Spiritwolf/Hanland Submissions

[m1xte]

Bayonet V02

Meets shock wobble torpedo.

Your launcher had an staging error.

Only 1/4 of mainsails lit up at start.

Please share your creations i enjoy exploding them.

[Spartwo]

Meets shock wobble torpedo.

Your launcher had an staging error.

Only 1/4 of mainsails lit up at start.

Please share your creations i enjoy exploding them.

Yea armor is pretty much useless on anything once you get beyond 60N.(apart from looking good)

DO THIS:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/27275-TOG-II-%28Heavy-Battle-Tank%29-By-Zokesia-Skunkworks%21?p=333203#post333203

Edited August 3, 2013 by Spartwo

[shepard1701]

Can someone please test something for me?

Specifically... can they test if this craft can launch, in it's single stage, into Laythe orbit from the surface?

[zekes]

Yea armor is pretty much useless on anything once you get beyond 60N.(apart from looking good)

DO THIS:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/27275-TOG-II-%28Heavy-Battle-Tank%29-By-Zokesia-Skunkworks%21?p=333203#post333203

Yup great challenge

Also yeah get faster than 100m/s in any projectile and you will tear something off a ship. 200 m/s will tear teh ship aparrt (or at least that's what ive found during combat to be true).

[Sliinty]

Yea armor is pretty much useless on anything once you get beyond 60N.(apart from looking good)

DO THIS:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/27275-TOG-II-%28Heavy-Battle-Tank%29-By-Zokesia-Skunkworks%21?p=333203#post333203

What do you mean 60N? like newtons? I should hope not

The phasing issue is caused by physics timestep: the parts might only be in the same spot for a very short period of time at high speeds, so it's possible for the collision to slide unnoticed between frames. Thats why retrograde orbit mines really would never work (asides from the whole you-will-never-ever-hit-anything problem), at those speeds the collision wont occur!

[Mygnol]

somewhere a have a small limpet mine thing, that attaches to docking ports and burns through things

I'll see what I can make Sounds fun.

EDIT:

But if you dock, you become part of the enemy ship, which means you'll effectively be using his own ship against him, which is not allowed in fights...

Edited August 3, 2013 by Mygnol

[zekes]

I just ripped my own heavy fighter into peices with this:

I love this weapon. At only 100 m/s it can do critical damage... only problem is it has short range.

[Spartwo]

What do you mean 60N? like newtons? I should hope not

The phasing issue is caused by physics timestep: the parts might only be in the same spot for a very short period of time at high speeds, so it's possible for the collision to slide unnoticed between frames. Thats why retrograde orbit mines really would never work (asides from the whole you-will-never-ever-hit-anything problem), at those speeds the collision wont occur!

I do mean Newtons that's what impact tolerence is measured in as far as I can tell.60 is enough to compress the squishey inside bits.

EDIT:sorry forgot the [].Mass times relative velocity does give a good conversion rate.

Edited August 3, 2013 by Spartwo

[Mygnol]

And my research is DONE

This little babby missile is capable of burning through SEVEN layers of 2x2 structural panels,using nothing but the power of sepratrons.

Just RCS-fly it right next to your target and hit space.

It's also stackable.

[daemonCaptrix]

Yup great challenge

Also yeah get faster than 100m/s in any projectile and you will tear something off a ship. 200 m/s will tear teh ship aparrt (or at least that's what ive found during combat to be true).

My weapons all hit faster than that, but they go straight through without doing any damage. Very disappointing to see a shotgun blast something, having the shell explode harmlessly on impact, but having the shot pass through without doing any damage.

[sanity]

I'll see what I can make Sounds fun.

EDIT:

But if you dock, you become part of the enemy ship, which means you'll effectively be using his own ship against him, which is not allowed in fights...

yea but its a mine, i couldnt figure any other way of doing a mine other than to fly it up, dock, and place its attack sequence into the enemies weapons launch stage, unless you just pilot a probe up and activate it?

[DrMiller357]

Grey Stone Presents - The Series 3 Fighter, Fighter Transport, and Munition Ship.

GSS3 Hornet

Part Count(Armed/Unarmed):68/29

Description: Uses staged torpedoes in 3 small docking ports, can load all three docking ports at once from a GSS3 Porcupine(Here it is in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gcSOHHmnPU ) Has AI so it can be unmanned, but comes with a view. The Grey Stone S3 is an unusual craft for Grey Stone to build but after substantial trial and error found that it was important to have people on site to keep the AI... maintained.

Craft File: GSS3 Hornet

GSS3 Swarm

Part Count: 255

Description: Carries 3 GSS3 Hornets(they carry 9 torpedoes each.) Can also be used to refuel manned ships carrying extra fuel and rcs.

Craft File: GSS3 Swarm

GSS3 Porcupine

Part Count: 331 fully loaded.

Description: Carries 54 Dumb stage launched torpedoes. 18 stacks of 3 torpedoes. Can also be used to refuel manned ships carrying extra fuel and rcs.

Craft File: GSS3 Porcupine

Company: Greystone

Bio: Grey Stone is a research and development company that focuses on AI and logistics. They generates funds by selling their most resent designs to the highest bidder often receiving questionably immoral payment, such as test subjects.

Allegiance: Grey Stone claims to take no side, but it all comes down to the highest bidder.

UPDATE:Grey Stone Has decided that as of recent events they will cease all business with Hanland and come to the aid of Spiritwolf and would like to apologize for any business that may have been done with Hanland in the past, all future research will be used to aid Spiritwolf.

Proof of Travel: Proof of Travel

Work In Progress:

GS Tortoise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ytJe7l8LgM&feature=youtu.be

Part Count: ~148

Description: Can hold 5 crew inside the tower(Hitchhiker and Cupola Module) There are also 8 seats in the cabin. It can get up to 20m/s on flat terrain an climb relatively steep hills if your careful. Balanced enough to get into space but still working on it. Perhaps it can be in Hanland hands until Spiritwolf gets a hold of it.

Edited August 5, 2013 by DrMiller357

[daemonCaptrix]

yea but its a mine, i couldnt figure any other way of doing a mine other than to fly it up, dock, and place its attack sequence into the enemies weapons launch stage, unless you just pilot a probe up and activate it?

My Fire Ant drones already do this without docking.

I'll see what I can make Sounds fun.

EDIT:

But if you dock, you become part of the enemy ship, which means you'll effectively be using his own ship against him, which is not allowed in fights...

Earlier someone asserted that putting large torpedoes on fighters isn't allowed. Where are people getting these rules?

[sanity]

no idea,

no-one as far as i know

the part count rule is self imposed but sensible,

the large weapons on fighters "rule", is just because by doing that they become "not" fighters by virtue of mass and therfore are moved down in the attack order

[Mygnol]

Well, if one were allowed to control the opponent's ship or any part of of it, he might as well just deorbit the entire ship and win.

[Sliinty]

My Fire Ant drones already do this without docking.

Earlier someone asserted that putting large torpedoes on fighters isn't allowed. Where are people getting these rules?

I would ask the same question. The rules of engagement as they stand are pretty stripped down, I've never heard of these rules.

[sanity]

Well, if one were allowed to control the opponent's ship or any part of of it, he might as well just deorbit the entire ship and win.

not quite the same but i see why you dont like it, i just couldnt think of any other way to simulate a mine

[daemonCaptrix]

Well, if one were allowed to control the opponent's ship or any part of of it, he might as well just deorbit the entire ship and win.

You don't have to dock to deorbit a ship. I should make a video for this.

[halo fan 117]

im trying to make a ship thts frigate size but with battle cruiser armorment also the vengance refit retro fit making it with just under 400 parts but its worth the part count also if you try to use a hades from over 159 meters it wont hit the torps hit each other

[zekes]

Im also working on a ship that can carry two 20 ton torpedoes and have 2000 m/s of delta v. Itll be a destroyer and be about 400-500 parts

[Sliinty]

Im also working on a ship that can carry two 20 ton torpedoes and have 2000 m/s of delta v. Itll be a destroyer and be about 400-500 parts

Did someone say

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[The Error]

Did someone say

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There is no such thing as "overkill". There is only "open fire" and "I need to reload".

-The Seventy Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercinaries

[daemonCaptrix]

Im also working on a ship that can carry two 20 ton torpedoes and have 2000 m/s of delta v. Itll be a destroyer and be about 400-500 parts

You seem to have no concept or respect for how ships are classified in real-life. xD

[Spartwo]

You seem to have no concept or respect for how ships are classified in real-life. xD

It might be a cruiser.

[Valley]

After submitting my Light Escort, "Callisto", to this thread I have gone over the thread in greater detail. It looks like weapons and weapons delivery systems of the small to medium ships are more powerful than the ability of the larger to capital ships to protect themselves with just passive armor. It also looks like, at least to me, that carriers, and the small mini-fighters dependent on them, are in real danger of being destroyed early in any engagements.

I think somebody has already pointed this out but -

Ships need more anti-fighter or anti-missile defenses of some kind. And in any engagement played in this series, it needs to work even if no 'player' is at the helm.