[0.23.5] Soviet Soyuz Rocketfamily v2.4 (13.May - Russian Tulip and more)

[Mulbin]

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/32817-0-20-Munstrosity-I-Russian-N1-LOK-LK-Lander%21

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Nice feature ... I've actually been thinking of including faults in my Munbug (Apollo)... I played around with a Munbug 13 wiith the central engine that cuts out early and a Service module that blows a few components off!

[Darth Lazarus]

blowing of something? why not going to try the N1 now ... awesoem looking stuff here.

edit:

dude ... this discomfort button is AWESOME !!!!!! XD

Edited May 30, 2013 by Darth Lazarus

[GusTurbo]

It was actually an interesting design challenge trying to figure out how to create the most spectacular failure. I settled on having Sepratrons overheat one of the large fuel tanks in the first stage while also having them destroy the central support that connects all the engines. That did the trick.

Nice feature ... I've actually been thinking of including faults in my Munbug (Apollo)... I played around with a Munbug 13 wiith the central engine that cuts out early and a Service module that blows a few components off!

That would be really awesome to play with.

Edited May 30, 2013 by GusTurbo

[sgt_flyer]

i'm trying to get a specific payload on Energia

(note, it has been tested as a glider (i added jetissonable jet engines for the test, connected to the rear RCS fins, dropping those engines just before takeoff (after initial acceleration) and taking some height with the rocket engines alone (which push it really nicely in atmosphere) and the thing, once engines are shut down, glides nicely (landing speed around 40m/s) - the junior docking ports are there because i intend to try to transform the bay doors into RCS controllable parts - the JR docking ports are placed so the bay doors will look like the real ones once opened (they are supposed to be open all the time once in orbit, they are used as radiators to cool down the systems)

Edited May 30, 2013 by sgt_flyer

[sgt_flyer]

booh guess Buran will prove wayyy to complicated to send to orbit (asymetric rocket + wing lift, ouch ) - guess it will stay in it's hangar, waiting for the hangar to collapse on it

[ethan829]

booh guess Buran will prove wayyy to complicated to send to orbit (asymetric rocket + wing lift, ouch ) - guess it will stay in it's hangar, waiting for the hangar to collapse on it

If you can believe, you can achieve:

[sgt_flyer]

nah - buran has no lift engines - only orbital manoeuver engines - all the carrying is done by the launcher itself. and adding that much RCS fuel would mess Energia (if not taking it apart right away )

[Mulbin]

I really should finish and post my shuttle. It gets into orbit but is a little unstable after reentry...

[Darth Lazarus]

dont forget guys, that Buran has JET Enbines for normal airtravel ! ^^

[sgt_flyer]

nah, the OK-GLI with the 4 jet engines was just for aerodynamics testings of the Buran. sole space flight was made without mounted jet engines and glided reentry (altough the buran still retain the capabilities of mounting 2 engines) - plus, KSP engines would be waaaay too big ^^

my aerodynamics test was made with 2 basic jet engines, which were only used to boost me to take off speed on the runway, then jetisonned just before takeoff (else, the engines would make me tumble ) the two LV-909 were enough to limit the loss of speed until 1000m to start the gliding tests ( and if used inflight, i think those would be enough to keep my version of buran aflight, due to the enormous winglift this thing has

[Darth Lazarus]

okay guys ... close to update the frontpage with version 1.3 for KSP 0.20.x. i would like to give credit to every one posting russian stock rockets/spaceships here, like N1, Angara BigSize Soyuz .... so ... do you guys mind, if i poste the links for

Mulbin's: LK's

sgt_flyers: Angara and Kliper

Gusturbos: N1 and Headless horseman

and teh oens i forgot ?

so we can collect more and more stock russian/soviet stuff here

i only need up to date links for the threads here in the spaceraftexchange.

Edited May 30, 2013 by Darth Lazarus

[GusTurbo]

Sounds good to me!

[Giggleplex777]

okay guys ... close to update the frontpage with version 1.3 for KSP 0.20.x. i would like to give credit to every one posting russian stock rockets/spaceships here, like N1, Angara BigSize Soyuz .... so ... do you guys mind, if i poste the links for

Mulbin's: LK's

sgt_flyers: Angara and Kliper

Gusturbos: N1 and Headless horseman

and teh oens i forgot ?

so we can collect more and more stock russian/soviet stuff here

i only need up to date links for the threads here in the spaceraftexchange.

I make protons.

[Darth Lazarus]

giggleplex? do you have a downloadlink for your protons? or even a showthread here ?

[Giggleplex777]

giggleplex? do you have a downloadlink for your protons? or even a showthread here ?

I used to, but it got deleted by the forum implosion.

[Mulbin]

Fine by me to put Muna / Dunas links!

[ethan829]

If you want to include my Soyuz, that's fine with me.

[Darth Lazarus]

update done ... i hate it, when firefox crashes clsoe before posting teh update nevertheless, upodate is dne and i includes ethans very nice looking soyuz spacecraft ^^

if something is wrong, not functional or something else: just say it and i will look at it. but now time for me to go to bed. good night everyone and enjoy Soyuz <3

[sgt_flyer]

here's a new entry in the Angara's family (i've let aside energia / buran for the moment )

the Angara A3 was one of the proposed launch vehicles for Kliper, so i tried (just needed to add some winglets to prevent kliper from making the rocket tumbling) :

the end result is down to 298 parts - but this time it can only bring Kliper to LKO, it can not act as a transfer stage like the onega's basically, the launch vehicle is an A3 with Briz-M replaced by Kliper. i'll add it to my Angara's post

at the end, this version is much more usable for LKO ferrying of kerbals (much less parts to handle ) Kliper's represent around 8% of the total rocket weight (254tons on the pad) at liftoff.

plus, the kliper and it's orbital module (which will be all that remains in orbit) is only 107 parts, so it can approach complex space stations

(on a plus side, i almost halved the weight and removed 1/3rd of the part count between each iteration of kliper's launcher - original onega 'monster' was 977 parts and 900 tons on the pad, Onega 'lite' was 617 parts and 533 tons on the pad)

Edited May 31, 2013 by sgt_flyer

[Darth Lazarus]

i need some opinions guys:

[GusTurbo]

I like that a lot. It's very attractive. The antennas really add something.

I'm currently working on a more realistic N1. The last one was a bit cartoonish.

[Darth Lazarus]

don't forget the "discomfort"-button

yeah, sometimes, the smal things add the right feeling. searching the web for good pictures of the Soyuz Spacecraft. so maybe i will add some more special antennas or other stuff. i have to admit, that ethans Soyuz is the best looking replica of a Soyuz so far, without the rocket. But not the best functional, 'cause crew can't switch between vehicles.

right now i try to find a good looking solution for the orbital module, without screwing the center of mass xD and i will keep my "Heatshild" design (together with the retrorockets).

i wonder if teh headless horseman can carry it. what is the payload capaticity of teh horseman gusturbo? cause i need around 15tons to get lunched into orbit.

[GusTurbo]

It's actually right around 15 tons. Possibly more with a more efficient ascent. I'm not exactly an expert at rocket flight, I'm better at building them.

[Darth Lazarus]

15 tons soudns realy fine. later this day i will test it ^.^

[sgt_flyer]

for the soyouz, yes, making spheres are damn hard with stock parts - and Darth Lazarus, using those small lander legs as soyouz's antennas is a great idea , that really look likes the real ones antennas

else, my onega 'lite' was made for the kliper, which weight around 20 tons (although the onega lite might be able to lift up to 30 tons - even more for the heavylift version - but this one a bit more unstable )

about my kliper, onega 'lite' is way overengineered managed to get Kliper with barely enough fuel to laythe with the onega lite modified soyouz block I (jetisonned during transfer ) (if it can go to laythe, it can reach the other atmospheric planets too (done duna aboard the original 'monster' onega ), i still got to go to eve, but i know the kliper's able to do it's glided landing on both duna and laythe already

Edited June 2, 2013 by sgt_flyer