Make separators useful!

[NWM]

Separators releases both sides, but creates fairings and physical connection only to the upper side, instead of both.

Why do we would use separator instead of decoupler?

example (vertical built):

2.5m lander an 1.25m docking port on the top

"poodle" engine

2,5m separator

1,25m docking port

Command Module

Inter-celestial Rocket

Launch Vehicle

It is a functional replica of the Apollos, but it is a fragile and ugly something in KSP

The separators should create procedural fairings to the next same sized part in both direction!

[prophet_01]

Yep they don't work for those things. But i dont see the problem with the seperatrons but with the adapters available and of course the regular 2.5 m decoupler is a giant monstrosity when it comes to small upper stages :/ i usually use decouplers and an adapter although it's massive.

I've encountered similar issues myself when designing apollo like stuff... I would rather prefer a much smaller and in excha1.25 to 2.5 adapter than a specialized 1.25 to 2.5 seperatron.

One of the reasons I'm fan of b9. It has the right part for that niche

Edited September 24, 2014 by prophet_01

[Superfluous J]

I use separators when I'm dropping a base on a world with a ship that I'm going to be using elsewhere. That way the base AND the ship can be free of the extra part once I'm done with it. If I'd used a decoupler, one of them would be stuck with it.

Other than that I don't know when you'd use one.

[Starwaster]

Separators releases both sides, but creates fairings and physical connection only to the upper side, instead of both.

Why do we would use separator instead of decoupler?

example (vertical built):

2.5m lander an 1.25m docking port on the top

"poodle" engine

2,5m separator

1,25m docking port

Command Module

Inter-celestial Rocket

Launch Vehicle

It is a functional replica of the Apollos, but it is a fragile and ugly something in KSP

The separators should create procedural fairings to the next same sized part in both direction!

No offense but you're just trying to use them in a way they weren't intended and there's a misconception at work about how they function.

Separators don't create fairings at all. That's something that is built into engines. Anytime you attach something to the bottom node of an engine that supports fairings (some don't) then a fairing is created. This has nothing to do with the separator or decouplers. You could attach a fuel tank to the bottom of a "poodle" and a fairing is created.

As for physical connections... not sure I understand where this is coming from. Physical connections are created with everything that is attached to something else. This too is not function of a separator. The only thing I can think that you might be referring to is that in your example above, you're connecting the 2.5m separator to a 1.25m docking port and finding it wobbly.

If that is the case, then the problem is because you connected a 2.5m part to a 1.25m docking port.

If you're trying to recreate Apollo then what you need is not modifications to the separators. What you need is a part like KWR's 'petal' fairing or Procedural Fairings, which have special parts that let you attach something like a lander to a fairing base while the CSM would connect to the top of the fairings. (really it attaches to a second top node that the fairing base has and which separates when the fairings separate)

[NWM]

Thanks, I know how the default fairing works, a I know some mods too.

I' just want to say: make the separators work as real: base of in-line holders and fairings.