BeefTenderloin Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 My patched conics refuse to work. I've been trying to get into a Duna intercept, but my patched conics refuse to show me the intercept!First attempt, I didn't propel myself enough, and fell in front of the body. Ok, so the second time - I'll burn for longer! This time, I landed BEHIND Duna!At no point in the second burn did it show a capture.I'm not sure if I should abort the mission and bring the obviously malfunctioning lander back to Kerbin - That is, if the patched conics decide to show a Kerbin intercept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatisthisidonteven Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Maybe you're just not getting an intercept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etildard Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Are you using the interplanetary guide? if the planets aren't aligned precisely, you won't get an intercept unless you have tons of delta V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphox Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Without modifying the .cfg file to show those, you have to break from Kerbin and get into orbit around the Sun before it'll show any other encounters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bedlam Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Are you still in a Kerbin orbit while doing this burn? If so, have you upped CONIC_PATCH_LIMIT in settings.cfg? If you haven't, you won't be able to see any intercepts until you leave Kerbin's SOI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziff Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Did you modify the settings.cfg file in the KSP main directory? I recommend changing the CONIC_PATCH_LIMIT to at least 4 for interplanetary travel. It's possible it's not drawing far enough ahead for you to see the intercept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefTenderloin Posted September 24, 2012 Author Share Posted September 24, 2012 Upping the CONIC_PATCH_LIMIT helped, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikeyhat09 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Planet SOI's are minuscule. mun/min landings are childs play compared to reaching Duna. interplanetary travel is pretty much impossible without a higher level of precision (aka, angle measuring), or if you happen to have an incredible supply of good luck lying around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphox Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Planet SOI's are minuscule. mun/min landings are childs play compared to reaching Duna. interplanetary travel is pretty much impossible without a higher level of precision (aka, angle measuring), or if you happen to have an incredible supply of good luck lying around.Psh naw. If you do it right you can guestimate it and make small inclination adjustments to meet your mark. By guestimate I mean just make your map on-screen look like the on on the Olex calc. Did it once or twice before I crippled and started using a protractor. And now I have the new MechJeb with the PPA and escape angle measurements, which are spot on. Makes interplanetary transfers soooooo easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spikeyhat09 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Psh naw. If you do it right you can guestimate it and make small inclination adjustments to meet your mark. By guestimate I mean just make your map on-screen look like the on on the Olex calc. Did it once or twice before I crippled and started using a protractor. And now I have the new MechJeb with the PPA and escape angle measurements, which are spot on. Makes interplanetary transfers soooooo easy.I meant without any sort of mods. To me mechjeb is like cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoup Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I use mechjeb and several interplanetary aid calculators and still can't reliably reach other planets. The low thrust of the NERVAs makes determining the truly proper ejection angle for a ship using them a difficult task Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet-Launch Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I put a guide to doing interplanetary transfers without math in the How To section ("Duna for Dummies"). Quick summary, send several ships at once to bracket the planet and find where the SoI will be, and then make adjustments to the trajectories of the other spacecraft until they're all headed to the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixpackabs Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Planet SOI's are minuscule. mun/min landings are childs play compared to reaching Duna. interplanetary travel is pretty much impossible without a higher level of precision (aka, angle measuring), or if you happen to have an incredible supply of good luck lying around.I made it to jool and duna on my first try without even thinking about things like "ejection angles" or "orbital phases"then i had a long string of failing until i decided to use math Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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