Fengist Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 My best attempt. I'm sure if I burned off some fuel I'd squeeze out a lil more - non-FAR Speed 362.1m/sBTW, couple of mod parts you don't have listed and if you feel the need to disqualify, do so. But, they have no effect on performance (other than drag). Firespitter wing engine mounts (to make this monstrosity possible) and Multi-wheels landing gear because I can NEVER get B9 gear to go straight.And Jeb had a blast, he says thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosave Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 really like you design, is it possible to get the craft file?` @fengist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fengist Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 really like you design, is it possible to get the craft file?` @fengistUmmm crap. Sorry, I didn't even bother to save it. It's basically B9 stuff. The only real 'trick' to it was I had to add a fuselage in between the tail and the fuel tank (it's up front) in order to stretch it out a bit. With all those engines on the wing the center of mass was WAY back and I needed those two winglets up front to land it. That's also why those two vertical rudders have stock wings on top of them, to move the center of lift back so I could mount the winglets. The main wing is as far back as it would go. Other than that, which took a few tries to get right, it's pretty easy to build.Here's a shot of one of the previous versions with a wider but single wing section. A tad faster but no winglets up front. You may also notice some air brakes on it. It was impossible to land, it would nose up hard at low speeds and I was trying to fix that.Hope this gives you some ideas on where to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1sz Posted January 22, 2014 Author Share Posted January 22, 2014 leaderboard updated, added the new speeds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have not given up so far im up to 900M/s but i will hold of posting till i get to !1000M/s! and then it will go in the The MachingBird Challenge! as well as why the hell not and i have notsed that mechjeb douse not like going faster that 800M/s in atmos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autosave Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Redesigned Version Eins. 720 m/s. Still a VTOL but now unmanned. Working on an even faster non VTOL LUFTMEISTER Zwei Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1sz Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 very FAST indeed!, 720 makes for MACH 2,12, added to the leaderboard!, beauty plane btw, and nice fact that it's a vtol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWeegee4000 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I must say, I was very confused at first when I thought you wanted a plane that could go as fast as possible without hitting one meter per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Redesigned Version Eins. 720 m/s. Still a VTOL but now unmanned. Working on an even faster non VTOL LUFTMEISTER Zwei from what i have been playing around with led me to beleave that "autosave" is right with the Vtol idear as landing gear douse not like going MARK1 on take off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I just wanted to show how easy it was to cheat on this challengemostly because i was having trouble getting to the speeds that "1096bimu" manged to get to but i found that when i recreated the plain that it woud not go fast enough as in 300M/s slower so i wondered how coud of he done it and yes i tryed 0 fule and debug but still to slow so hyper edit editing of part files so i think making a video as a requirement would be best to prevent cheating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobgong Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) I just wanted to show how easy it was to cheat on this challengemostly because i was having trouble getting to the speeds that "1096bimu" manged to get to but i found that when i recreated the plain that it woud not go fast enough as in 300M/s slower so i wondered how coud of he done it and yes i tryed 0 fule and debug but still to slow so hyper edit editing of part files so i think making a video as a requirement would be best to prevent cheatinghttp://i.imgur.com/onzVj1S.jpghttp://youtu.be/aFjmKFOkTMQHe exploits bad challenges but he doesn't make fake screenshots for simple cheats, I'll try it myself.Edit:I don't know what you were doing with 300m/s but it does to to 800+ for me Edited January 25, 2014 by jacobgong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) He exploits bad challenges but he doesn't make fake screenshots for simple cheats, I'll try it myself.Edit:I don't know what you were doing with 300m/s but it does to to 800+ for meok feal free to prove that i called cheat with out cause but bear in minde that he managed to get to 847.9M/s with just 3 F119 Turbofan Engine and my recreation of hic craft only did 500M/s ishEdit:this is getting silly but i was going 500M/s with my recreation of his cradt Edited January 25, 2014 by fluffysnowcap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobgong Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) Post your recreationF119 is a smart choice because it has the most thrust under 1000m/s, he clearly knows that he's doing. Edited January 25, 2014 by jacobgong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 ok here is the craft filehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/tc6pe5c3hguz0t1/Fluffysnowcap%27s%20recreation%20of%201096bimu%201000M%20Challenges%20plain.craftMODS:B9Ferram Aerospace ResearchFire SpitterKSPXMechjeb (mostly for info)NearFuture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I may have jumped the gun and been a tit just found some "KSP Interstellar" junk in my KSP .23 Challenges copy the bits that douse jets and air so BOOO me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1sz Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 I must say, I was very confused at first when I thought you wanted a plane that could go as fast as possible without hitting one meter per second.yeah, that's one possible way to look at it, probably because my english sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1sz Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm a little confused with all this cheating stuff, I'm hoping everyone plays fair, but just in case, I'll go through it later when I have time!Maybe adding the save file is easier than uploading a video, and everyone could test it ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1sz Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 what is KSP Interstellar doing to the jet engines?, I though the only thing was heat and the need to use coolers at high altitude and speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 at high speed it slows it down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobgong Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) ok here is the craft filehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/tc6pe5c3hguz0t1/Fluffysnowcap%27s%20recreation%20of%201096bimu%201000M%20Challenges%20plain.craftMODS:B9Ferram Aerospace ResearchFire SpitterKSPXMechjeb (mostly for info)NearFutureI tried it, it isn't as fast because you have a few extra parts but it still does 800m/s+ I think it has to do with the version of FAR, go download the latest version. Edited January 25, 2014 by jacobgong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 ok after a lot of cleaning and reinstalling of mods i found that i am very bad at keeping the mods clean (i keep updating with out scrapping old but i have now so probly will do better now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffysnowcap Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I tried it, it isn't as fast because you have a few extra parts but it still does 800m/s+ I think it has to do with the version of FAR, go download the latest version.http://i.imgur.com/Y28g1hy.jpgWhat FAR vershion are you running as i only get 600M/s and it Spins out at a Pin drop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pds314 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I have some B9 SABRE "planes" that can reach 1.1 km/s under 1000 meters. Maybe I could use 4 stock jets to make a "pplans (missile) that performs similarly well. Problem is what intake to use since a single pair of radials or a circus intake generate way too much drag and give more are than necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacobgong Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 (edited) What FAR vershion are you running as i only get 600M/s and it Spins out at a Pin dropWith one vertical stabilizer it is pretty easy to flip out on the horizontal axis. For pitch you have to adjust your control surfaces and engine gimbal on the F119 to not pitch so hard. If you have all 3 on gimbal and default 20 degree deflection yes it will flip out simply because the angle of attack is too high. otherwise it is pretty stable with aerodynamic centre quite far behind centre of mass as it should be.With the high pitch high thrust F119 engines it's quite easy to recover from stalls, although the hyper sensitive pitch and small wings makes landing difficult.http://kerbalspaceprogram.com/ferram-aerospace-research/ Edited January 26, 2014 by jacobgong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihtoit Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 hm... Luvodicus Super Atomic (320kN) and short stock tank, start mass: 8.something tons, TWR of something like 3.8-4.34 (by the time I hit orbit). I can't get the thing to stay below 1000m, the second I go supersonic the thing just wants to pitch up until it's ballistic. Bill enjoys the ride, though.'Course, that's in .18, don't know what a similar build'd do in .22 (I don't have .23, waiting for the plugins to catch up).Or does it have to be jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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