UNOFFICIAL/FANMADE] 0.17 Discussion Thread 2


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You're right, there aren't. But I was talking about level flight, where nothing goes up.

If the plane is flying straight and level at below orbital speed, it is going up, even if it's altitude is stable.

You should think about level flight below orbital speed as acceleration upwards.

If you fighting gravity to stay level, then you are accelerating upwards. The force you feel on your bum when you sit on a chair at 1G is the force of you accelerating towards the ceiling.

If you jump out of a balloon and fall weightless to the ground, then you are not accelerating, even if your falling speed might be increasing.

Such is the strange world of General relativity.

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If you jump out of a balloon and fall weightless to the ground, then you are not accelerating, even if your falling speed might be increasing.

Such is the strange world of General relativity.

That's not true. You will accelerate downwards until you reach terminal velocity, which is when the force of the air pushing against you equals the force of gravity pulling you down. A change in velocity is the definition of acceleration.

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That's not true. You will accelerate downwards until you reach terminal velocity, which is when the force of the air pushing against you equals the force of gravity pulling you down. A change in velocity is the definition of acceleration.

No, the ground is accelerating towards him, lol.

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Seriously, if you want to argue about lift and all that, make another thread.

It's getting ridiculous to try and read this thread which is SUPPOSED to be about the .17 release, when it's filled with a bunch of arguing over lift/etc.

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does anyone know when this will be released, or will it just be released as soon as its ready ?

Just so you know, it's considered bad form on these forums (and well, pretty much any game forum) to pester the devs about when the next version will be released. Always assume "it'll be ready when it's ready" until an announcement is made :)

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You will know when it's ready. Untill then we don't know because the debs aren't allowed to tell us anymore hinestly they don't have a deadline anymore and that improves the quality of thier work because they don't have to rush things.

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Has anyone made any landers that work on water? I got something working, just need to build a bigger version to allow me to achieve orbit.

No I don't have a water lander.

However, now that you mention it, it reminded me about posting about a landing on the Ocean Moon. I wonder if there will be parts added, like flotation devices, to land something big on that. In order to ascend back to orbit.

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I'm going to give a suggestion I know won't get picked, but it tickled my fancy and kind of fits if you know where I'm coming from: Coyote.

I'm really looking forward to the new destinations and to trying out the new tutorials!

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Just a quick wonder about naming the planets. It doesn't make any logical sense that they name an desert like planet with something that has to do with deserts (something that contains the word des etc.) and planets close to the sun something hot'ish (charr etc.). Because the first time someone sees a planet they're probably still in the stone-age and think they're some gods wandering the skies and name them after them and the name still sticks until modern age. It's not until you've got the technology that you start to see what they're made of (aka deserts, close to the sun etc.). Even tho Charr sounds like an awesome god name.

Unless the Kerbalkind skipped the stone age and went directly to the rocket age, which wouldn't surprise me. Could also be that the planets doesn't reflect any light, or very little, so it was impossible to find them without the technology.

Just been thinking a little bit about this.

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Just a quick wonder about naming the planets. It doesn't make any logical sense that they name an desert like planet with something that has to do with deserts (something that contains the word des etc.) and planets close to the sun something hot'ish (charr etc.). Because the first time someone sees a planet they're probably still in the stone-age and think they're some gods wandering the skies and name them after them and the name still sticks until modern age. It's not until you've got the technology that you start to see what they're made of (aka deserts, close to the sun etc.). Even tho Charr sounds like an awesome god name.

Unless the Kerbalkind skipped the stone age and went directly to the rocket age, which wouldn't surprise me. Could also be that the planets doesn't reflect any light, or very little, so it was impossible to find them without the technology.

Just been thinking a little bit about this.

What about Neptune (Pluto? It was discovered in 1930. Neptune, 1846.

Back on topic, I am still wondering if .17 will break persistence files and craft files. Hm. I know it's to be expected, but I'm hoping that it doesn't happen this way.

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Just a quick wonder about naming the planets. It doesn't make any logical sense that they name an desert like planet with something that has to do with deserts (something that contains the word des etc.) and planets close to the sun something hot'ish (charr etc.). Because the first time someone sees a planet they're probably still in the stone-age and think they're some gods wandering the skies and name them after them and the name still sticks until modern age. It's not until you've got the technology that you start to see what they're made of (aka deserts, close to the sun etc.). Even tho Charr sounds like an awesome god name.

Unless the Kerbalkind skipped the stone age and went directly to the rocket age, which wouldn't surprise me. Could also be that the planets doesn't reflect any light, or very little, so it was impossible to find them without the technology.

Just been thinking a little bit about this.

To me it seems the kerbals are characterised as lovable idiots, and it'd make sense they'd choose very simple names for planets. You can tell "minmus" means small. The name "mun" makes me laugh every time I see it, because it's "moon" spelled like a child would. "Murs" and "Charr" or similar work really well in the same vein.

What about Neptune (Pluto? It was discovered in 1930. Neptune, 1846.

Well, they were named in the series of greek/roman gods just so they'd match with the other planets. The moons of uranus are named after english literary characters (go figure), and since it's a bit unfair that all the good ones have already been named after western myths, many modern objects are named after minor mythologies (hawaiian, indian) or famous people.

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