[WIP] MSI's Infernal Robotics - Model Rework (v02 Pre-Release Beta)

[erbmur]

Is anybody having any issue using these parts with the new 0.19 release?

[Master Tao]

@erbmur:

Please see the How to Get Support (READ FIRST) sticky in the Support (modded installs) forum to learn what information to include in a support request. I can't even look for the problem unless I know what it is.

[ZodiusInfuser]

Is anybody having any issue using these parts with the new 0.19 release?

I'm afraid I haven't had chance to test with the new release, but from my experiments with the closed-beta they worked fine. Also, sirkut appeared to use one of them fine in his demo video.

[Guest]

Could you at least prune the list somewhat? With the in-VAB adjustment, there's a whole lot of parts in there that we now don't need.

[Master Tao]

Which parts do you have in mind? In the Rework parts, I only see three pairs (all Pivotrons) that are no longer unique.

[Guest]

Most of the parts have "90 degrees" and "straight" versions, including most foldatrons and pivotrons. I'm talking about those.

[ZodiusInfuser]

I think at most 5 parts can be removed. I would like people's opinions on this since IMO, having those variants there makes it easy to create things without relying on the new feature. If I was to remove them though, which versions should I pick to stay (e.g open or closed hinge)?

[sirkut]

Here's the problem. The meshes for the foldatrons weren't set to zero with regards to the rotations. If they aren't zero'd out they screw up bigtime. It's something I had to deal with. I used taniwha's .mu blender importer, reset all the rotations to zero (control-a, rotation) then exported that mu back to the directory, refreshed the game database it worked correctly. These will have to be done in order for them to be work.

[sirkut]

I fixed the 4 offending foldatron parts that Master Tao pointed out to me. If you want me to link the fix I can.

[ZodiusInfuser]

I fixed the 4 offending foldatron parts that Master Tao pointed out to me. If you want me to link the fix I can.

If you could, as I won't have access to unity for a week. Thanks

[sirkut]

this should fix them (it's just the 4 that were broken):

http://www./download/lsu0cfa0g0xijjw/Robotic_ProbeUnique_FixedParts.zip

[Camacha]

Extra toes is definitely an improvement!

What are you going to call it, Athlete's foot?

[sirkut]

What are you going to call it, Athlete's foot?

And now we have a winner! <rimshot>

[liquidhype]

None of the reworked parts show up in my game. I followed the installation instructions to the point, and still nothing. Do I need to remove the old parts first?

[Master Tao]

No, you do not have to remove the old parts first. In the MagicSmokeIndustries folder, where is your Rework folder?

[liquidhype]

No, you do not have to remove the old parts first. In the MagicSmokeIndustries folder, where is your Rework folder?

My Rework folder is located: KSP/Gamedata/MagicSmokeIndustries/Parts/Rework

[Master Tao]

That is the correct install location. Do the parts show up in a new Sandbox game? If you're playing Career or Science mode, they won't appear unless you unlock them individually in the R&D Center. They're also in a different (and later) tech node than the Legacy parts.

If that's not the problem, please follow the examples in the How to Get Support sticky in the Support (modded installs) forum.

[liquidhype]

That is the correct install location. Do the parts show up in a new Sandbox game? If you're playing Career or Science mode, they won't appear unless you unlock them individually in the R&D Center. They're also in a different (and later) tech node than the Legacy parts.

If that's not the problem, please follow the examples in the How to Get Support sticky in the Support (modded installs) forum.

The parts does not show up in either my current sandbox game or the new sandbox game I just created.

I am using Infernal Robotics 0.19a. Might there be a compability issue with the new IR?

[Master Tao]

No, plugin updates can't cause that kind of problem. Even if you don't install IR, just the Rework parts, the parts will still appear. They just won't work.

Try deleting and reinstalling the Rework parts, then see the Support sticky.

[erbmur]

I seem to be having an issue with these parts with the introduction of the 0.19 update to infernal robotics.

The parts that come packaged with infernal robotics works just fine, but whenever I try to attach one of the parts from this mod, things start tripping out. The part looks as though it has been attached (i.e. the attachement node from the part disappears) but it is still attached to the mouse and starts rotating in every direction at once around the mouse pointer whilst flickering.

When I select the part, the debug menu gets a line reading:

[Exception]: ArgumentException: An element with the same key already exists in the dictionary.

When I click to place the part, it starts tripping like explained above. When I click back in the catalogue to remove the part, the debug menu gets filled top to bottom with:

[Exception]: NullReferenceException

Any part I try to attach after this point does not attach and just refills the debug menu with the above error message.

The ouput_log is here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByopNDhXUXrFc1hfLThhY3ZtdU0/edit?usp=sharing

[BudgetHedgehog]

I seem to be having an issue with these parts with the introduction of the 0.19 update to infernal robotics

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The ouput_log is here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByopNDhXUXrFc1hfLThhY3ZtdU0/edit?usp=sharing

A relevant sections is

ArgumentException: An element with the same key already exists in the dictionary.
  at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2[System.String,TweakScale.ScaleExponents].Add (System.String key, TweakScale.ScaleExponents value) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at System.Linq.Enumerable.ToDictionary[ScaleExponents,String,ScaleExponents] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 keySelector, System.Func`2 elementSelector, IEqualityComparer`1 comparer) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at System.Linq.Enumerable.ToDictionary[ScaleExponents,String] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 keySelector, IEqualityComparer`1 comparer) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at System.Linq.Enumerable.ToDictionary[ScaleExponents,String] (IEnumerable`1 source, System.Func`2 keySelector) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at TweakScale.ScaleExponents.CreateExponentsForModule (.ConfigNode node, System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2 parent) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at TweakScale.ScaleConfig..ctor (.ConfigNode config) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at TweakScale.TweakScale.Setup () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at TweakScale.TweakScale.GetModuleCost () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at Part.GetModuleCosts () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at ShipConstruct.SaveShip () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at ShipConstruction.CreateBackup (.ShipConstruct ship) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at EditorLogic.SetBackup () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at EditorLogic.UpdatePartMode () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

  at EditorLogic.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 

[K3-Chris]

Anyone else have this with the Dromoman parts?

I applied the fixes correctly I think, shame they haven't been kept up to date, still seems the best bet for nice robotic arms.

[Master Tao]

@erbmur:

Looks like you have a copy of my old IR Rework patch installed as MagicSmokeIndustries/Parts/Rework/infernal robotics fix.cfg. Try removing every copy.

You also have at least couple outdated mods, definitely Module Manager and TweakScale. If removing the patch doesn't fix your issues, you'll need to update all of your mods and pare down the list to just a few so that someone can try to replicate the problem.

@K3|Chris:

Looks like the models have non-zero mesh rotations, like four of the Foldatrons. sirkut fixed the foldatrons by importing and de-rotating them. nothke's still around, too, so maybe you could get permission to release an update.

Edited September 12, 2014 by Master Tao
second response

[Darren9]

Anyone else have this with the Dromoman parts?

~snip~

I applied the fixes correctly I think, shame they haven't been kept up to date, still seems the best bet for nice robotic arms.

I think they need to be re-exported with rotations reset, the old docking washers and several foldatrons had the same issue, unfortunately it'll need someone with Blender/Unity. Sirkut did the others.

[K3-Chris]

Looks like the models have non-zero mesh rotations, like four of the Foldatrons. sirkut fixed the foldatrons by importing and de-rotating them. nothke's still around, too, so maybe you could get permission to release an update.

I'd prefer if he released them on his own, I'm busy as is.