Tada Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hehe, you make me lazy to build my own SSTOs... Instead I enjoy fruits of your labour The Super Sparrow with a single RAPIER engine.http://imgur.com/a/uFRnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 You're right, the Kethane turbines would be near useless on Eve. They would flame out at around 40-50km and be dead weight, and you haven't even made it through half the atmosphere. For Eve the best SSTO you can come up with a REALLY light SSTO, that takes only what is needed down and refuels down there, and that is it. It would be best to use a small high ISP rocket, to do this, and glide down to land. The smoother and more aerodynamic you can make it the better.Perhaps in FAR you can somehow do this, but with the current drag model, the required burn time at T/W 1.7 to get out of the atmosphere is just too much for the fuel tanks and engines we have. Nope, I maintain, not possible without a severely overpowered engine/fuel combo (like real-life numbers or slightly better). 10-11 km/s are 10-11km/s. Go take a look at the realistically-sized kerbin thread, that also takes about 10km/s. People there have some truly amazing monsters of boosters, usually heavy with mods and using FAR to diminish drag losses.Rune. The tyranny of the rocket equation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodo Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Perhaps in FAR you can somehow do this, but with the current drag model, the required burn time at T/W 1.7 to get out of the atmosphere is just too much for the fuel tanks and engines we have. Nope, I maintain, not possible without a severely overpowered engine/fuel combo (like real-life numbers or slightly better). 10-11 km/s are 10-11km/s. Go take a look at the realistically-sized kerbin thread, that also takes about 10km/s. People there have some truly amazing monsters of boosters, usually heavy with mods and using FAR to diminish drag losses.Rune. The tyranny of the rocket equation.I am not talking about using "ants" but the best ISP TWR boosters for this craft. So no nukes, or mainsails but something that provides a decent TWR and still maintains a good ISP, like the poodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) The SSI Shuttlecraft Type I Proton Class (Prototype) (capable of return trips to Minmus, and one way trips to Mun) Edited December 26, 2013 by inigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) The SSI Shuttlecraft Type B Proton Heavy Class (Prototype) (capable of round trips to the Mun, and one way trips to Duna) Edited December 26, 2013 by inigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) The SSI Shuttlecraft Type III Proton T Class (Prototype)The Proton T class is intended to transport more than one Kerbal to various destinations - most likely one ways to Minmus and possibly the Mun (not tested). The Proton T and the Proton Heavy variants prove the versatility of the base Proton model. In fact, exchange the Proton T's side mounted windows for docking ports or radial decouplers and you've got a Proton U utility spacecraft meant for carrying satellites into orbit, or construction parts. Edited December 26, 2013 by inigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exothermos Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) My Assegai Cargo SSTO is ready on my build page! It's a miracle what the new RAPIERS can do!Inigma, that Proton is really looking like a shuttlecraft. Sweet! Edited December 26, 2013 by Exothermos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) I am not talking about using "ants" but the best ISP TWR boosters for this craft. So no nukes, or mainsails but something that provides a decent TWR and still maintains a good ISP, like the poodle.The Poodle has rather low T/W, actually... But you know what? Try it, and see for yourself, you might even surprise me. Inigma, the Proton T looks awesome. Nice idea with the side cockpits!And lo and behold, I was also working on a rapier powered shuttle, Exo. The bird itself is ready, but I'm also working out a payload pack to set stations/interplanetary expeditions, so I'm flying a 6-flight part assembly test program. With MMU's to move the pieces around and everything!BTW, max payload is 10mt to 85km circular by weight, or one lab module + hitchhicker by volume. Would you guys like me to stop talking about it and go hurry and get it done for the release?Rune. Actually, I'm going to fly another mission right now, I think. Edited December 26, 2013 by Rune Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Inigma, the Proton T looks awesome. Nice idea with the side cockpits!If you ever want access and test SSI prototypes such as the Proton series, just shoot me a PM with your email and I'll give you dropbox access. I might even promote you to full SSI Enginer and give you your own space station with your Gladius docked (which you never gave us an updated version yet ) in our official save file.Exo, the same invite is yours too. Let me know if you want access. Edited December 26, 2013 by inigma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted December 28, 2013 Share Posted December 28, 2013 If you ever want access and test SSI prototypes such as the Proton series, just shoot me a PM with your email and I'll give you dropbox access. I might even promote you to full SSI Enginer and give you your own space station with your Gladius docked (which you never gave us an updated version yet ) in our official save file.Exo, the same invite is yours too. Let me know if you want access.Hey! That might be nice, I loaded the Gladius the other day and gave it a bit of a polish, and I also rebuilt the Bat'leth around the RAPIER's. So I might shoot you that PM with both files, and then perhaps self-test them for certification with those savefiles if no recording is necessary that way. In any case, a time of mayor thread redesign approaches, it's been long since I posted new stuff!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werwolf Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kola2DONO Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Just made my first SSTO today, i'm really proud of myself right now.I present to you... the Vena Mk1It have enough fuel to return from orbit, and if you refuel it, the SSTO can orbit mun or minmus, and if refueled again, it can return back to kerbin ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 And lo and behold, I was also working on a rapier powered shuttle, Exo. The bird itself is ready, but I'm also working out a payload pack to set stations/interplanetary expeditions, so I'm flying a 6-flight part assembly test program. With MMU's to move the pieces around and everything!BTW, max payload is 10mt to 85km circular by weight, or one lab module + hitchhicker by volume. Would you guys like me to stop talking about it and go hurry and get it done for the release?Done! I also did a nice series of missions to test all the kinks out. Look how gorgeous OTV-7 (Orbital test vehicle, seventh flight) looks as it leaves the finished DTV-1 (Duna Transfer Vehicle, first of its kind) ready for a decent name. Ares jumps to mind. It could have been done on six... if you had the subassemblies correctly designed unlike me ^^'No kerbals were harmed in this test program (unlike in previous ones, like the initial takeoff testing... ), no space debris was let on orbit (even with all those docking adaptors) and all hardware not going to Duna in the immediate future was returned to the KSP runway! Yay science!Rune. Go check its thread if you want to try it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvifNam Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 My SSTO refuelable modifiable and can land on multiple satellites (moons and planets) get back into orbit and can be sent back to earth Laythe going back into orbit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Cut Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 (edited) Tried a blended body design with two jumbo tanks as the main fuselage some days ago. Big, slow, and ineffective. It can reach orbit, but that's about it. I've scrapped trying to improve this design by now.Skylarker V6Part count: 600Specs:Engines: 12 Rapiers 12 Intakes 2 NERVAsFuel: 2x jumbo plus some mk1 fuselageRange: Maybe Mun orbit with proper flyingLink for those who want: http://www./view/3igwi2z9arq3251/Skylarker%20v6.craft Edited January 8, 2014 by Lazer Cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overfloater Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 (edited) Weltraumlabor:Has 1 Atomic engine, 4 turbojets, 64 concealed ram intakes, and plenty of concealed aerial control surfaces.Looks very cool, gets to the moon and back, other than that, completely useless. xDJavascript is disabled. View full albumAlso, Spaceplane Mk-III "Astroliner" is right now being tested for it's capabilities. Should be interplanetary.Has 4 turbojets, 64 intakes, one Atomic engine, RCS, and 8 passenger seats. Almost an OK glider....Edit: It came out to be a one way trip to laythe, after almost completely depleting the rocket fuel it becomes an amazing glider there! It made a successful landing by going up a hill, so it glides upwards as slow as it can get... Edited January 4, 2014 by Overfloater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguinhero Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Why isn't this thread stickied yet?squad, can you get on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Found out it's an SSTO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cinocal Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Draco5Warbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I hate every one of yall.Last two are amazingly beautiful. .crafts anyone?Yet here I am unable to make anything work. I have a nice stock plane with a RAPIER engine but it doesn't work. Single RAPIER doesn't have the thrust to get the speed I need. I can do one with B9 and SABREs so why the heck can I not do it stock, even with RAPIERs! Gah. I need to sit down with someone on Skype and have a 2-3 hour long SSTO building session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 I hate every one of yall.Last two are amazingly beautiful. .crafts anyone?Yet here I am unable to make anything work. I have a nice stock plane with a RAPIER engine but it doesn't work. Single RAPIER doesn't have the thrust to get the speed I need. I can do one with B9 and SABREs so why the heck can I not do it stock, even with RAPIERs! Gah. I need to sit down with someone on Skype and have a 2-3 hour long SSTO building session.We can help! Hit me up sometime. PM me what times you're available. Maybe we can also do it over KMP. I have a server up. I can walk you through building a Proton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 We can help! Hit me up sometime. PM me what times you're available. Maybe we can also do it over KMP. I have a server up. I can walk you through building a Proton.Oh my design skills for PLANES, are there. SSTOs still defy me. THe proton is nice and all, but I tend to build bigger, less clippy, partly more for aesthetics whilst preserving a form which facilitates function. I'll have to show you some of my stuff (I have a dozen failed attempts sitting saved across 4 different installs). Going to bed now. I'll hit you up sometime tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9t3ndo Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My newest creationThe X-307 long range 2 man shuttle.Without rapier but with nuke engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inigma Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 My newest creationThe X-307 long range 2 man shuttle.Without rapier but with nuke engine.http://i41.tinypic.com/fxv3vm.jpghttp://i43.tinypic.com/8y5k0k.jpghttp://i44.tinypic.com/25owc9t.jpghttp://i40.tinypic.com/11rq050.jpgnow das coolput a small docking port on it and submit it to SSI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 Why won't you work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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