delicate controls

[kiwiak]

Yes, i pressed caps lock.

I have probem with controlling lightest crafts, torque even in lightest probes is too strong, rcs too.

So, i often tip over during landing, with slim crafts.

[sal_vager]

Well, if you are already using fine controls (capslock) then there must be something else at work here, we'd need to see some of your craft.

I's suggest you keep SAS on though, as it will help with stability even when using fine control, I also suggest wider landing craft, you can fit landing legs onto girder segments or cubic struts to make your crafts landing area larger

[kiwiak]

Well, if you are already using fine controls (capslock) then there must be something else at work here, we'd need to see some of your craft.

I's suggest you keep SAS on though, as it will help with stability even when using fine control, I also suggest wider landing craft, you can fit landing legs onto girder segments or cubic struts to make your crafts landing area larger

Well, i usually build wide. Buts thats somewhat excuse for lack of landing skills, i see these slim landers all the time and i wanted to build like this today, it weighted about 10 t as far as i remember.. I dont think thats a point in posting screens, i just wanted to know if its some way to decrese reaction wheel power.

[Tank Buddy]

I use a joystick and it allows for unimaginably fine tuning to throttle and rotation.

Also, I almost never put SAS on my landers because:

A. Too much torque adds some issues

B. Adds unnecessary mass.

I don't now how the torque from probes could possibly be a problem. You must be doing something else in a weird way.

Edited January 25, 2014 by Tank Buddy

[sal_vager]

How many are you using?

Pods have their own small ones, you could use just that or a pair of pods or stack of probes instead of the reaction wheel parts, for most small craft you don't need much more than what the pod or probe already has.

[DeMatt]

I's suggest you keep SAS on though, as it will help with stability even when using fine control, I also suggest wider landing craft, you can fit landing legs onto girder segments or cubic struts to make your crafts landing area larger

Also, I almost never put SAS on my landers because:

A. Too much torque adds some issues

B. Adds unnecessary mass.

sal_vager is referring to activating the SAS system with the T key, not adding additional reaction wheels.

Well, i usually build wide. Buts thats somewhat excuse for lack of landing skills, i see these slim landers all the time and i wanted to build like this today, it weighted about 10 t as far as i remember.. I dont think thats a point in posting screens, i just wanted to know if its some way to decrese reaction wheel power.

I'm'a gonna agree with sal_vager: turn on SAS by pressing the T key, and leave it on. Then your landers will automatically try to stay in the orientation you point them in. Try to land on a perfectly flat surface, too; landers that touch down on slopes are more likely to topple.

[kiwiak]

Well you are probably right with flying with sas.

Or i coudl use some light version of rcs thrusters that provide little thrust compared to stock, aeis had these.

[DeMatt]

Well you are probably right with flying with sas.

Or i coudl use some light version of rcs thrusters that provide little thrust compared to stock, aeis had these.

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A small lander shouldn't need RCS for rotation at all. Turn it off, just use the command pod/probe core's torque. And turn on SAS so it'll stop spinning automatically.