International construction ISS in Kerbal orbit.

[ahd1601]

OK, then you might want to add a docking port for the Dragon. And sorry to be a bother, but it's fact check time:

The UDM and DSM are canceled so no need to make it. A different module will be replacing added in their place in the near future.

The Rafaello MPLM is gone, now the Leonardo MPLM is permanently attached below Node 1. And Node 3 is opposite the QUEST airlock.

You might want to look into adding the ESAs ATV spacecraft along with the current resupply craft you have.

[Poldarias]

Just change dragon port size to 5 or stick a CBM on it?

[WCOLE360]

That's a bit demanding saying we already know all of this, and if

you looked earlier on the thread you'd see it. The ATV is being tested, posted yesterday, and we know about Leonardo, but maybe someone wants to assemble the station from start to end, have the cancelled modules, etc, they'd want mplm instead of PMM.

[ahd1601]

That's a bit demanding saying we already know all of this, and if

you looked earlier on the thread you'd see it. The ATV is being tested, posted yesterday, and we know about Leonardo, but maybe someone wants to assemble the station from start to end, have the cancelled modules, etc, they'd want mplm instead of PMM.

Ok, sorry about the ATV thing, I was looking at the main post and it wasn't mentioned. Can't wait for this thing to be finished though!

[Netris]

OK, then you might want to add a docking port for the Dragon. And sorry to be a bother, but it's fact check time:

The UDM and DSM are canceled so no need to make it. A different module will be replacing added in their place in the near future.

The Rafaello MPLM is gone, now the Leonardo MPLM is permanently attached below Node 1. And Node 3 is opposite the QUEST airlock.

You might want to look into adding the ESAs ATV spacecraft along with the current resupply craft you have.

Jeez, why people never take a bit of their time to read a few pages back ? And that's not because UDM and DSM were cancelled that someone can not do them. If someone wanted to make the SPP why not ? If you want to make the ISS as it is right now, just don't sent it to space. But for people who want to make the original design or just want to add more thing, it's great.

[ahd1601]

alright im confused, all diagrams show the canadarm mounted on the truss but when it is docking the dragon, its mounted on node 3 where the dragon connects to. where should i mount the arm?

[Razorcane]

alright im confused, all diagrams show the canadarm mounted on the truss but when it is docking the dragon, its mounted on node 3 where the dragon connects to. where should i mount the arm?

Knowing them, they probably move it around as it's needed. They can do that after all.

[Netris]

It's mounted on a cart moving all along the truss.

[daver4470]

It's mounted on a cart moving all along the truss.

And it can "walk" itself to any active arm connection on the ISS, as it's actually double-ended (it has the same hand connector at each end). Which is why it's mounted on Node 3 for Dragon dockings. The full Canadarm capability is, I think, extremely difficult to model in KSP right now....

[daver4470]

I think someone asked way back in the thread whether Nauka was going to be added to the pack.

Nauka is basically just the backup FGB that would have been launched if Zarya's launch had failed, with additional doodads and stuff inside, the European arm, and a different radiator. So you can effectively add it right now, without a new model -- just take the existing FGB part, add a pair of Mir solar panels to it, and stick it on the nadir port of Zvezda. (And add a Buran manipulator arm to it if you want to get fancy, I guess.) It should look very similar to the Nauka when it's launched.

[Netris]

I think someone asked way back in the thread whether Nauka was going to be added to the pack.

Nauka is basically just the backup FGB that would have been launched if Zarya's launch had failed, with additional doodads and stuff inside, the European arm, and a different radiator. So you can effectively add it right now, without a new model -- just take the existing FGB part, add a pair of Mir solar panels to it, and stick it on the nadir port of Zvezda. (And add a Buran manipulator arm to it if you want to get fancy, I guess.) It should look very similar to the Nauka when it's launched.

Pretty much. But I think Nauka with the Zvezda's panels would look a bit off. While Zarya/Nauka's panels are 10.67 by 3.35 meters, Zvezda's panels are 29.7 meters long. Nearly 3 time as long.

[daver4470]

Pretty much. But I think Nauka with the Zvezda's panels would look a bit off. While Zarya/Nauka's panels are 10.67 by 3.35 meters, Zvezda's panels are 29.7 meters long. Nearly 3 time as long.

Good point.

I suppose you could use the TKS panels from CBBP's Kosmos pack. Not a perfect match, but closer in size to the Zarya-sized panels (although they're off-scale a bit).

[Netris]

Good point.

I suppose you could use the TKS panels from CBBP's Kosmos pack. Not a perfect match, but closer in size to the Zarya-sized panels (although they're off-scale a bit).

If you can find the perfect rescale factor, it could. But I don't know what it is. Maybey .64, I've never tried this obvious number. Don't know why.

[Anthony Frushour]

Kerbals are scaled to 0.64 roughly of humans, therefore everything else is too, got as close as I could without making it look squishy.

I know the scale, and I probably should have worded that better. My point was is that the polygons are reversed, Unity Node 1 is shorter than Harmony/Tranquility Node 2/3. Here's a photo from STS-120 to show comparison.

Edited May 29, 2013 by Anthony Frushour

[Anthony Frushour]

Sorry I may have posted my reply twice, internet issues.

[Guest]

Actually, the "perfect factor" is 1. The default factor is 1.25, if you change it to 1, you get "BobCat size" parts.

[Netris]

Actually, the "perfect factor" is 1. The default factor is 1.25, if you change it to 1, you get "BobCat size" parts.

No, it isn't. I tried this rescale factor earlier. I used Salyut from the Kosmos pack and the Mir Core Module from BobCat to compare. Salyut was about 1/4 longer than Mir when they should be the same.

[Guest]

Nope, Mir Core was 13m long and Salyut was 16m long. So, it's about right.

I know the scale, and I probably should have worded that better. My point was is that the polygons are reversed, Unity Node 1 is shorter than Harmony/Tranquility Node 2/3. Here's a photo from STS-120 to show comparison.

Try to upload the pic to an image host. Linking to your HD won't get you anywhere.

[Anthony Frushour]

Nope, Mir Core was 13m long and Salyut was 16m long. So, it's about right.

Try to upload the pic to an image host. Linking to your HD won't get you anywhere.

Thanks for letting me know about the linking to HD thing, wasn't sure if it would work, but figured "why not try it."

Edited May 29, 2013 by Anthony Frushour

[Netris]

Nope, Mir Core was 13m long and Salyut was 16m long. So, it's about right.

For the length you're right. But Salyut looks about 30% larger when it should even not be noticeable. I'll try once again though.

EDIT : how old are you Anthony Frushour ?

[Anthony Frushour]

For the length you're right. But Salyut looks about 30% larger when it should even not be noticeable. I'll try once again though.

EDIT : how old are you Anthony Frushour ?

I'm 22, visited KSC in high school and that's how I got into space exploration and planetary science (the Constellation Program was being developed at that time, following Curiosity now (yay geology!)). I followed as the final shuttle missions finished the ISS; I saw Endeavour launch on STS-130 (Cupola/Node 3) & STS-134 (Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer), so I knew immediately once I saw it.

[daver4470]

For the length you're right. But Salyut looks about 30% larger when it should even not be noticeable. I'll try once again though.

I think that might be a design issue and not a scaling issue.

Also, CBBP's parts weigh a ton. BobCat's Proton can't effectively lift a TKS into orbit, it's so heavy.... Other than that, he does great work.

[Netris]

I'm 22, visited KSC in high school and that's how I got into space exploration and planetary science (the Constellation Program was being developed at that time, following Curiosity now (yay geology!)). I followed as the final shuttle missions finished the ISS; I saw Endeavour launch on STS-130 (Cupola/Node 3) & STS-134 (Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer), so I knew immediately once I saw it.

Oh jeez. I thought you were 13-14. Like it was the first time you went on the internet because you didn't know you have to upload a picture in order for us to see it. Sorry ^^ (you're actually 1 year younger than me )

I think that might be a design issue and not a scaling issue.

Also, CBBP's parts weigh a ton. BobCat's Proton can't effectively lift a TKS into orbit, it's so heavy.... Other than that, he does great work.

Ok, my bad. I forgot to put away the thruster block and it screwed up all the shape. It didn't fit in the Proton, that's why I remembered it was wrong.

[Guest]

Also, CBBP's parts weigh a ton. BobCat's Proton can't effectively lift a TKS into orbit, it's so heavy.... Other than that, he does great work.

This is an issue with balancing CBBP's part. I pretty much halved all masses and decreased fuel loads so a TKS would have the same amount of monoprop as MIR has monoprop+LF+oxidizer. I could probably release the configs, if CBBP agrees.

EDIT: I found an interesting fact about the Quest. The tanks (containing oxygen and nitrogen for the life support system) sticking out of Quest's sides should be detachable, as seen in this pic: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/STS-104_Payload_Bay_view.jpg This would allow it to actually fit inside Buran's (or Shuttle's) payload bay.

Edited May 30, 2013 by Guest

[Netris]

This is an issue with balancing CBBP's part. I pretty much halved all masses and decreased fuel loads so a TKS would have the same amount of monoprop as MIR has monoprop+LF+oxidizer. I could probably release the configs, if CBBP agrees.

Yeah, it's awfully heavy. While I can easily make a 500x500 orbit with Mir and have a bit of juice to spare, I barely can achieve a 125x125 with Saluyt using the same launcher.