ramses Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Science and religion rarely go together ( I am quite aware that some are comfortable with both), so I'm curious to see with KSP being basically a science based game, and the forums having a science section, what percentage of players have religious beliefs. Personally I am not. Please keep it clean guys.If this belongs in Off topic, please move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malaugrym Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I typed a rant. It was long and inappropriate. I will give the TL;DR.I, personally, find religious beliefs hilarious. If one believes, prove it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Religion kinda, to me, signifies belief without need for a proof. I could write essays on my religious views (which tend to be a bit off-the-beaten path). But if you want to reconcile religion and science, I say look at all those subatomic particles: They work in some way, and form the building blocks of everything in our universe. But why do they work the way they do? Ultimately, I think a higher power (God, Buddha, Jehova, What have you) is responsible for the design of how the universe works, and then has let the universe take its course. Deism in a way, I guess.Thanks for an interesting post, OP. Especially on the internet, a hive of atheism, both militant and accepting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIRATEONTHERUN Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I think this could be a really cool survey as long as enough people see it and it doesn't turn into a flame war of, most likely considering we're on the internet (although not reddit), bashing religion, specifically Christianity. I personally am religious (Episcopalian (Christian sect (American version of the Church of England / Anglican Church))), and I would be very interested to see the community as a whole's answer to this.Thanks for bringing this up ramses!Cheers,PIRATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budgie Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 ...I personally am religious ..., and I would be very interested to see the community as a whole's answer to this.Thanks for bringing this up ramses!Glad to see Im not the only one. In my social circles I sometimes feel like a minority. What are the numbers like now in the US and elsewhere? Are there more avowed atheists or unsure people than there are religious yet? I feel the shift is likely to happen in Western countries soonish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamsko Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I thought these kinds of threads were banned for very good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROFLCopter64bit Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I thought these kinds of threads were banned for very good reason.Open mindful discussion isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That guy who builds stuff Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) I could write essays on my religious views (which tend to be a bit off-the-beaten path). But if you want to reconcile religion and science, I say look at all those subatomic particles: They work in some way, and form the building blocks of everything in our universe. But why do they work the way they do? Ultimately, I think a higher power (God, Buddha, Jehova, What have you) is responsible for the design of how the universe works, and then has let the universe take its course. Deism in a way, I guess.This. Given the way in which certain mathematical concepts pop up where we least expect them (i'm looking at you ̉ۢ) I strongly suspect that not only is there is an intellect involved in the formation of it's laws but that this intellect is a mathematician.It's also entirely possible that we are little more then an amazingly complex version of SimCity. Edited April 26, 2013 by That guy who builds stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyin_ruski Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Through science, one cannot say God doesn't exist because there is no scientific proof to support that claim. By the same token, there is no scientific proof to his/it/her existence. As someone who feels science has all the answers I would not be able to completely dismiss the idea of a god with out proof of no such being. I just feel that it is highly unlikely and us believing in a God or having the belief that a God will save us from our problems and eternal damnation is no different than ancient Vikings yelling at the Wolf god because it had swallowed the Sun (an event we now know as an eclipse, not a god swallowing the sun and then spitting it back out because we yelled at it).Sorry if i have offended anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROFLCopter64bit Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's also entirely possible that we are little more then an amazingly complex version of SimCity.We might (It could just be a matrix thing), but this is going into the depths on what reality actually is. Let's just say that cheeze is delicious and make that a proven fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K^2 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Anyone who thinks there is a contradiction between religion and science, clearly, understands neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That guy who builds stuff Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 We might (It could just be a matrix thing), but this is going into the depths on what reality actually is. Let's just say that cheeze is delicious and make that a proven fact.It's relevant to the question. In that situation Whatever's running the program is god, as far as we're concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROFLCopter64bit Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 It's relevant to the question. In that situation Whatever's running the program is god, as far as we're concerned.I didn't say it wasn't, all I was saying that this is getting even further into the unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossSquirrelz Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I find religion to be the wrong way to look at things. It was, and in some cases, still is the source of most of the world's problems. And it gets in the way of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaydeeDem Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I'm not religious simply because believing things without evidence is silly.Also, why is Yahweh the one true God? How do you know that a bearded man in the sky created the universe instead of a sarcastic shade of yellow? There is no proof for either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Religion was invented to explain things we couldn't explain. I see no need to have Religions in a time where we know the real answers trough real Science. And BossSquirrelz is right, it gets in the way of science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfedg Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) There is so much that science cannot explain (beyond theories) such as creation, laws of space, laws of time, laws of matter, complexity of (design) of plants, animals, ecosystems etc.EDIT: When I mention the "laws of", I am referring to the origin of these laws not the known parameters of the laws themselves. Edited April 26, 2013 by wolfedg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) There is so much that science cannot explain (beyond theories) such as creation, laws of space, laws of time, laws of matter, complexity of (design) of plants, animals, ecosystems etc.Plants and animals aren't "designed". They are shaped by the environment they live in. This is called Evolution. The use of Theories in sciences is different than Theories in every day live Edited April 26, 2013 by Canopus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfedg Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Plants and animals aren't "designed". They are shaped by the environment they live in. This is called Evolution.Despite what you may have been taught, evolution is still a theory. One with many holes that evolutionists like to ignore. Also that is why I put it in brackets as I expected some would not agree with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That guy who builds stuff Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Plants and animals aren't "designed". They are shaped by the environment they live in. This is called Evolution.And the environment is bound by chemical reactions, which is bound by the properties of subatomic particles, which are bound by the laws of physics, which come from... we have no idea.I don't think anyone here is arguing that a bearded man in the sky is welding zebras together in his garageI'm not religious simply because believing things without evidence is silly.Also, why is Yahweh the one true God? How do you know that a bearded man in the sky created the universe instead of a sarcastic shade of yellow? There is no proof for either.>all powerful being>bound to a single form Edited April 26, 2013 by That guy who builds stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Despite what you may have been taught, evolution is still a theory. One with many holes that evolutionists like to ignore. Also that is why I put it in brackets as I expected some would not agree with it.There is difference between Theories and Scientific Theories. I can't believe that some people still deny Evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flixxbeatz Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 WARNING: THREAD DERAILMENT IMMINENT! Everyone is only asked if they're religious or otherwise, and not how authentic science and religion is.Back on topic: Not really. I consider myself as a Christian, but not the one that only depends on prayer and not doing anything about it. Also I'm not the type who worships images and the type that considers church attendance as important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfedg Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 There is difference between Theories and Scientific Theories. I can't believe that some people still deny Evolution.I could point you to several sources of research that effectively disprove evolution, but I'd wager like most others you would dismiss it without even considering looking at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I could point you to several sources of research that effectively disprove evolution, but I'd wager like most others you would dismiss it without even considering looking at it.Yeah i'd like to see that sources:D but i'm going to stop now because i don't wan't this thread to be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossSquirrelz Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 This thread is gonna turn into a fight over evolution. I can tell.I'm an atheist/anti-theist, btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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