ASAS and small probes.

[magnemoe]

Look like small probes and landers got an nerfing in 0.211.

The new version of the asas module is 0.5 ton, the reaction wheel who replaced the SAS is 0.3 ton and the 2.5 meter asas is 0.2 ton for some reason.

The old asas was 0.07 ton, old sas was 0.1 and the 2.5 ton asas was 0.5 ton.

Look like they mixed up the weight between the 2.5 and 1.25 meter parts.

Problem is that without the controller an probe will not stop rotating, this make especially landings hard. I would actually like an miniature asas controller with no build in reaction wheels for small probes. And yes an larger version of the 2.5 meter part for heavy ships.

[Ession]

I'm pretty sure the probes (all command parts for that matter) now have SAS (not reaction wheels, just SAS) build in.

[DMagic]

All probes have both the SAS module and the reaction wheel module included. The 0.21.1 update post is worded a little ambiguously about this, but the part .cfg files and the in-game descriptions are clear. Everything has both functions; command pods, probe cores, and all of the reaction wheel/SAS parts in the control parts tab.

[magnemoe]

All probes have both the SAS module and the reaction wheel module included. The 0.21.1 update post is worded a little ambiguously about this, but the part .cfg files and the in-game descriptions are clear. Everything has both functions; command pods, probe cores, and all of the reaction wheel/SAS parts in the control parts tab.

Yes you are right, however the function is very weak, so weak it makes hard to land, luckily the rotpower on small probes are reduced so they don't rotate as crazy as they did in before.

Still the weight of the 1.25 and 2.5 meter asas look swapped, 0.2 ton sound more correct for 1.25 ton parts.

[Tw1]

Still the weight of the 1.25 and 2.5 meter asas look swapped, 0.2 ton sound more correct for 1.25 ton parts.

That is odd, yet they tested this for so long. It seems like a mammoth task making software.

I'd like them to be rearranged, who doesn't want a little extra Delta V?

If bugs keep popping up, maybe..... 0.21.2?

[TMS]

Just edit the cfg file.

I've got to the point recently where I consider this the only sensible approach.

[DMagic]

A rescale of the inline reaction wheel works really great, too. I think that both the 0.625 and 2.5m parts look pretty good.

[Aladran]

Dumb question, how do you rescale??

[DMagic]

There is a line in the part .cfg called:

rescaleFactor=1

You can just change that to 0.5 or 2 to get the different sizes. A few other tweaks are necessary to get all three parts working correctly though.

[Paulius_S]

Still the weight of the 1.25 and 2.5 meter asas look swapped, 0.2 ton sound more correct for 1.25 ton parts.

If I'm correct, 2,5m ASAS does not include reaction wheels, thus it is lighter than 1,25m one.

Edit: whoops, I'm sorry.. Just checked ingame. i think it was changed in 0.21.1 and it includes reaction wheels now... (hmm...)

Edited July 26, 2013 by Paulius_S

[ThePsuedoMonkey]

The larger ASAS is probably lighter to reflect that the torque from the reaction wheels depends on their radius, i.e. the larger radius lets you use less mass for the same torque.