Fish Boy Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 But this is KSP Ask not what your modders can build for you, but what you can build to blow the other guys on the forum away with what you have Besides that bomb bay would need to be completely rebuilt to hold a different load out of bombs. The skewer would stay the same but the layout of rails around it would change. So its hard to make one part that can do so many different jobs. It's some times easier to use the many parts you already have access to, to make something new. Just ask lots of questions and pick up what you can. You look new to the forum so just be aware most anyone on here is happy to help you learn more about the game and just how far you can push things.I was inspired by your bomb bay. I spent an hour learning how Infernal Robotics works and I'm working on a rotating missile bay. Allows for smaller wings (less hardpoints) and is more aerodynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8jester Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 I was inspired by your bomb bay. I spent an hour learning how Infernal Robotics works and I'm working on a rotating missile bay. Allows for smaller wings (less hardpoints) and is more aerodynamic.Pictures, I demand Pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Boy Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Pictures, I demand Pictures I can probably give you a video within a day or two. I need to design a decent looking plane to go with the bay, which is painful because I have killer OCD and I hate the Mark 2 cockpit and the Mark 2 to 1.25 meter adapters. Edited July 17, 2015 by Fish Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdusacconBR Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 whats the range of the USAF airborne laser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8jester Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) whats the range of the USAF airborne laser? 5000 Km = A really long way- - - Updated - - -I can probably give you a video within a day or two. I need to design a decent looking plane to go with the bay, which is painful because I have killer OCD and I hate the Mark 2 cockpit and the Mark 2 to 1.25 meter adapters.http://i.imgur.com/an9JVNI.jpgHey you could almost fit two skewers in there. Looks good, also looks like you figured out the back support as well, it's not hanging down at all. Nice! Did you figure out how to set it to stop at intervals? You need to start with the first position set at -180 and the last is 180 and anything in between. Thats how I setup my B2 so I could just press an action group to advance the rotor.And I hope I'm not being a yutz here but. Another idea for a bomb bay at 1:30 Edited July 17, 2015 by V8jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BahamutoD Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 I've been working hard on the targeting pod display.http://gfycat.com/IncredibleBigheartedFantail (cut and sped up to fit the 15sec gfy limit)Some thing's I've added so far:- Resizeable window- "Slave Turret" button - makes your active turrets point at the target.- Target position HUD icon (green diamond.. you can barely see it in the gfy though)- Target GPS coordinates - not really important but the targeting pod will eventually be used for gps guided bombs- Roll indicator*- Elevation angle indicator* (artificial horizon)- Target direction indicator (*last 3 things are on the bottom left)- Gimbal limits- Image filter - grayscale will be optional. It's not actual IR imaging - that would be too much shader work for me.- "CoM Lock" option, for lack of a better term - if the sensor is ground stabilized and you drag it onto a vessel, it will snap to the vessel's center of mass- video resolution adjustable via configAs for a release date - it won't come out until I finish all the other stuff like radar and IR, so 2-3 weeks, maybe.Let me know if there's any other useful info I should show on the TGP display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forty21112 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Wait, IR? Does that mean we can now put stuff above the tank guns? Or did you mean infrared?And I have a question, how will you fight aircraft with the new update and will UCAVs need them to fire weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BahamutoD Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Wait, IR? Does that mean we can now put stuff above the tank guns? Or did you mean infrared?And I have a question, how will you fight aircraft with the new update and will UCAVs need them to fire weapons?I meant infrared/heat seeking.To fight aircraft you'll need radar components and/or heat seeking components.However, there will be an option in the settings to allow the currently used vessel targeting.PS:Does anyone know why this is happening to the model in the part catalog?I haven't run into this before... It doesn't grow, so its not the resource/module thing. It seems to be focused on one of the transforms in camera swiveling area instead of the root transform, and it rotates around it when you mouse-over. Edited July 17, 2015 by BahamutoD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I meant infrared/heat seeking.To fight aircraft you'll need radar components and/or heat seeking components.However, there will be an option in the settings to allow the currently used vessel targeting.PS:Does anyone know why this is happening to the model in the part catalog?http://i.imgur.com/WHzfebq.pngI haven't run into this before... It doesn't grow, so its not the resource/module thing. It seems to be focused on one of the transforms in camera swiveling area instead of the root transform, and it rotates around it when you mouse-over.How is this radar targeting going to work?Would be interesting if at least the size of the target mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BahamutoD Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 How is this radar targeting going to work?Would be interesting if at least the size of the target mattered.I'll have to try a few things out and weigh a few options, but I do want size to have some impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepSlayLP Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 The targetting pod looks really amazing. Good work there.The scaling have I seen in a couple mods so far, but I think it's not really that annoying. But maybe try scaling the image down a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetryds Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'll have to try a few things out and weigh a few options, but I do want size to have some impact.It would be interesting if the layout mattered, like pointy parts, sharp angles and big cross-section, as well as how the radar signal bounces back.You could use some raycasting for deflection, and other stuff, as I said before, if you need something just pm me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8jester Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I meant infrared/heat seeking.To fight aircraft you'll need radar components and/or heat seeking components.However, there will be an option in the settings to allow the currently used vessel targeting.PS:Does anyone know why this is happening to the model in the part catalog?http://i.imgur.com/WHzfebq.pngI haven't run into this before... It doesn't grow, so its not the resource/module thing. It seems to be focused on one of the transforms in camera swiveling area instead of the root transform, and it rotates around it when you mouse-over.Hey Lo-fi had the icon size issue on KF. And I know there was a fix made for that by another user. But from what it sounded like the upcoming version may have that fixed. (Don't quote me on this one, I recall that being the case but could be wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anister Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'll have to try a few things out and weigh a few options, but I do want size to have some impact.Perhaps a RPM screen that acts like a scope, with colors designating FoF (Red = Enemy, Green = Ally, Blue = No IFF) and rough, vessel view like shapes showing how big they are. Outside, you see a large indicator on any detected craft.What realy would be awesome is a AWACS style radar dish, with huge range. Also interesting to have would be radar detectors, that designate detected radar emitters and if they can track you, and the option to share data to other craft. That way a single AWACS can guide fighters to a intercept, or guide SAM or even SSM sites to targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratboyslim Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 will the radar/heat seeking components be released in the next update? or is this to be implemented in the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Boy Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 5000 Km = A really long way- - - Updated - - -Hey you could almost fit two skewers in there. Looks good, also looks like you figured out the back support as well, it's not hanging down at all. Nice! Did you figure out how to set it to stop at intervals? You need to start with the first position set at -180 and the last is 180 and anything in between. Thats how I setup my B2 so I could just press an action group to advance the rotor.And I hope I'm not being a yutz here but. Another idea for a bomb bay at 1:30 I just set hotkeys to rotate the skewer back and forth. Setting positions is a bit weird because the launch order is messed up with missiles.Thus far I've built a very nice fighter that's excessively maneuverable and flies at very low speeds. Looks very futuristic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8jester Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) I just set hotkeys to rotate the skewer back and forth. Setting positions is a bit weird because the launch order is messed up with missiles.Thus far I've built a very nice fighter that's excessively maneuverable and flies at very low speeds. Looks very futuristic.The launch order of bombs and missiles can be manipulated. Think first in first out. For instance my B-2 had numerous bombs and missiles inside. But the first bombs dropped the mk-82's. Where the first bombs placed in the whole thing. Or the cruise missiles which were side by side. Again the first one fired was the first one placed. The other thing about the Skewer in the B-2 is each of the bomb standoffs where place individually by first. Building the skewer, then setting no limits on the Rotatron or the Uncontrolled Rotatron, but setting presets at 60 degree intervals from -180 to 180. Then cycle between the presets one at a time placing a payload of your choice with the angle snap tool on, from your start position to the final payload. Then in flight it will fallow the same sequence. So set your weapon manager on the first payload and it will automatically cycle to the next when you run out of bombs / missiles in that slot.If you want a symmetrical payload of bombs or missiles this is far simpler. Just setup the skewer as stated above. Then simply place one bomb standoff with a payload of your choosing, under the skewer with radial symmetry turned on and 6 of them mirrored around the skewer. That's how my first B-2 with 6 cruise missiles was built. So the "first" one placed will be the "first" to fire. This would be the one exposed when the bay is open. Then between BD's bomb clearance check and the rotation of the skewer it works like a charm. If the firing order is reversed from the rotation of the skewer just invert your action group advance / return buttons and cycle it in the opposite direction.On a side note, if you want to post pictures and info about your plane you are working on. My advanced aircraft thread linked in my signature could benefit from your input. Besides it would be better to talk about this kind of stuff over there. Edited July 17, 2015 by V8jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8jester Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) will the radar/heat seeking components be released in the next update? or is this to be implemented in the future I think BD answered this on the last page. I've been working hard on the targeting pod display.http://gfycat.com/IncredibleBigheartedFantail (cut and sped up to fit the 15sec gfy limit) Some thing's I've added so far: - Resizeable window - "Slave Turret" button - makes your active turrets point at the target. - Target position HUD icon (green diamond.. you can barely see it in the gfy though) - Target GPS coordinates - not really important but the targeting pod will eventually be used for gps guided bombs - Roll indicator* - Elevation angle indicator* (artificial horizon) - Target direction indicator (*last 3 things are on the bottom left) - Gimbal limits - Image filter - grayscale will be optional. It's not actual IR imaging - that would be too much shader work for me. - "CoM Lock" option, for lack of a better term - if the sensor is ground stabilized and you drag it onto a vessel, it will snap to the vessel's center of mass - video resolution adjustable via config As for a release date - it won't come out until I finish all the other stuff like radar and IR, so 2-3 weeks, maybe. Let me know if there's any other useful info I should show on the TGP display. And on that note, BD That looks fantastic! I can't wait to see the finished product. I really like the idea of a COM lock as well as the ability to control the turrets. That never occurred to me. Edited July 17, 2015 by V8jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Boy Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Will there only be radar/laser/heat seeking components to the new update or will there be some more modular parts (weapons) and AI improvements as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasoundofdapolice Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) Hey guys, I'm having problems with BD Armory and I can't find a solution in the various posts so if this has been covered, sorry. I installed the latest version, I had no previous versions so I haven't made any mistakes with the installation as far as I can tell. The BD Armory folder that was in the gamedata folder in the zip file is in the gamedata folder of the game directory.Anyway, the problem is that all the parts appear but their functions don't. The turrets and the weapon manager are unclickable in flight, in the SPH I can select them for action groups but I just get the name of the part in the selection menu, no actions to swap over to the action button. Also, clicking in flight doesn't fire the weapon (obviously since the weapon isn't activated).Any ideas? Thanking you in advance.Hey guys, I'm having problems with BD Armory and I can't find a solution in the various posts so if this has been covered, sorry. I installed the latest version, I had no previous versions so I haven't made any mistakes with the installation as far as I can tell. The BD Armory folder that was in the gamedata folder in the zip file is in the gamedata folder of the game directory.Anyway, the problem is that all the parts appear but their functions don't. The turrets and the weapon manager are unclickable in flight, in the SPH I can select them for action groups but I just get the name of the part in the selection menu, no actions to swap over to the action button. Also, clicking in flight doesn't fire the weapon (obviously since the weapon isn't activated).Any ideas? Thanking you in advance.Is there some way to attach the output_log to this? Or should I just paste the whole thing? It's pretty long.EDIT: https://www.dropbox.com/s/skokx5am6ieojxe/output_log.txt?dl=0 <--- my output log Edited July 17, 2015 by dasoundofdapolice Added a link to my outut log. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anister Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Hey there, and welcome to the forums! You might want to attach the log file. Perhaps you can store it on dropbox and then link it here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) <snip> https://www.dropbox.com/s/skokx5am6ieojxe/output_log.txt?dl=0 <--- my output logWelcome to the forums! At a quick glance it looks like there's a conflict between BDA and one of the mods or it could be something is up with modulemanager if you removed a mod. I would recommend a second KSP install if you can (don't delete your original KSP) and add BDA only - this is to check that BDA will work on your machine. Then add mods 2 at a time until it doesn't work; once you've got the problem again, delete 1 of the two mods you just added to see which one is causing the conflict: if it works, then you know that the mod you removed is the culprit; if it doesn't then you know that the mod you kept is causing the problems. Edited July 17, 2015 by Scoundrel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasoundofdapolice Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Thank you! I'll start that process and see how it goes. If it's not a lot of trouble, can you point out which part of the output log gave you that information and how you could tell? I'd like to start learning a bit about this kind of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thatdude253 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I am so excited for this next update. This looks amazing and seems like it will completely revolutionize this mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BahamutoD Posted July 17, 2015 Author Share Posted July 17, 2015 Heyy, I actually got night vision working!In case you're interested, before each time the TGP camera renders, it sets the global ambient light to the full brightness, then it renders the image, and returns it to the original brightness so its normal for the regular flight camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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