Cloakedwand72 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Can we go to mars with only heavy lift private rockets? With crew dragon still being the mars lander. Edited March 14 by Cloakedwand72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacescifi Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Cloakedwand72 said: Can we go to mars with only heavy lift private rockets? Yes... if they reinvented their own starship. How else will you get back? You need reusable launch vehicles... which is what Starship is designed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 It has been lots of designs dated back to the 60's Also this tread. But you will need heavy lift rockets and an space station like habitat for the trip to it and back. The mars lander and accent rocket does not need to be reusable but its make having an base much cheaper if you can produce fuel on Mars. As in private, no China plans an very heavy Long March rocket. US found it cheaper to buy the services from companies. As for dragon, it can not take off, SpaceX had an idea of using it as an lander who could hold various payloads like small rovers and even an sample return rocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Crew Dragon is useless as a Mars lander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacescifi Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Another way to put it is this. If you do not want to waste money you need reusable rocketry. And if you want to colonize anywhere beyond earth you need reusable lest you waste money and resources you cannot even get back. Edited March 14 by Spacescifi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, magnemoe said: As in private, no China plans an very heavy Long March rocket I think I've heard whispers that they're nuking the superheavy and going with Earth Orbital Assembly for the Lunar mission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AckSed Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 27 minutes ago, DDE said: I think I've heard whispers that they're nuking the superheavy and going with Earth Orbital Assembly for the Lunar mission Also, India definitely is going for orbital assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacescifi Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, AckSed said: Also, India definitely is going for orbital assembly. Certainly seems easier judging by how many times Starship has blown up... not to say he won't succeed. Just that we have skylab and the ISS as proof that we can do orbital assembly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted March 15 Share Posted March 15 30 minutes ago, DDE said: I think I've heard whispers that they're nuking the superheavy and going with Earth Orbital Assembly for the Lunar mission Yes that works for the moon. 3-4 falcon heavies should do it. You then has to meet the lander in moon orbit Mars, 12 expended FH for an bare bone mission is my guess. Manned interplanetary missions has an added downside of being multi year ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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