Uncontrollable spin (something changed...)

[Michel Bartolone]

Something has changed. I'm not sure what. I was checking CKAN for mod updates, and I got a message that a huge list of mods had meta data updates and it asked me if I wanted to re-install them, so I did. Since then, ever ship I've built (and some that were there before and fine) has this uncontrollable spin, and the really odd part is it seems to come and go! What I mean by that last statement is, it seems to be related to targetting or maneuver nodes...I can get the ship to stop spinning, _some of the time_ if I set up a new maneuver node, or if I click it into warp for a second, then back out...the ship will usually start to spin again, but if it is slow enough, and I keep my eyes on how fast I let it get, I can stop it, or slow it enough to make the next maneuver. However, it isn't just in one direction...it may spin clockwise, it may spin counterclockwise.   At first I thought it was competing probe cores, but all of my probe cores are set to hibernate, except the one that is currently operating the craft. It seems to happen more often on ascent/circularization, then goes away for one stage, but then comes back when I stage next. 

 

I'm thinking about doing a complete uninstall and reinstall of the game, then the expansion packs, and finally the dozens of mods I have installed and seeing if that fixes it. I've had other oddities over the years, that a complete, fresh install seemed to fix it.

Here is my current mod list:
ABookCase Orbital Reference System (ABCORS 0.5.1.6)
Action Groups Extended (AGExt 1:2.4.1.3)
Advanced Fly-By-Wire (Windows) (AdvancedFlyByWire 1.8.3.7)
All Aboard! (AllAboard 1.0.1.1)
Animate Generic Effects Module (ModuleAnimateGenericEffects 0.1.4)
Animated Decouplers (AnimatedDecouplers v1.5.0)
ASET Agency (ASETAgency 1.0)
ASET Props (ASETProps 1.5)
Astrogator (Astrogator v1.0.0)
AT Utils (AT-Utils v1.10.1)
B9 Part Switch (B9PartSwitch v2.20.0)
BetterBurnTime (BetterBurnTime 1.10)
Bluedog Design Bureau (BluedogDB v1.9.0)
Breaking Ground (BreakingGround-DLC 1.7.1)
Camera Tools continued (CameraTools v1.25.0)
ClickThrough Blocker (ClickThroughBlocker 1:2.1.10.18)
Community Category Kit (CommunityCategoryKit v112.0.1)
Community Delta-V Maps (CommunityDeltaVMaps 2:2.8)
Community Parts Titles (CommunityPartsTitles 0.9.3)
Community Parts Titles Extras: Categories (CommunityPartsTitlesExtrasCategory 0.9.3)
Community Parts Titles Extras: CCK - No Duplicates (CommunityPartsTitlesExtrasNoCCKDup 0.9.3)
Community Resource Pack (CommunityResourcePack v112.0.1)
Configurable Containers (ConfigurableContainers 2.6.2.1)
Contract Configurator (ContractConfigurator v2.2.0.0)
CorrectCoL (CorrectCoL 1.6.5.4)
Corvus CF (Corvus125mTwoKerbalPod 2:1.3.7)
Craft Manager (CraftManager 1.2.0)
DMModuleScienceAnimateGeneric (DMagicScienceAnimate v0.23)
Dock Rotate (DockRotate v1.12.1.55)
Docking Port Alignment Indicator (DockingPortAlignmentIndicator 6.10.0.0)
Draggable Altimeter (DraggableAltimeter v1.1.0)
Draggable Navball (DraggableNavball v1.0.1.5)
EarlyBird (EarlyBird 0.2.1.0)
Easy Vessel Switch (EVS) (EasyVesselSwitch 2.3)
Editor Extensions Redux (EditorExtensionsRedux 3.4.3.5)
EVA Enhancements Continued (EVAEnhancementsContinued 0.1.15.3)
EvaFollower (EvaFollower 1:1.1.1.14)
Experiment Tracker (ExperimentTracker 1:v1.3.5.2)
Extended information about scientific experiments in VAB (ScienceSituationInfo 1:1.3.5)
Filter Extensions - Default Configuration (FilterExtensionsDefaultConfig 3.2.7)
Filter Extensions - Plugin (FilterExtensions 3.2.7)
Final Frontier (FinalFrontier 1.10.0-3485)
Firespitter (Firespitter v7.17)
Firespitter Core (FirespitterCore v7.17)
Firespitter Resources config (FirespitterResourcesConfig v7.17)
FullAutoStrut (FullAutoStrut v3.0.1.0)
GravityTurn Continued (GravityTurnContinued 3:1.8.2.3)
Harmony 2 (Harmony2 2.2.1.0)
HeapPadder (HeapPadder 0.0.2.3)
Keep It Straight (KeepItStraight 1.4.0)
Kerbal Actuators (KerbalActuators v1.8.5)
Kerbal Alarm Clock (KerbalAlarmClock v3.14.0.0)
Kerbal Attachment System (KAS 1.12)
Kerbal Improved Save System (KerbalImprovedSaveSystem v2.4.2)
Kerbal Inventory System (KIS 1.29)
Kerbulator (Kerbulator 2:0.5)
KSP AVC (KSP-AVC 1.4.1.9)
KSP Community Fixes (KSPCommunityFixes 1.23.0)
KSP Recall (KSP-Recall v0.3.0.3)
KSP Resonant Orbit Calculator (ResonantOrbitCalculator 0.0.6.3)
KSP Wheel (KSPWheel 1:0.16.14.33)
KXAPI (KXAPI 1.2.0)
Magpie Mods (MagpieMods 1.5.9)
Making History (MakingHistory-DLC 1.12.1)
MechJeb 2 (MechJeb2 2.14.2.0)
Moar Filter Extension Configs (MoarFEConfigs 1.0.5.2)
ModularFlightIntegrator (ModularFlightIntegrator 1.2.10.0)
Module Manager (ModuleManager 4.2.2)
Navball Docking Alignment Indicator CE-2 (NavballDockAlignIndCE 1.1.1.3)
Near Future IVA Props (NearFutureProps 1:0.7.1)
Neptune Camera (NeptuneCamera v4.1)
Not So SimpleConstruction! (NSSC) (NotSoSimpleConstruction 1.0.99.3-prerelease)
Notes (notes 0.17.0.0-adoption)
Part Wizard Continued (PartWizardContinued 1.3.9)
Patch Manager (PatchManager 0.0.17.6)
PersistentRotation Upgraded (PersistentRotationUpgraded 1.9.1.7)
Precise Editor (PreciseEditor v1.4.1)
Precise Maneuver (KPM) (PreciseManeuver 2:2.4.99.0-adoption)
Procedural Fairings (ProceduralFairings 1:v6.3.0)
Procedural Fairings - For Everything! (ProceduralFairings-ForEverything v0.3.0)
Progress Parser (ProgressParser 11.0)
Project Manager (ProjectManager v2.4)
RasterPropMonitor (RasterPropMonitor 1:v0.31.9)
RasterPropMonitor Core (RasterPropMonitor-Core 1:v0.31.9)
Real Plume (RealPlume 2:v13.3.2)
Real Plume - Stock Configs (RealPlume-StockConfigs v4.0.8)
RealChute Parachute Systems (RealChute v1.4.8.3)
ReStock (ReStock 1.4.3)
ReStock Extra - Rigid Legs (RestockRigidLegs 1.4.3)
ReStock+ (ReStockPlus 1.4.3)
S.A.V.E Resaved (SAVE 1.11.0.2)
SCANsat (SCANsat v20.4)
ScienceAlert ReAlerted (ScienceAlert 1.9.10.1)
Simple Adjustable Fairings - Plugin (SimpleAdjustableFairings v1.12.0)
SimpleConstruction! (SimpleConstruction 1:4.0.2.7)
SIMPLEX TechTree (SimplexTechTree 3:1.28)
SmokeScreen - Extended FX Plugin (SmokeScreen 2.8.14.0)
Solar Science (SOL) (SolarScience 1:v1.2.0.0)
Space Age (SpaceAge v1.3.7)
SpaceTux Library (SpaceTuxLibrary 0.0.8.4)
Speed Unit Annex (SpeedUnitAnnex 1.4.4)
SSTO Project (SSTOProject 1.4.5)
Station Keeping (StationKeeping 1:0.2.2.3)
Store My Reports (StoreMyReports 1.2.0.1)
Targetron Adopted (Targetron v1.7.0)
Textures Unlimited (TexturesUnlimited 1.5.10.25)
The Janitor's Closet (JanitorsCloset 0.3.7.8)
ToadicusToolsContinued (ToadicusToolsContinued 1.22.4.4)
Toolbar (Toolbar 1:1.8.0.8)
Toolbar Controller (ToolbarController 1:0.1.9.8)
Trajectories (Trajectories v2.4.3)
TriggerAu Flags (TriggerAu-Flags v2.11.0.0)
TweakableEverythingContinued (TweakableEverythingCont 0.2.1)
TweakScale - Rescale Everything! (TweakScale v2.4.6.18)
TweakScale Companion for ReStockPlus (TweakScaleCompanion-ReStockPlus v1.1.0.0)
TweakScale Redistributable (TweakScale-Redist v2.4.6.18)
UICore (UICore 1.0.2)
Universal Storage II Finalized (UniversalStorage2 4.0.0.7)
USI Tools (USITools v112.0.1)
VariantPersist (VariantPersist 1.1)
Vessel Notes & Logs (VesselNotes 0.0.2.2)
Waterfall Core (Waterfall 0.9.0)
WaypointManager (WaypointManager 2.8.3.4)
Zero MiniAVC (ZeroMiniAVC 1:1.1.2.5)
 

[DeadJohn]

It sounds like you may have a problem with "phantom forces".

My most frequent trigger for that is EVA construction; it gets so bad that ships can accelerate and torque so much parts explode into each other.  Part offsetting in VAB can also cause phantom forces. The Kerbal Joint Reinforcement KJR mod can have problems if I am not using the correct version for my KSP, but I don't see KJR in your mod list.

In your case, I'll add that since you updated so many mods, maybe some of your commonly used parts that were ok before had their size or colliders modified. Your previously good ship designs might now be getting phantom forces.

Here's what I would try:

1. I hope you made a backup before upgrading mods so you can revert if needed. This would be a backup of your entire KSP folder including setting files and mods, not merely a KSP savefile.
2. Make a new backup of your current setup.
3. Uninstall the PersistentRotation mod. Do ships still rotate uncontrollably? If not, re-add PersistentRotation and see if the problem starts again. If PersistentRotation is triggering your phantom forces, consider playing without it or ask for help in that mod's thread.
4. Continue checking other mods as needed. Focus on mods that affect all of your rotating ships. Tweakscale? Dock Rotate if all affected ships have docking ports? KSP Recall in case some of its patches changed?