[1.0.4] Endurance (from Interstellar) [DISCONTINUED]

[Shryq]

Will the landing gear and updated engines come out next update?

That depends how you guys want them to come out. I can do smaller ones every-time I update anything significant, or I can wait till I have a lot.

STRAWPOLL: Tell me what you guys would like first. I have a limited amount time to spend on this, and I would like to get what you guys want to you first, because I'm not sure how long it's going to take me to complete. VTOL engines and Landing Gear are my priority right now, so that we can have a properly functioning ranger, but everything is up for debate.

http://strawpoll.me/3616408

I also highly encourage Kerbal Join Reinforcement for everyone, not just those using this mod. No more spaghetti rockets.

Edited February 11, 2015 by Shryq

[KrizzGaming]

you should try Hullcam

Well the reason I dont use this because I can't deactivate the camera

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That depends how you guys want them to come out. I can do smaller ones every-time I update anything significant, or I can wait till I have a lot.

STRAWPOLL: Tell me what you guys would like first. I have a limited amount time to spend on this, and I would like to get what you guys want to you first, because I'm not sure how long it's going to take me to complete. VTOL engines and Landing Gear are my priority right now, so that we can have a properly functioning ranger, but everything is up for debate.

http://strawpoll.me/3616408

I also highly encourage Kerbal Join Reinforcement for everyone, not just those using this mod. No more spaghetti rockets.

You should finish finish the landing gear before doing anything else on the ranger.

But always the IRL stuff first!

[L4rg3Singularity]

That depends how you guys want them to come out. I can do smaller ones every-time I update anything significant, or I can wait till I have a lot.

STRAWPOLL: Tell me what you guys would like first. I have a limited amount time to spend on this, and I would like to get what you guys want to you first, because I'm not sure how long it's going to take me to complete. VTOL engines and Landing Gear are my priority right now, so that we can have a properly functioning ranger, but everything is up for debate.

http://strawpoll.me/3616408

I also highly encourage Kerbal Join Reinforcement for everyone, not just those using this mod. No more spaghetti rockets.

We can wait with the stock landing gear so I guess you should carry on with the VTOL m90. Or the landing gear.

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Well the reason I dont use this because I can't deactivate the camera

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You should finish finish the landing gear before doing anything else on the ranger.

But always the IRL stuff first!

Do the detach scene when the mod is complete k? Because right now the ranger is barely flyable and the lander has a torque thingy. You also need the iva to be complete too just wait for this mod to finish before doing an intense scene from interstellar.

[KrizzGaming]

We can wait with the stock landing gear so I guess you should carry on with the VTOL m90. Or the landing gear.

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Do the detach scene when the mod is complete k? Because right now the ranger is barely flyable and the lander has a torque thingy. You also need the iva to be complete too just wait for this mod to finish before doing an intense scene from interstellar.

Well what I'm saying is I just need help deactivating my cam.

I used the mod when you told me about it.

That intense scene only takes me 30 minutes to dock and 3 seconds to go to the sun with the help of hyper-edit.

[xxhansonmaxx]

just press backspace...

[KrizzGaming]

just press backspace...

Thanks for the help!

Man I'm dumb these days.

[Eanikran]

My Ranger launch setup:

^ a close look at the mounting. I'm using the Lander's lift engines as VTOLs for now.

^ the dock port from the ASET rover looks awesome on it

[RamirezCorp]

Did you get the second one I posted? 0.0.2? I scaled the ranger down to 80% of the original, and fixed a few other things.

Also, making progress:

http://imgur.com/a/2kWwd

But now there are some other weird glitchy things I need to fix.

My "help wanted" thread: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/110128-Help-I-cannot-get-my-landing-legs-to-work

Shryq you think you could add a few more units of monopropellant because i try to be as efficient as i can to dock with but its just not enough? at least 120 or 100 U/

[Shryq]

Shryq you think you could add a few more units of monopropellant because i try to be as efficient as i can to dock with but its just not enough? at least 120 or 100 U/

Normaly I wouldn't worry about balancing until later, but just for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49ut51xsmne6xee/ranger_body.cfg?dl=0

:3 It goes in GameData/Shryq/Parts/rangerbuild_0.0.2/body

For future reference, any single parameter can be changed really easily in the .cfg file. Engine thrust, ISP, monoprop, LF, OX, you name it.

This is what monoprop looks like in the config. Max is obviously the max, the amount it what it defaults to when you take it out of the parts list.

RESOURCE

{

name = MonoPropellant

amount = 120

maxAmount = 120

}

[RamirezCorp]

Normaly I wouldn't worry about balancing until later, but just for you: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49ut51xsmne6xee/ranger_body.cfg?dl=0

:3 It goes in GameData/Shryq/Parts/rangerbuild_0.0.2/body

For future reference, any single parameter can be changed really easily in the .cfg file. Engine thrust, ISP, monoprop, LF, OX, you name it.

This is what monoprop looks like in the config. Max is obviously the max, the amount it what it defaults to when you take it out of the parts list.

RESOURCE

{

name = MonoPropellant

amount = 120

maxAmount = 120

}

THX Shryq and one more quick question, when will the next update coming up for the ranger?

[L4rg3Singularity]

My Ranger launch setup:

http://i.imgur.com/GOmn7qV.png

http://i.imgur.com/OUNvnZu.png

http://i.imgur.com/PnFLTSU.png

^ a close look at the mounting. I'm using the Lander's lift engines as VTOLs for now.

http://i.imgur.com/6jlCbWv.png

^ the dock port from the ASET rover looks awesome on it

http://i.imgur.com/tbikytu.png

Can I have your craft file for the rangers with VTOL? I couldn't attach the lander's VTOL to the ranger for some reason.

[L4rg3Singularity]

If anybody needs a craft file for the ranger because they don't know how to build a ranger here ya go.

press 2 to toggle the vtol engines and press 1 to activate the main engines. It's using the stock landing gear so yeah.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kxgn7k0ugbxtfba/Ranger.craft?dl=0

[Shryq]

THX Shryq and one more quick question, when will the next update coming up for the ranger?

Next couple of day hopefully. Last few day's I've been studying for an exam, but I should have a good amount of time to work on it this evening and through the weekend.

EDIT: Does the ranger look a little big yet to anyone else? Looks to me like they could lose another 10%, and move the dock closer by about .5m each.

Maybe not though.

Can someone get me two quick screenshots of the complete endurance?

One from an angle like this: http://i.imgur.com/AAAmrKx.jpg Over one of the front corners of the ranger.

And then one straight head on, like along the axis of rotation of the endurance.

Edited February 12, 2015 by Shryq

[benjee10]

I think it could do with being just a touch smaller yeah. Not sure if that'll mess with the IVA though. Really enjoying flying about with the Ranger though Shryq! Do you think you could increase the generator rate and also the rate at which electric charge is consumed by the engines? At the moment I think the charge runs out at about the right point but it takes a painfully long time to wait for it to recharge. I agree that getting to orbit should still be challenging (I'll be changing the resource rates on the Lander to balance that out a bit more) but it's just a bit frustrating at the moment!

I should be a little less busy this couple of days so I'll tweak the position of the Ranger attach ports on the Endurance as well as making them line up properly! Am I right in saying that in the movie the Rangers are actually slightly angled towards each other rather than being straight on?

Also, would people want there to be solid parts between the angled corridor pieces of the endurance? It would allow more configurations I think. Stuff like this:

Edited February 12, 2015 by benjee10

[Caullerd]

In my humble opinion, right now ranger looks even a bit more massive than lander, though lander actually must be a lot bigger...That picture in benjee's post shows a nice reference.

[Shryq]

I think it could do with being just a touch smaller yeah. Not sure if that'll mess with the IVA though. Really enjoying flying about with the Ranger though Shryq! Do you think you could increase the generator rate and also the rate at which electric charge is consumed by the engines? At the moment I think the charge runs out at about the right point but it takes a painfully long time to wait for it to recharge. I agree that getting to orbit should still be challenging (I'll be changing the resource rates on the Lander to balance that out a bit more) but it's just a bit frustrating at the moment!

I should be a little less busy this couple of days so I'll tweak the position of the Ranger attach ports on the Endurance as well as making them line up properly! Am I right in saying that in the movie the Rangers are actually slightly angled towards each other rather than being straight on?

Also, would people want there to be solid parts between the angled corridor pieces of the endurance? It would allow more configurations I think. Stuff like this:

https://thenerdnebula.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ship.jpg

o: How does that Endurance fly with no command module?

It looks to me that the rear sides of the wing are supposed to nuzzle in next to the 'mandibles' on the Lander. In the movie they look pretty damn cozy in there. If I shrink the Ranger a bit more and the docking port is moved down and back ~0.5m each, it should fit nicely. http://www.espalhafactos.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/interstellar.jpg I that picture you can see what I'm talking about. The docking ports look much closer to the main tube (the one that connects the docking to the rest of the Endurance) from front to back.

Right. We can do that. Like I said, balancing is pretty easy, at least as far as modifying the actual values. I shouldn't bother the IVA much, if at all, I believe that the model of the part containing the IVA is not rendered when in IVA. This is why you can see through the rangers windows in IVA, but not in external view. The IVA might even scale with the part size. Never even thought to look for that.

You are right about the angle of the rangers, they are angled towards each other slightly. It looks like the bottom of the noses are parallel, so like, ~10 degrees?

IMO making a complete ring would be a better idea, would allow people to make their own modules potentially, which could be really cool.

Edited February 12, 2015 by Shryq

[L4rg3Singularity]

I think it could do with being just a touch smaller yeah. Not sure if that'll mess with the IVA though. Really enjoying flying about with the Ranger though Shryq! Do you think you could increase the generator rate and also the rate at which electric charge is consumed by the engines? At the moment I think the charge runs out at about the right point but it takes a painfully long time to wait for it to recharge. I agree that getting to orbit should still be challenging (I'll be changing the resource rates on the Lander to balance that out a bit more) but it's just a bit frustrating at the moment!

I should be a little less busy this couple of days so I'll tweak the position of the Ranger attach ports on the Endurance as well as making them line up properly! Am I right in saying that in the movie the Rangers are actually slightly angled towards each other rather than being straight on?

Also, would people want there to be solid parts between the angled corridor pieces of the endurance? It would allow more configurations I think. Stuff like this:

https://thenerdnebula.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/ship.jpg

The ranger was able to push into orbit in millers planet which is 130% earth gravity. Earth gravity is way stronger than kerbin's influence. So I guess you shouldn't tweak the engines. I mean cmon! I enjoyed blasting through a few km per second with this thing in duna!

[Shryq]

The ranger was able to push into orbit in millers planet which is 130% earth gravity. Earth gravity is way stronger than kerbin's influence. So I guess you shouldn't tweak the engines. I mean cmon! I enjoyed blasting through a few km per second with this thing in duna!

My thinking was to give it enough dV to de-orbit, land, take back off and get back in to orbit with a bit of fuel to spare. Eve has the heaviest gravity/thickest atmosphere, so that's the benchmark I guess. Plus you should be able to refill the ranger from the Endurance right?

Just got an idea, nothing new but struck me as cool. If we make it so the crates from the endurance can be set up as an MKS style base, you'd be able to refine fuel and explore the planet indefinitely, shuttle supplies back up the Endurance etc.

Edited February 13, 2015 by Shryq

[xxhansonmaxx]

Shryq here u go!

the other one: http://i.imgur.com/dVBdIeO.jpg

[Contingency]

Does the ranger look a little big yet to anyone else? Looks to me like they could lose another 10%, and move the dock closer by about .5m each.

Maybe not though.

If the Ranger shrinks another 10%, won't the docking port be too big for it?

[L4rg3Singularity]

My thinking was to give it enough dV to de-orbit, land, take back off and get back in to orbit with a bit of fuel to spare. Eve has the heaviest gravity/thickest atmosphere, so that's the benchmark I guess. Plus you should be able to refill the ranger from the Endurance right?

Just got an idea, nothing new but struck me as cool. If we make it so the crates from the endurance can be set up as an MKS style base, you'd be able to refine fuel and explore the planet indefinitely, shuttle supplies back up the Endurance etc.

What are you planning for the next update?

[Shryq]

What are you planning for the next update?

Very soon friend. Very soon. I just need to figure out how to keep the landing gear from vibrating, and it should be smooth sailing from there to next release. So once I figure out the vibration, I estimate another 3-5 hours of work if things go well. Hopefully tomorrow or Saturday.

EDIT: Uh. I just realized I read that wrong. "What?" not "When?" Landing gear and VTOL engines for next release. And probably a wee bit of balancing.

If the Ranger shrinks another 10%, won't the docking port be too big for it?

Nope. If you use local offset and move the docking port down into the ranger, so that only the actual docking ring sticks out it should be fine. And if it becomes a problem, I can make my own.

@ xxhansonmaxx: Thank you!

Edited February 13, 2015 by Shryq

[L4rg3Singularity]

Ermahgerd. I cant wait!!!!

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I want that build ;_;

[Shryq]

Ermahgerd. I cant wait!!!!

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I want that build ;_;

Figured out the vibration :3 now I just need to keep the gear from falling through the ground and/or spawning under said ground. Also sleep, could possibly need that.

Post-sleep EDIT: Looks like Mod compatability is up next, and after that the IVA/ Model update. I'm thinking I'll just do the IVA first, then do the RCS and the control surface when I do the model update.

Few questions for you guys:

Does anyone care if the RCS isn't exactly like in the movie? The angle are odd and make balancing it hard, I was thinking of aiming the ports as close to cardinal directions as I could. Should be a pretty subtle change.

The other was about the IVA, In the movie, the seats lift upwards towards the windows for better visibility. I was thinking about moving the pilot seat up into that position, and leaving the co-pilot in the default one, just for some variety.

Edited February 13, 2015 by Shryq

[S1000RRHP4]

Great work and get some sleep, we still need you alive^^