Buy from steam or directly from private division?

[securityinstruts]

I would like to put my money towards those that deserve it.

Steam takes a cut but they have proton -yes, I'm linux user.
I bought KSP1 directly because they have native client. Something that, if I'm correct, will eventually come into existence once KSP2 leaves EA stage.

So, what do you think? Steam or directly?

[Moons]

To be honest - looking at the game and the price wouldnt it be better to wait for a bit? Also if nothing is done looking at the player count i wonder how long this game will last - especially in regards to mods - modder usually stay with popular games and this game also requries a lot of performance without any mods so i wonder how much room there is for mods.

KSP1 now has 3200 vs KSP2 1500 which is pretty bad.

Also - to be honest - i trust steam more than other platforms and prefer the steam update system.

 

Dont get me wrong i like KSP in general but i dont want to support this business decisions (especially EA and price vs quality/content) - i hope if enough people show them that this isnt okay then they will eventually have to react in a meaningful way. And i alos do wonder if this game will become the next KSP1 since looking at the fast drop of players i wonder if modders will really switch to KSP2. And yes i think mods are what kept KSP1 releveant and interresting for so long.

Edited March 2, 2023 by Moons

[radimov]

If you buy it through steam you may find it more convenient to keep it updated but you also save the developers the approximately 30% commission that Steam takes.

11 minutes ago, Moons said:

To be honest - looking at the game and the price wouldnt it be better to wait for a bit? Also if nothing is done looking at the player count i wonder how long this game will last - especially in regards to mods - modder usually stay with popular games and this game also requries a lot of performance without any mods so i wonder how much room there is for mods.

KSP1 now has 3200 vs KSP2 1500 which is pretty bad.

Also - to be honest - i trust steam more than other platforms and prefer the steam update system.

 

Dont get me wrong i like KSP in general but i dont want to support this business decisions (especially EA and price vs quality/content) - i hope if enough people show them that this isnt okay then they will eventually have to react in a meaningful way. And i alos do wonder if this game will become the next KSP1 since looking at the fast drop of players i wonder if modders will really switch to KSP2. And yes i think mods are what kept KSP1 releveant and interresting for so long.

I have KSP2 and installed KSP1 to compare versions and do some science mission while waiting for new KSP2 content I think that doesn't mean much.

I like to enjoy the early access process and see how everything is evolving, but that's not for everyone. I have no problem with paying for early access, but people should know what they are buying.

The game with all the content doesn't seem expensive to me, we are talking about space colonies, resource collection, interstellar travel, multiplayer, co-op... But it is clear that all that will not come soon.

It is up to the user to accept these conditions or not.

[Moons]

25 minutes ago, radimov said:

If you buy it through steam you may find it more convenient to keep it updated but you also save the developers the approximately 30% commission that Steam takes.

I have KSP2 and installed KSP1 to compare versions and do some science mission while waiting for new KSP2 content I think that doesn't mean much.

I like to enjoy the early access process and see how everything is evolving, but that's not for everyone. I have no problem with paying for early access, but people should know what they are buying.

The game with all the content doesn't seem expensive to me, we are talking about space colonies, resource collection, interstellar travel, multiplayer, co-op... But it is clear that all that will not come soon.

It is up to the user to accept these conditions or not.

Well to me it means much when the old game has more players than a new release days after release.

 

I also enjoy early access - but to me this isnt early access since they pretty much just sold an alpha at a full AAA price while giving me all the negatives as a consumer and none of the positive things of EA. EA means when i buy i buy as is and i have no guarantee that the game ever gets finished and/or in what state - therefore its normal for EA games to cost way less. To me what they have done seems pretty de-valuating to me - they want the full price of an AAA game now, they dont want to give me any guarantees for the finished product, they released the game in a rather bad state with not much content and im supposed to pretend that thats okay.  In my personal opinion that doesnt show much respect for the community and im not even talking about the EULA in regards to privacy and modders ...

 

I also bought Sons of the Forest - the game is buggy - doesnt have that much content yet - but guess what - im okay with it because i see it as an investment/purchase and for that reason i only had to pay about 30 USD for it. It feels like the community is appreciated as investor and helping to make the game better. But when someone wants the full price of an AAA game for a really really early EA game then i feel more like a walking wallet ...

Edited March 2, 2023 by Moons

[Periple]

If it's an indie developer struggling to keep their nose above the water, I buy from whichever source gives them the biggest cut of the revenue, even if it's a bit more inconvenient for me.

If it's a mega-publisher with a turnover larger than some countries' GDP, I figure their beancounters have factored in all the cuts intermediaries take, and buy wherever is most convenient for me.

[securityinstruts]

Oh, I totally forgot the mods since rarely use them but they have been keeping KSP1 relevant for many people.
Seeing that many aspects of the game will be updated in a manner that will -most likely- break mods, having to manually install& manage the version that I would be using is preferable to sudden surprise update that -maybe- breaks the current save/mods.
For this reason I'm leaning towards buying directly, can you change my mind?

As a off-topic question for those that have the game;
Is there a launcher from which you can manage the version being launched?

[Periple]

You can switch off auto-updates on Steam. KSP also allowed you to opt into a channel to keep the version stable, I expect KSP2 will be the same once it, uh, stabilizes. 

The launcher doesn't let you manage the version ATM at least.

[magnemoe]

26 minutes ago, Periple said:

You can switch off auto-updates on Steam. KSP also allowed you to opt into a channel to keep the version stable, I expect KSP2 will be the same once it, uh, stabilizes. 

The launcher doesn't let you manage the version ATM at least.

As KSP 2 don't have drm you can copy the game out. 
I see it as more of an hassle however and has had issues with no auto update in steam getting ignored.