Giancarlo Kerman Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Starseeker said: You need the WaterfallRestock config installed to give ReStock engines Waterfall effetcs; since most stock engines (aside from jet engines) are replaced by ReStock, the ReStock config should be all you need on the stock/restock side of things. It could be that having both is somehow creating some kind of error; try removing the configs for stock engines and see if that changes things. strangely enough, it didnt change a thing.... the engine just lights up, no exhaust effect Just now, Giancarlo Kerman said: strangely enough, it didnt change a thing.... the engine just lights up, no exhaust effect Should I manually input the CFG files directly into the engine files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman.Spiff Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Giancarlo Kerman said: Should I manually input the CFG files directly into the engine files? No. Try reinstalling both WFRestock and Waterfall core. Make sure you have the latest versions. Also make sure to delete the folders, not just overwrite them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giancarlo Kerman Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Spaceman.Spiff said: No. Try reinstalling both WFRestock and Waterfall core. Make sure you have the latest versions. Also make sure to delete the folders, not just overwrite them. alright Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giancarlo Kerman Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 46 minutes ago, Giancarlo Kerman said: alright PRAISE THE KRAKEN! IT FINALLY WORKS!!! I can't thank you enough for your time and help! Now I can enjoy this to its fullest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman.Spiff Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Giancarlo Kerman said: can't thank you enough for your time and help! Now I can enjoy this to its fullest! No problem I'm just glad that another Kerb gets to enjoy this wonderful mod It's now required that you share your screenshots with us. Edited May 13, 2021 by Spaceman.Spiff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giancarlo Kerman Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Spaceman.Spiff said: No problem I'm just glad that another Kerb gets to enjoy this wonderful mod It's now required that you share your screenshots with us. Sure, just gimme a moment https://imgur.com/a/UaeGg2t here you go! Edited May 13, 2021 by Giancarlo Kerman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorSabe Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Giancarlo Kerman said: Sure, just gimme a moment https://imgur.com/a/UaeGg2t here you go! Just fyi, when you use insert image from url, if you want the image to show in your post you need to add the file extension (.png, .jpg, etc) to the end of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR L A Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) And after last nights comment, I’ve installed the mod. super impressed! Less performance hit compared to real plume which is good news for my pants gpu and looks spectacular! thanks for creating such a nice mod! edit: omg the jet engine heat distortion for stock configs looks incredible! Edited May 13, 2021 by MR L A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giancarlo Kerman Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 17 hours ago, WarriorSabe said: Just fyi, when you use insert image from url, if you want the image to show in your post you need to add the file extension (.png, .jpg, etc) to the end of it thanks for the tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherOfGold Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Waterfall Restock doesn't have configs for any of the DLC engines. Is that going to be added? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon cup Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, FatherOfGold said: Waterfall Restock doesn't have configs for any of the DLC engines. Is that going to be added? The only two it does not have configs for are the Bobcat and Cheetah, which Restock does not touch. If you want configs for those two you can grab them from StockWaterfallEffects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FatherOfGold Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, lemon cup said: The only two it does not have configs for are the Bobcat and Cheetah, which Restock does not touch. If you want configs for those two you can grab them from StockWaterfallEffects. How do I add them? The Stock Waterfall Configs are arranged differently (in the folders) than restock waterfall. Do I just copy over the .cfg files for those engines from Stock to the restock folder with all the cfgs in it or is there something else I have to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon cup Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 (edited) On 5/16/2021 at 1:57 PM, FatherOfGold said: How do I add them? The Stock Waterfall Configs are arranged differently (in the folders) than restock waterfall. Do I just copy over the .cfg files for those engines from Stock to the restock folder with all the cfgs in it or is there something else I have to do? You could do that, but I believe they rely on templates that come with StockWaterfallEffects, so you would have to find which ones you need and copy those over too. What I would do is just install it normally like any other mod. HOWEVER, if you’ve also got Restock installed, none of the engine effects will show up in game because all of the StockWaterfallEffect .cfgs contain a written command line that tell them not to function if Restock is present. Go to the .cfg for the Bobcat and Cheetah, and remove the following phrase from the top line: “NEEDS:[!Restock]. You can also do the same for the 5 aircraft engines (Juno, Weasley, Whiplash, Panther, and Rapier) if you want, since Restock doesn’t touch those either. EDIT: Just wanted to point out that this information is outdated as of August 2, 2021. The latest release of StockWaterfallEffects has changed the plumes to no longer conflict when Restock is present. Edited August 2, 2021 by lemon cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starseeker Posted May 16, 2021 Share Posted May 16, 2021 Found some weird behavior with the Waterfall Restock config for the O-10 "Puff" engine: a duplicate of some part of the plume, shrunk and displaced a fair bit. It also persists even when opening the Waterfall editor and disabling drawing of every listed effect. Images: Spoiler Here's my player.log:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-Vk0R2jqMXOjOD6S65ctFJvrpy3eiWfv/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al2Me6 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Starseeker said: Found some weird behavior with the Waterfall Restock config for the O-10 "Puff" engine: a duplicate of some part of the plume, shrunk and displaced a fair bit. It also persists even when opening the Waterfall editor and disabling drawing of every listed effect. If you look at the templates field in the UI you'll see a "1" and a "2"... this is happening because the Puff somehow has a second template: https://github.com/post-kerbin-mining-corporation/WaterfallRestock/blob/995235d212d154459e56175eccfa6b31826bfc86/GameData/WaterfallRestock/Patches/Squad/omsEngine.cfg#L89-L98. I'm guessing that shouldn't be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starseeker Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 45 minutes ago, Al2Me6 said: If you look at the templates field in the UI you'll see a "1" and a "2"... this is happening because the Puff somehow has a second template: https://github.com/post-kerbin-mining-corporation/WaterfallRestock/blob/995235d212d154459e56175eccfa6b31826bfc86/GameData/WaterfallRestock/Patches/Squad/omsEngine.cfg#L89-L98. I'm guessing that shouldn't be there. Ah, yeah, that'd do it! Doing some in-game testing, the "waterfall-kerolox-vernier-2" template seems to be the superfluous one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 The second template is often used for the glow inside the nozzle or the turbo-pump flame. You've got a position offset problem there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al2Me6 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Probus said: The second template is often used for the glow inside the nozzle or the turbo-pump flame. You've got a position offset problem there. The kerolox vernier template most certainly isn't used for nozzle glow (you're thinking of waterfall-nozzle-glow-yellow-1, probably). The Puff also doesn't have a vernier. Edited May 17, 2021 by Al2Me6 Word choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Natokerbal Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 Ive noticed that the editor isn't showing up in my toolbar. Is it a seperate download? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probus Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Al2Me6 said: The second template most certainly isn't used for nozzle glow (you're thinking of waterfall-nozzle-glow-yellow-1, probably). The Puff also doesn't have a vernier. Sorry, your are right. I wasn't very clear. I was talking more generally about extra templates and when I said nozzle glow I should have said something more like the fiery glow or flames inside the nozzle. As you know, many of the older nozzles don't glow at all so I've noticed a second template can be used to give the inside of the nozzle that bright effect instead of it just being black. EDIT: Beautiful work on the RO Waterfall Configs!! Edited May 17, 2021 by Probus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al2Me6 Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 33 minutes ago, Natokerbal said: Ive noticed that the editor isn't showing up in my toolbar. Is it a seperate download? https://github.com/post-kerbin-mining-corporation/Waterfall/wiki/Ingame-Editor-Introduction#activating-the-editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horace Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 i hope there are plumes for jet engines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuessingEveryDay Posted May 17, 2021 Share Posted May 17, 2021 4 hours ago, horace said: i hope there are plumes for jet engines There are. You have to download a mod called "Stock Waterfall Patches" And in the configs for the engines, you have to remove "&!Restock" from the Juno, Wheesly, Panther, Whiplash, Golitah, and R.A.P.I.E.R. You can also add plumes to the Cheetah and Bobcat using the same method. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horace Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 18 hours ago, GuessingEveryDay said: There are. You have to download a mod called "Stock Waterfall Patches" And in the configs for the engines, you have to remove "&!Restock" from the Juno, Wheesly, Panther, Whiplash, Golitah, and R.A.P.I.E.R. You can also add plumes to the Cheetah and Bobcat using the same method. but i have restock installed, iirc stock waterfall will not work with restock waterfall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starseeker Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, horace said: but i have restock installed, iirc stock waterfall will not work with restock waterfall All the Module-Manager patches that Stock Waterfall Effects uses have a bit in them that prevents them from being applied if Restock is installed, which is the "&!Restock" part in the first line of the config file. Remove that bit, and it'll work; this would cause all sorts of issues with Restock-touched engines, but none of the stock jet engines are affected by Restock , nor the Cheetah or Bobcat (and the RAPIER only minimally), so removing that bit from the patches for just those engines should work fine. Note: the Cheetah and Bobcat might be remade in a future Restock release, so that's something to watch out for w/r/t these patch edits. The jet engines, however, have (along with all other C7 Aerospace assets) been intentionally excluded from Restock, and will remain so for the forseeable future, so the patch edits for those engines should work through all future releases of Restock. Edited May 18, 2021 by Starseeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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