ayana Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 I just want to say that in my experience, lifting off in the KSO Super 25 with the FAR config you supplied seems to make it want to pull to one side. It doesn't fly straight, it has an affinity to pull to one side. Also, when you get to the point where you're nearing 45 degrees, the craft also likes to start rolling and pitch down even lower than 45 degrees destabilizing and causing booster separation to destroy the EFT. I don't know if you've found that in your testing.The problem is the FAR trying to tell what is or isn't shielded by the cargo bay. It isn't consistent, sometimes it works fine and other times one or both wings are shielded and the shuttle starts spinning.Another thing it might be: you have to set up the control surfaces correctly. With the default assignments it's very easy to lose control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaput Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 On the super 25 should the pitch trim be on or off when only using the OMS engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan-S63 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 On the super 25 should the pitch trim be on or off when only using the OMS engines?When you separate from the launch stack, you want to turn off all gimbals because the center of thrust is the shuttle itself. When using OMS, turn off the gimbal because otherwise you'll apply a slight torque and start spinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert VDS Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 Yeah but neither of those logos looked right on the steering wheel at such low resolution. While the BMW symbol just popped. So in the Kerbal world, there's Kerbin Motor Works AG and they make trucks and busses also.It seems out of place though, like it's a model from a Need for Speed game. All your other models and textures fit so well together and then there that logo on the steering wheel.How about making it simpler than that, like a logo resembling a rocket(it doesn't have to be like the rocket in KSP logo). The Kerbals are after all species focused on space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnistNAMEERF Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) It seems out of place though, like it's a model from a Need for Speed game. All your other models and textures fit so well together and then there that logo on the steering wheel.How about making it simpler than that, like a logo resembling a rocket(it doesn't have to be like the rocket in KSP logo). The Kerbals are after all species focused on space.How much simpler than a circle can you get? It's just a logo. All the stock pods come with little more than a navball. The shuttle IVAs look decades ahead of the stock ones but that's what makes the shuttle IVAs so amazing. There are no real vehicles in KSP outside of open-cabbed rovers. Certainly nothing with a steering wheel. How can it look out of place when there's no IVA from a stock truck to compare it too? It might just be that it's obviously a BMW logo that it looks out of place for you, so maybe if the colors were changed (like white and green) or were inverted (black and yellow) it might not seem so BMW. Although looking at BMW's site I can see that this one is a mirrored image of BMW's so the difference is very subtle. Edited June 28, 2014 by qnistNAMEERF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazari1382 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 When you separate from the launch stack, you want to turn off all gimbals because the center of thrust is the shuttle itself. When using OMS, turn off the gimbal because otherwise you'll apply a slight torque and start spinning.OMS need to be gimbaled. The only time they don't is on the original KSO where you could have 3 of them aligned with the CoM. When you have two high on the rear of the shuttle, they must be angled to align with the shuttle's CoM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK3424 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 OMS need to be gimbaled. The only time they don't is on the original KSO where you could have 3 of them aligned with the CoM. When you have two high on the rear of the shuttle, they must be angled to align with the shuttle's CoM.I wish there's a way that the navball heading is the line trough the center of thrust and the center of mass.Instead of just the vehicle orientatien from docking ports.So that when i a maneuver burn, the maneuver is performed correctly, not of centered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan-S63 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 OMS need to be gimbaled. The only time they don't is on the original KSO where you could have 3 of them aligned with the CoM. When you have two high on the rear of the shuttle, they must be angled to align with the shuttle's CoM.That's what it would appear to me instinctively because the thrust isn't centered on the CoM. But from my testing with the Super 25, more rotation starts from firing the OMS in the gimabled position. I don't understand why though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tantalus792 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can i find out if you can run this without ATM? I LOVE this mod but I cant stand the textures it reduces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Can i find out if you can run this without ATM? I LOVE this mod but I cant stand the textures it reduces.If this is the only mod your are running, you could probably not use ATM, but as stated in the OP ATM is required for this mod if you have any other mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK3424 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 If this is the only mod your are running, you could probably not use ATM, but as stated in the OP ATM is required for this mod if you have any other mods.Or.... you can apply the 4gb ram patch, so that ksp is able to use more than just +- 2.5 GB of RAM:http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Pulled an all-nighter. But I'll check it when I get back.http://i.imgur.com/xWwTFCi.jpghttp://imgur.com/a/NqMXAWow. I don't care if you intend that for the ground or not.Ima putting that sucker into SPACE. Space bus! LKO to Mun Base crew rotation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidersVise Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Anyhow here's a trucks update:http://i.imgur.com/q6Rnekw.jpgWatch out for bridges and hop-ons; you're gonna get some hop-ons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnistNAMEERF Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Wow. I don't care if you intend that for the ground or not.Ima putting that sucker into SPACE. Space bus! LKO to Mun Base crew rotation!I agree. Magic school bus all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan-S63 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Or.... you can apply the 4gb ram patch, so that ksp is able to use more than just +- 2.5 GB of RAM:http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.phpIt already should use more than 2.5GB of RAM. I've had my game consume about 3.5GB before crashing. That being said, there's an official Win64 build coming in 0.24 and an unofficial hack for Win64 support (although it's quite buggy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Or.... you can apply the 4gb ram patch, so that ksp is able to use more than just +- 2.5 GB of RAM:http://www.ntcore.com/4gb_patch.phpThat wont help. KSP is already capable of using more than 2.5 GB of RAM. I use that much just sitting in the VAB before a mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted June 29, 2014 Author Share Posted June 29, 2014 On the super 25 should the pitch trim be on or off when only using the OMS engines?ON. OMS Only = Pitch Trim 14. Regardless of what anyone says. Unless you're using some strange configuration or FAR or something that changes behavior ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassa Farlander Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Is there a adapter for going from the octagon station parts shape to the standard 2.5m? Ive looked through the parts and didnt see one, please correct me if Im wrong. If its not in there I would love to have one somehow! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Is there a adapter for going from the octagon station parts shape to the standard 2.5m? Ive looked through the parts and didnt see one, please correct me if Im wrong. If its not in there I would love to have one somehow! :DWhat exactly are you looking for? Im not sure what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassa Farlander Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 An adapter that goes from the size and shape of the octagon of the station parts to the size and shape of the standard 2.5m rocket fuselages. Like the Rockomax Brand Adapter 01 & 02 but for the octagon for the station parts on one side, and a 2.5m circle on the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnistNAMEERF Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Is there a adapter for going from the octagon station parts shape to the standard 2.5m? Ive looked through the parts and didnt see one, please correct me if Im wrong. If its not in there I would love to have one somehow! :DThere is not. You can ask helldiver, but I believe the design intent of the station parts was that they would fit in the KSO Jr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rassa Farlander Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 But now we have the super 25 Muhahahahaha lol Sorry got a little out of hand. Well hopefully he will read these last few posts and let us know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 But now we have the super 25 Muhahahahaha lol Sorry got a little out of hand. Well hopefully he will read these last few posts and let us know Not going to happen.The EWBCL was designed so you could launch other 2.5m parts (like the stock station components or FusTek) with the KSO system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan-S63 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Okay, so is there a solution to the exploding EFT when you separate the boosters?I do a test separation on the launchpad and nothing bad happens, but when I do it mid-flight, the EFT always blows up and it's frustrating because the KSO doesn't have enough fuel in its internal tank to even circularize enough to survive a reentry with DRE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avalon304 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Okay, so is there a solution to the exploding EFT when you separate the boosters?I do a test separation on the launchpad and nothing bad happens, but when I do it mid-flight, the EFT always blows up and it's frustrating because the KSO doesn't have enough fuel in its internal tank to even circularize enough to survive a reentry with DRE.What mods are you using, because the stock EWBCL Block 4 doesnt explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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