Spaceplane on eve

[technion]

Hey guys,

I just got my first space plane on Eve. I'm finding:

If I tilt the nose down by more than about 5 degrees, it loses control

With the engines cut, it nearly floats

The obvious answer is "less lift" but I just got through adding lift to get out of Kerbin. The first descent took me one hour, forty minutes, and if I physics warp at all there's an explosion. Then I reached the ground and exploded.

1. Is there a faster way to land this spaceplane?

2. Is there a mod or something that will allow "quicksave in atmosphere"? I wouldn't be upset if I could just quicksave 2km above the ground and get the landing right.

[Voculus]

We need a screenshot of your plane to investigate your issues. Even better, would be a screenshot in the hangar with the centers of mass, lift, and thrust enabled.

[KerbMav]

A picture of the craft is always helpful to be helpful.

Also, do you use FAR? I guess no.

Edit: Yes, what Ninja said. ;P

And no, there seems to be no mod to enable saving while flying in an atmosphere.

[numerobis]

You can add extra mass to plummet through the upper reaches; jettison it as you land.

Or, you can fly inverted. Then lift will help you fall. Less dramatically, fly on your side.

[Sabreur]

Oh jeez, this brings back memories. I had a delta-winged probe that took several minutes to go from 100 meters to 0. The problem with Eve (well, one of many problems with Eve) is that the atmosphere has the consistency of soup, and the default aerodynamics model means that even a tiny amount of lift will keep a plane aloft for ridiculous amounts of time.

Honestly, I think your best bet is to stick a parachute on it so that it falls wheels-first, cut the engines, and go have a sandwich while it drifts down.

[technion]

Thanks for the help guys. The difficult thing is that nothing's "broken", the plane works, and is perfect at kerbin. It's just sloooooow to land on Eve. Pictures below.

You can add extra mass to plummet through the upper reaches

It's seriously taken weeks to get something capable of making it from Kerbin to Eve. I'd hate to imagine adding mass to it.

[technion]

After crashing down on the dark side of Eve, I've come to the conclusion that the above spaceplane is, with no effort, an infiniglider. I took it a third of the way around the planet without ever accelerating.