invision Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Geonovast said: Oh I know KSP is pretty harsh on processors. I'm just wanting to fight the good fight, hoping that going from a 4 core 3.4 Ghz to a 4 core hyperthreaded 4.2 Ghz processor would help greatly with the multitasking while it's running KSP. I am planning on building a computer for the basement soon so my old i5 would be used again fairly quickly. Maybe I'll hold off on it until then unless stuff starts going on sale. Oh, and I have 16 Gigs of Ram That's never been an issue except the one time I left the game paused overnight and it was using 13 gigs by the next morning... if you want a new PC because you just do than yes buy it/build it just dont base the way it runs using KSP as you may only find it runs slightly better. just keep in mind the current prices of video cards will give you depression. ram is also through the roof. im just looking out for you man, dont want you wasting that good money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, invision said: if you want a new PC because you just do than yes buy it/build it just dont base the way it runs using KSP as you may only find it runs slightly better. just keep in mind the current prices of video cards will give you depression. ram is also through the roof. im just looking out for you man, dont want you wasting that good money. Yeah I don't understand the sudden increase in prices. The 1050Ti I bought not that long ago is now $30 more than I paid, and the memory is also up to $100 from the $70 I paid. Exact same stuff. Neither was on sale when I got it. Brief history: I bought this computer as a Full Build Bundle from NewEgg. Got two virtually identical computers; one for me, one for my wife. The only difference was the processor. I got the i5 and she got the G4400. Spoiler I then got the GPU and another 8GB stick of the memory. This increase really sucks because I can't bring myself to use anything else. It has to be the same. When I got the third stick, they had put the stickers on the opposite sides from the first two, and I ripped apart my wife's computer so I could have the two that matched. I really wish I'd just gotten the i7 when I bought the bundles instead of the i5. What would have been ~$150 more then is now looking to be ~$400 more now... Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshmeat Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Bitcoin miners are using every GPU they can get their dirty hands on. My favorite online parts dealer just turned down an order of 1000 cards, and every AMD GPU is out of stock. I am hanging on to an RX 280 with a flaky connection while I wait for the cryptocurrency market to crash and burn, leaving the retailers with a stockpile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 On 1/24/2018 at 5:16 AM, Freshmeat said: Bitcoin miners are using every GPU they can get their dirty hands on. My favorite online parts dealer just turned down an order of 1000 cards, and every AMD GPU is out of stock. I am hanging on to an RX 280 with a flaky connection while I wait for the cryptocurrency market to crash and burn, leaving the retailers with a stockpile. its free money so you cant blame them you can buy a GTX 1080ti and it pays for itself in 120 days. then buy another and pays itself in 60 days.....and repeat this until you are rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert_E_A Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, invision said: you can buy a GTX 1080ti and it pays for itself in 120 days. then buy another and pays itself in 60 days.....and repeat this until you are rich. Why not buy many cards at the same time? Edited January 26, 2018 by Albert_E_A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Albert_E_A said: Why not buy many cards at the same time? you could and it will be all the same this was just speaking from someone who may only have the budget to buy 1 card. then once the card is paid off you could buy another ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert_E_A Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 I see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshmeat Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 21 hours ago, invision said: its free money so you cant blame them you can buy a GTX 1080ti and it pays for itself in 120 days. then buy another and pays itself in 60 days.....and repeat this until you are rich. Until it does not work out like that any more. I am quite convinced that bitcoins are gonna tank heavily this year, and prices on GPUs are going to reflect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert_E_A Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 (edited) Let’s hope for that. Edited January 26, 2018 by Albert_E_A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 26, 2018 Share Posted January 26, 2018 54 minutes ago, Freshmeat said: Until it does not work out like that any more. I am quite convinced that bitcoins are gonna tank heavily this year, and prices on GPUs are going to reflect it. yep it sure will. but until then you mind as well collect wizard money while it lasts then collect those 1080ti's and rx-580's flooding the market for cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 Well, I did it. i7 7700K, another 16 GB of RAM, and the biggest freaking air cooler I've ever seen. Good thing the original computer bundle came with such a freakishly large case. Has a 140mm and 120mm fan on the cooler, moved the original rear case fan to the top. When I took this monster out of its case I was worried I wouldn't be able to use my GPU or put in the new RAM. Side panel just barely makes it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Geonovast said: Well, I did it. i7 7700K, another 16 GB of RAM, and the biggest freaking air cooler I've ever seen. Good thing the original computer bundle came with such a freakishly large case. Has a 140mm and 120mm fan on the cooler, moved the original rear case fan to the top. When I took this monster out of its case I was worried I wouldn't be able to use my GPU or put in the new RAM. Side panel just barely makes it on. i bought one of those coolers, its freaking massive. it ended up covering my ram slots so i had to place it in the closet and use it for a future build. what you could do is place a fan on the rear on the pc except outside the case and face it the proper direction of out-take , then snake the power wire into the case from the PCI slot tabs and power it. i did that method on my new PC except its directly behind the graphics card to remove the heat immediately Edited January 27, 2018 by invision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 7 hours ago, invision said: i bought one of those coolers, its freaking massive. it ended up covering my ram slots so i had to place it in the closet and use it for a future build. what you could do is place a fan on the rear on the pc except outside the case and face it the proper direction of out-take , then snake the power wire into the case from the PCI slot tabs and power it. i did that method on my new PC except its directly behind the graphics card to remove the heat immediately I removed the rear fan because I figured with those two giants on the heat sink, it would be alright. I also thought that I simply wouldn't have room. Although after getting the cooler in there, it looks like I do. The big downside to this is that it was a pain to install in the case that I really don't want to pull it out again, and I'm not too keep on putting the fan on the outside. So far my temps seem ok, except for constant spikes on the processor.... which is apparently very, very common on the 7700K. Will do it no matter much cooling you have, with de-lidding being the fix...which not sure I wanna do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert_E_A Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Geonovast said: So far my temps seem ok, except for constant spikes on the processor.... You did apply thermal paste? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Albert_E_A said: You did apply thermal paste? Yes I did. Reading up on this specific processor seems that the random 80-90 degree spikes is just what the 7700 and 7700K do. Intel says it's normal. I've seen what happens when you don't apply thermal paste. Geek Squad did it to my mom's computer once against my recommendation that she have them mess with it. It wouldn't even boot to Windows before shutting down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 On 16/01/2018 at 6:38 PM, Harry Rhodan said: That seems very optimistic. I would guess Zen 3 and the Ice Lake successor in 2020 could be the first generation that might be free of that stuff. Remember that this isn't a regular refresh. Developing a new processor family normally takes a couple of years, but this is both a subsystem (and therefore not an entire processor) and a major vulnerability. This needs to be fixed ASAP. Software mitigation can probably only do so much. Intel announced this week they will have fixed processors before the end of the year. AMD can't really afford not to, even if their processors are less vulnerable. I'm curious to see what the consensus in IT will turn out to be when safe processors emerge. If it does turn out software mitigation isn't fully possible, the conclusion might just be that you need new hardware if you're running any sort of respectable operation. If that's the case, we're going to see a lot of hardware being dumped. Obviously, Intel and AMD can only produce so many processors in any given period of time, so prices might spike. I don't see the major manufacturers exchanging hardware for free, as that would mean certain bankruptcy. No one is served by that, short or long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 finally recieved the motherboard i ordered and can put those rx-580's to work and make that wizard money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert_E_A Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, invision said: finally recieved the motherboard i ordered and can put those rx-580's to work and make that wizard money Hos much did the rx 580’s cost you? Edited January 29, 2018 by Albert_E_A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Albert_E_A said: Hos much did the rx 580’s cost you? 300.00 each i bought them a week before christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Wow... you guys aren't kidding about the GPU inflation. The GTX 1050 Ti I bought 6 months ago for $160 is now $240. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invision Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Geonovast said: Wow... you guys aren't kidding about the GPU inflation. The GTX 1050 Ti I bought 6 months ago for $160 is now $240. yeah its insane. everything is double in price and the AMD Vega cards are triple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 I wonder whether manufacturers are going to speculate on it lasting by increasing production. I've been slowly warming up to VR, but there's absolutely no way I'm going to spend close to a grand on a GPU alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p1t1o Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Ive got some old (coupla years) components to sell, am thinking about taking it down to "Computer Exchange" because ebaying each item is such a hassle. These are the big-ticket items, what would be a fair price to get? Item: Intel Core i5 4670K 3.40GHz Item: Asus Maximus VI HERO Z87 (motherboard) Just looking for ballpark figures, I know they probably arent going to offer full market value, I just want to know if I am getting totally ripped off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geonovast Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, p1t1o said: Just looking for ballpark figures, I know they probably arent going to offer full market value, I just want to know if I am getting totally ripped off. I would do a search for them on eBay, and filter by listings that have sold, not ones that are currently active. This can give you an idea of what people are actually paying for them, not what people are asking. Edited February 1, 2018 by Geonovast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
404 username not found Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 The title explains it all, just wondering if this PC can run ksphttps://www.amazon.com/Desktop-Gaming-Computer-Quad-Core-Graphic/dp/B07285RSTB/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1517526616&sr=1-3&keywords=gaming+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817224011%2Cp_n_feature_two_browse-bin%3A562241011|5446812011|5446813011|7817230011%2Cp_n_operating_system_browse-bin%3A12035945011|17004927011|2232492011|2232493011|12566246011|5945862011%2Cp_36%3A-60000%2Cp_computer_cpu_speed-bin%3A3+GHz+%26+Up%2Cp_n_feature_four_browse-bin%3A2289793011|3081486011%2Cp_n_feature_seven_browse-bin%3A3012495011|3012497011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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