theogameren Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 it work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 5 minutes ago, arbsoup said: Phabus looks like that from a modest distance for me too, but if you land a vessel on the surface and zoom in on it, do you still see gravel/rocky terrain, or does it get blurred out? I do for bodies like Masmar and all the others, but not for these three. Ryla: https://ibb.co/899zmqg Vizak: https://ibb.co/SKHCz00 compare vs. Encethys: https://ibb.co/N2rYy9Y Masmar (): https://ibb.co/s20L525 When I landed on Phabus, it still shows. When I last checked the same is true for Ryla and Vizak, but for memory reasons I'll have to test that again when I regain access to the KSP computer. Also pro tip it might be easier to upload those pictures to imgur so they actually embed into the forum post. I'm not sure what the difference here is, beyond the physical size of the planet, so I'll have to do some digging before I move forward with the Sarnus feature plans. 5 minutes ago, theogameren said: it work Hooray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbsoup Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) 2 hours ago, The Minmus Derp said: I'm not sure what the difference here is, beyond the physical size of the planet, so I'll have to do some digging before I move forward with the Sarnus feature plans. One difference is that Vizak, Ryla, and Phabus all define materialType and a Material{} node in their PQS, whereas Hypo, Masmar, and Encethys do not. Removing these for Phabus "fixed" this issue — though the terrain texture there is probably not quite what was intended, and it made the PQS-to-Scaled transition even more jarring since it now also changes color quite drastically. Another option would be to change materialType away from Vacuum. I ripped a page out of OPM and subbed in Hale's AtmosphericExtra Material definition with some CTTP texture swaps (does BUILTIN/RockyGround have a separate normal map? I think I'd need one if I wanted to keep your choice of textures...), and it worked sort-of alright: https://ibb.co/TKwKzfk With powerFar = 0.2 and groundTexEnd/steepTexEnd = 1000: https://ibb.co/SfjGrCC Though the color change is still a little jarring, and even increasing PQS fadeStart/fadeEnd didn't fix the abrupt transition. Not sure what a good next step would be, but I think this demonstrates that if there's a problem it's in the Material{} definition. EDIT: As a complete bypass to the system, there's also Parallax, though that runs into problems with the pixelation of the terrain color and height definitions, I think. Coming up with a good-looking and not-laggy Parallax config will be quite an exercise and I'm not sure I'm ready to take it on. https://ibb.co/FwDBwR7 Quote Also pro tip it might be easier to upload those pictures to imgur so they actually embed into the forum post. Imgur isn't accepting my files for whatever reason. I don't like it much anyway. Edited August 11 by arbsoup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 1 hour ago, arbsoup said: Imgur isn't accepting my files for whatever reason. I don't like it much anyway. In that case when you upload things to your site of choice, try copying the image link by right clicking on the picture once its uploaded, not the link to the website. Like this: 1 hour ago, arbsoup said: One difference is that Vizak, Ryla, and Phabus all define materialType and a Material{} node in their PQS, whereas Hypo, Masmar, and Encethys do not. Removing these for Phabus "fixed" this issue — though the terrain texture there is probably not quite what was intended, and it made the PQS-to-Scaled transition even more jarring since it now also changes color quite drastically. Given that this definitely doesn't happen in other places that have broadly the same material node, like Dathil, Lyxis, and any number of Neidonian moons, this is starting to seem more and more like an arbsoup's-computer-specific problem. Of course there is the possibility that the small size of the objects are having an effect as well, given that Dathil and Lyxis are both very large in comparison (although Nyla and Psei, the originators of the template I'm using, are barely larger than Phabus) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbsoup Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 (edited) Well, that's that, I suppose. Installed about as few mods as I needed for the test and still had the issues. Guess I'll either figure some Parallax patch out on my main install or just leave this out altogether. Damn, sorry about that. Edited August 11 by arbsoup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 11 Author Share Posted August 11 I'll see if there's anything I can do while I work on updates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 @arbsoup This is definitely a problem with your computer, I just landed on Phabus and the PQS was exactly as intended the whole way through. Spoiler 300 meters ^ 30 meters ^ Orbit ^ While Ryla has... its own problems , it doesn't exhibit the behavior that you showed on my end either. this looks damn weird and I have no clue how to fix it, but its not what you show happening ^ Vizak is just supposed to be white thats the point Sorry that I cannot help you in this case. Perhaps some logs could actually give some insight? In other news, DwarfPlanetsPlus should actually be coming soon this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbsoup Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) 28 minutes ago, The Minmus Derp said: @arbsoup This is definitely a problem with your computer, I just landed on Phabus and the PQS was exactly as intended the whole way through. Huh. See, that 30m picture still looks pretty blurry, but if it's intentional, it's intentional. Quote Sorry that I cannot help you in this case. Perhaps some logs could actually give some insight? That's alright; if the problem's mine, then I won't waste your time. I'll figure things out on my own if I have to; if it goes really well I might end up with Parallax configs to share. Edited August 12 by arbsoup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 6 minutes ago, arbsoup said: Huh. See, that 30m picture still looks pretty blurry, but if it's intentional, it's intentional. Gotta be fully honest I haven't seen any planet that isn't slightly blurry with RockyGround. I may want to make a replacement in the future. IN OTHER NEWS: I'm really close to fixing Ryla's PQS, for real this time. (the fourth time I've said that) Now its not obviously glitched, but I'm stuck as to how to make it as bright as it is in scaledspace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 3 hours ago, The Minmus Derp said: In other news, DwarfPlanetsPlus should actually be coming soon this time. i smell new addon? MUST HAVE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) @The Minmus Derp, is this how Phabus should be? Yup, Ryla needs a fix, which is being worked on. Is Hypo's crater edges supposed to be spikey? Edited August 12 by theogameren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmccreight651 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Does anyone know what's happening here? All the airless planets are completely black whilst the atmospheric worlds only have a slight lighting to them. I have ALL the OPX mods installed. https://imgur.com/a/IGjMlbH Log: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qaihfxqzv4v3p4wkvwkcq/KSP.log?rlkey=iemu9n9q0kmqwi4f26mcruumc&st=sz0yirax&dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 9 hours ago, theogameren said: is this how Phabus should be? You seem to be missing a builtin ground texture, but it doesnt look too off to me 9 hours ago, theogameren said: Yup, Ryla needs a fix, which is being worked on. Its actually done! 9 hours ago, theogameren said: Is Hypo's crater edges supposed to be spikey? Yeah 1 hour ago, tmccreight651 said: Does anyone know what's happening here? All the airless planets are completely black whilst the atmospheric worlds only have a slight lighting to them. I have ALL the OPX mods installed. https://imgur.com/a/IGjMlbH Log: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qaihfxqzv4v3p4wkvwkcq/KSP.log?rlkey=iemu9n9q0kmqwi4f26mcruumc&st=sz0yirax&dl=0 What other mods do you have? This isn't happening to me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 (edited) Is it possible that you play with GPP_Secondary or GEP? cuz those breaks opx- ssm. 5 hours ago, tmccreight651 said: Does anyone know what's happening here? All the airless planets are completely black whilst the atmospheric worlds only have a slight lighting to them. I have ALL the OPX mods installed. https://imgur.com/a/IGjMlbH Log: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qaihfxqzv4v3p4wkvwkcq/KSP.log?rlkey=iemu9n9q0kmqwi4f26mcruumc&st=sz0yirax&dl=0 Edited August 12 by theogameren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmccreight651 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 3 hours ago, The Minmus Derp said: You seem to be missing a builtin ground texture, but it doesnt look too off to me Its actually done! Yeah What other mods do you have? This isn't happening to me at all. Modlist: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ml4dus5dgk8ir18dckc5q/Modlist.txt?rlkey=lqj25wylohzjakwv4d6cqm6w5&st=wvrly0rj&dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 i had a seizure reading that. what do you have of planet packs, and visuals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmccreight651 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 5 minutes ago, theogameren said: i had a seizure reading that. what do you have of planet packs, and visuals? OPM, Minor Planets Expansion, Janet's Minor Planets and the OPX suite, as for visual mods I have EVE stock configs, Planetshine with default configs and Scatterer with default configs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 On 8/12/2024 at 12:08 AM, The Minmus Derp said: Am need ryla pqs where download Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 13 Author Share Posted August 13 10 hours ago, theogameren said: Am need ryla pqs where download Soon! I'm working on the first set of pseudobodies, I'll bundle the new Ryla stuff with that so it isn't the tiniest update in the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 ah ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmccreight651 Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 On 8/12/2024 at 1:53 PM, tmccreight651 said: Does anyone know what's happening here? All the airless planets are completely black whilst the atmospheric worlds only have a slight lighting to them. I have ALL the OPX mods installed. https://imgur.com/a/IGjMlbH Log: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qaihfxqzv4v3p4wkvwkcq/KSP.log?rlkey=iemu9n9q0kmqwi4f26mcruumc&st=sz0yirax&dl=0 OK, ive fixed it. Whatever the issue is is seems to be with the Kerbol revamp in the stock system overhaul. I disabled that in the settings and it fixed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) same issue here though i deleted the mod u did the right thing Edited August 14 by theogameren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theogameren Posted August 14 Share Posted August 14 (edited) On 8/13/2024 at 7:13 PM, The Minmus Derp said: Soon! I'm working on the first set of pseudobodies, I'll bundle the new Ryla stuff with that so it isn't the tiniest update in the universe. wut is pseudobody m̵̧̨̺̹͖̞̃́̇ǔ̶̺͕̻͉̞̙͖̆̈́̅s̷̭̈̔t̸̝͉͎̼͈̊̑͘ ̵̡̢̺͍̗͙͉̋̑͗̋͑̃͌͜ḵ̸͚̩͖͎̃̓͗̄̇̃̉͝n̴̩̬̺̖̳̟̞̊͑̈́̎ǒ̵̥̗̲̱̩̙̯̗͐̊̚w̸̨̰̬̟͉͐̐͆̀̈́ Edited August 14 by theogameren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minmus Derp Posted August 14 Author Share Posted August 14 1 hour ago, theogameren said: wut is pseudobody m̵̧̨̺̹͖̞̃́̇ǔ̶̺͕̻͉̞̙͖̆̈́̅s̷̭̈̔t̸̝͉͎̼͈̊̑͘ ̵̡̢̺͍̗͙͉̋̑͗̋͑̃͌͜ḵ̸͚̩͖͎̃̓͗̄̇̃̉͝n̴̩̬̺̖̳̟̞̊͑̈́̎ǒ̵̥̗̲̱̩̙̯̗͐̊̚w̸̨̰̬̟͉͐̐͆̀̈́ Go and check out Edge of Eternity. Its a system that the author of that mod invented to flesh out a moon system of a planet and add set dressing without hopelessly oversaturating it with science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Kerbin Posted August 15 Share Posted August 15 (edited) @The Minmus Derp what are DresMoon2 and Selbig???? I found them in the Cache file of OPX-SSM. Is Selbig the Eve moon? DresMoon2 is kinda self explanatory. EDIT: Why did you resize Minmus? To make it more comet-like? Is that why it's set to Comet? Edited August 15 by Mr. Kerbin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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