[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][{Proton Revamp]

Reichtangle · September 3, 2014

And beale has made the 1000th post on this thread! Congratulations! Will the ATV have an IVA enterable by going through the ports?

Beale · September 3, 2014

And beale has made the 1000th post on this thread! Congratulations! Will the ATV have an IVA enterable by going through the ports?

Probably not.

Edit: Although a sto-away Kerbal concept could be fun.

ATV Engine

Vac ISP: 295

Thrust: 45KN

Runs on MonoPropellant

Edited September 3, 2014 by Beale

MK3424 · September 3, 2014

WOW! the ATV looks very cool!

Bomoo · September 3, 2014

Hm! Nice work on that ATV, dude. Would it be possible to change the engine exhaust to match the stock monoprop thrusters, though? I guess the ant engine uses that exhaust also.

Beale · September 3, 2014

Hm! Nice work on that ATV, dude. Would it be possible to change the engine exhaust to match the stock monoprop thrusters, though? I guess the ant engine uses that exhaust also.

Maybe someone can help me with this?

I'm using ModuleEnginesFX, so I seem to be only able to reference effects in Squad/FX (where there is no RCS thruster effect).

So for now I'm stuck with the orange flames, sorry

Lets ruin Mir with a huge supply vehicle

Edited September 3, 2014 by Beale

drtedastro · September 4, 2014

Way toooooooo kool......

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

Maybe someone can help me with this?
I'm using ModuleEnginesFX, so I seem to be only able to reference effects in Squad/FX (where there is no RCS thruster effect).
So for now I'm stuck with the orange flames, sorry

In the FX definition under PREFAB_PARTICLE put the prefabName as fx_gasJet_tiny to get the RCS thruster FX. If the effect plays facing the wrong way, you'll need to add a transform with another name to your thrustTransforms in Unity in the place you want the FX to spawn, but rotated so it'll come out the right way. Then call the new transforms in transformName. I know fx_smokeTrail_light does this (it comes out of Y+ on the transform rather than Z+), not sure about any others.

Edited September 4, 2014 by hoojiwana

Danny88 · September 4, 2014

Look at the size of that thing!

Chadley123 · September 4, 2014

How many KAS units of space does it hold?

ZodiaK · September 4, 2014

that's really good!

Beale · September 4, 2014

How many KAS units of space does it hold?

300

In the FX definition under PREFAB_PARTICLE put the prefabName as fx_gasJet_tiny to get the RCS thruster FX. If the effect plays facing the wrong way, you'll need to add a transform with another name to your thrustTransforms in Unity in the place you want the FX to spawn, but rotated so it'll come out the right way. Then call the new transforms in transformName. I know fx_smokeTrail_light does this (it comes out of Y+ on the transform rather than Z+), not sure about any others.

Thanks!

It works, partially.

I do wonder why only one jet is showing though, I created 4 separate transforms.

  running_closed
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_rocket_spurts
      volume = 0.0 0.0
      volume = 3.0 3.0
      pitch = 0.0 0.2
      pitch = 1.0 1.0
      loop = true
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform1
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform2
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform3
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform4
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
  }

Cosmic_Farmer · September 4, 2014

Any chance of a non-Google download location, please?

Darth Lazarus · September 4, 2014

Salyut 7 reporting for duty:

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johnwayne1930 · September 4, 2014

It works, partially.
http://puu.sh/bkU4A/d0712097fe.jpg

This is going to be great!

When the ATV is finished, are you doing some alternate textures for it?

Maybe... something like this? :blush:

I'm the opposite.. I'm completely comfortable around Photoshop but get me in front of a 3D modeling tool and I'm like grandmom trying to install Linux.
I even go completely out of my way to make the textures look un-manipulated like they came right from the developer themselves.. I'm OCD about textures..
http://i.imgur.com/GDnZaBr.jpg

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

I do wonder why only one jet is showing though, I created 4 separate transforms.

Try four transforms all named monoTransform, then call that one name later.

Beale · September 4, 2014

Try four transforms all named monoTransform, then call that one name later.

Hi!

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately that hasn't done the trick

Not sure what to try now, giving each one an offset?

  running_closed
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_rocket_spurts
      volume = 0.0 0.0
      volume = 3.0 3.0
      pitch = 0.0 0.2
      pitch = 1.0 1.0
      loop = true
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
  }

This is going to be great!
When the ATV is finished, are you doing some alternate textures for it?
Maybe... something like this?

Possibly, Goldfoil alternate for the Cygnus also.

Any chance of a non-Google download location, please?

Looking into Dropbox for the next release

Salyut 7 reporting for duty:
http://imgur.com/a/IPiTC

Real nice engine assembly on the Salyut :cool:

Edited September 4, 2014 by Beale

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

Hi!
Thanks for the help. Unfortunately that hasn't done the trick
Not sure what to try now, giving each one an offset?

Try setting it up with one copy of PREFAB_PARTICLE in the FX definition, and then call that in your ModuleEngineFX. You don't need one PREFAB_PARTICLE for each nozzle, it'll use the one definition that has the right name multiple times.

You only need to use a monoTransform if the FX_gasJet_tiny comes out at the wrong angle.

Beale · September 4, 2014

Try setting it up with one copy of PREFAB_PARTICLE in the FX definition, and then call that in your ModuleEngineFX. You don't need one PREFAB_PARTICLE for each nozzle, it'll use the one definition that has the right name multiple times.
You only need to use a monoTransform if the FX_gasJet_tiny comes out at the wrong angle.

Yep, the FX_gasJet_tiny fires along Y+

Sorry to ask, but where do I call the FX in the moduleEnginesFX? I've tried looking at the R.A.P.I.E.R. but it's set up the same as mine.

EFFECTS
{
  running_closed
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_rocket_spurts
      volume = 0.0 0.0
      volume = 3.0 3.0
      pitch = 0.0 0.2
      pitch = 1.0 1.0
      loop = true
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
  }
  engage
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_vent_soft
      volume = 1.0
      pitch = 2.0
      loop = false
    }
  }
  flameout
  {
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_exhaustSparks_flameout_2
      transformName = thrustTransform
      oneShot = true
    }
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_explosion_low
      volume = 1.0
      pitch = 2.0
      loop = false
    }
  }
}

mass = 0.55

dragModelType  = default
maximum_drag   = 0.20
minimum_drag   = 0.15
angularDrag    = 2
crashTolerance = 10
maxTemp        = 3400

stagingIcon = LIQUID_ENGINE

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleEnginesFX
	engineID = ClosedCycle
	runningEffectName = running_closed

	thrustVectorTransformName = thrustTransform
	exhaustDamage = True
	ignitionThreshold = 0.1
	minThrust = 0
	maxThrust = 50
	heatProduction = 200
	fxOffset = 0, 0, 0.0
	PROPELLANT
	{
	name = MonoPropellant
        ratio = 0.9
	}

	atmosphereCurve
 	{
   	 key = 0 295
  	 key = 1 220
 	}

}

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

Yep, the FX_gasJet_tiny fires along Y+

Sorry to ask, but where do I call the FX in the moduleEnginesFX? I've tried looking at the R.A.P.I.E.R. but it's set up the same as mine.

EFFECTS
{
  running_closed
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_rocket_spurts
      volume = 0.0 0.0
      volume = 3.0 3.0
      pitch = 0.0 0.2
      pitch = 1.0 1.0
      loop = true
    }
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_gasJet_tiny
      transformName = monoTransform
      emission = 0.0 0.0
      emission = 0.05 0.0
      emission = 0.075 0.25
      emission = 1.0 1.25
      speed = 0.0 0.25
      speed = 1.0 1.0
      localOffset = 0, 0, 0
    }
  }
  engage
  {
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_vent_soft
      volume = 1.0
      pitch = 2.0
      loop = false
    }
  }
  flameout
  {
    PREFAB_PARTICLE
    {
      prefabName = fx_exhaustSparks_flameout_2
      transformName = thrustTransform
      oneShot = true
    }
    AUDIO
    {
      channel = Ship
      clip = sound_explosion_low
      volume = 1.0
      pitch = 2.0
      loop = false
    }
  }
}

mass = 0.55

dragModelType  = default
maximum_drag   = 0.20
minimum_drag   = 0.15
angularDrag    = 2
crashTolerance = 10
maxTemp        = 3400

stagingIcon = LIQUID_ENGINE

MODULE
{
	name = ModuleEnginesFX
	engineID = ClosedCycle
	runningEffectName = running_closed

	thrustVectorTransformName = thrustTransform
	exhaustDamage = True
	ignitionThreshold = 0.1
	minThrust = 0
	maxThrust = 50
	heatProduction = 200
	fxOffset = 0, 0, 0.0
	PROPELLANT
	{
	name = MonoPropellant
        ratio = 0.9
	}

	atmosphereCurve
 	{
   	 key = 0 295
  	 key = 1 220
 	}

}

Oh right you don't need to change that. Ignore the comment then! Make sure your 4 monoTransforms in Unity have the same name and are all placed correctly.

EDIT: It's the running_closed bit that's the name, called in runningEffectName. The RAPIER has running_closed because that's "closed cycle" mode where it uses stored oxidiser.

Beale · September 4, 2014

Oh right you don't need to change that. Ignore the comment then! Make sure your 4 monoTransforms in Unity have the same name and are all placed correctly.
EDIT: It's the running_closed bit that's the name, called in runningEffectName. The RAPIER has running_closed because that's "closed cycle" mode where it uses stored oxidiser.

Hmm, still not working. Here you can see the unity setup, each transform is in the right position.

About the running_closed bit, do you mean that is causing the issue? Sorry my English is still not all that good sometimes :sealed:

Thanks for all your help!

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

Hmm, still not working. Here you can see the unity setup, each transform is in the right position.
About the running_closed bit, do you mean that is causing the issue? Sorry my English is still not all that good sometimes
Thanks for all your help!

Everything you've done should make it work, so I went and tried the same set up on an engine cluster myself (edited Cutter since that has 3 transforms) and it looks like PREFAB_PARTICLE doesn't actually work with multiple transforms from what I can tell. You could make your own particle FX if you like, the Hotrockets thread first post has a great tutorial.

Beale · September 4, 2014

Everything you've done should make it work, so I went and tried the same set up on an engine cluster myself (edited Cutter since that has 3 transforms) and it looks like PREFAB_PARTICLE doesn't actually work with multiple transforms from what I can tell. You could make your own particle FX if you like, the Hotrockets thread first post has a great tutorial.

Ah, I see.

I guess some custom FX will be needed then (Also the electric engine could use some)

Thanks for all your help! Unfortunately it is not letting me give reputation.

hoojiwana · September 4, 2014

Thanks for all your help!

No problem. It's a shame you can't make what you want because of a KSP bug, I know that feeling all too well.

tygoo7 · September 4, 2014

-snip-

Can I ask why Kerbin is yellow?

Danny88 · September 4, 2014

Massive ammonia leak?

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